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It was acknowledged from the outset that some of the data might not hold up, because papers were deliberately selected that described something completely new, such as fresh approaches to targeting cancers or alternative clinical uses for existing therapeutics. Nevertheless, scientific findings were confirmed in onl 10:23 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:29 <@kanzure> cutoff at "findings were confirmed in onl" 10:32 < ParahSailin> wow, i thought irssi wasnt completely retarded 10:32 < ParahSailin> only 6 (11%) cases.' 10:32 <@kanzure> you have to install an irssi script to fix that situation 10:51 <@kanzure> just some more people worth stalking: 10:51 <@kanzure> http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682017/this-years-thiel-fellows-include-a-fashion-designer-a-poet-and-a-harvard-dropout 10:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-134-41-88.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:07 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:31 < ParahSailin> .title http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-most-profitable-mobile-operating-system-android-7000015094/ 11:31 < yoleaux> Microsoft's most profitable mobile operating system: Android | ZDNet 11:46 < ParahSailin> anyone have interest in a data dump of 300k name, address, phone number, and credit score? 11:46 < ParahSailin> its data that equifax sold some company 11:51 <@kanzure> another secret group (ugh, why can't they just stay in one place) https://groups.google.com/group/diybio-idealab 12:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 <@kanzure> hmm http://fixthedmca.org/unlocking-technology-act.html " It amends Section 1201 to make it clear that it is completely legal to "circumvent" if there is no copyright infringement. It legalizes tools and services that enable circumvention as long as they are intended for non-infringing uses. It changes Copyright Law to specify that unlocking cell phones is not copyright infringement." 12:12 <@kanzure> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3155588/Unlocking%20Technology%20Act.pdf 12:13 <@kanzure> saurik's logo is on that page, heh 12:13 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:21 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:31 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-53-129-61.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:25 < eudoxia> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/09/state-department-demands-takedown-of-3d-printable-gun-for-possible-export-control-violation/ 13:25 < eudoxia> .title 13:26 < yoleaux> State Department Demands Takedown Of 3D-Printable Gun Files For Possible Export Control Violations - Forbes 13:26 < eudoxia> "The government says it wants to review the files for compliance with arms export control laws known as the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, or ITAR." 13:26 < eudoxia> i so fucking called it 13:26 < eudoxia> i wish i had a twitter account to dump my irrelevant thoughts into so i could prove it tho 13:27 <@kanzure> what's important about "calling it" in this case? 13:27 < eudoxia> http://defcad.org/ 13:27 < eudoxia> .title 13:27 < yoleaux> DEFCAD 13:27 <@kanzure> yes we know the title of that page is DEFCAD 13:27 < eudoxia> huh how weird it gave me a 503 13:27 <@kanzure> but what does it matter? there's a backup of their zip file floating around the net. what else did they do? 13:28 < ParahSailin> they got an ffl i think 13:28 < eudoxia> well yeah there's still the torrents on TPB and duce's github repo 13:28 < eudoxia> https://github.com/maduce/defcad-repo 13:29 < eudoxia> but still it's a pretty big deal that they are being taken down and it's not april's fools this time 13:30 < ParahSailin> is defcad different from defense distributed? 13:31 < eudoxia> defcad is defdist's repo and soon to be 3dp search engine 13:32 <@kanzure> "soon to be" "3dp search engine" ugh 13:32 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:32 < eudoxia> oh kanz it's just a search engine it's not like they are promising eternal youth 13:33 < eudoxia> how much could they fuck it up? 13:33 <@kanzure> i don't understand why they need to make a search engine 13:34 <@kanzure> do you really think that a bunch of people that put .zip files into a git repository have the technical chops to make a legitimate search engine? they should just use lucene or solr or something. 13:34 < klafka> kanzure: has anyone made a generative art program for 3d printers ? 13:34 <@kanzure> probably. i wrote one at some point. 13:34 < klafka> oh they're rolling their own search engine, lol 13:34 < klafka> i'm thinking of making one 13:34 < klafka> did you use people as the fitness function? 13:34 <@kanzure> mine was based on some basic shapes from pythonocc, i think. and skdb. part interfaces connecting. something. 13:35 <@kanzure> i had no fitness function, i just wanted not-completely-intersecting shapes. 13:35 < eudoxia> maybe they will use that, i don't know what they're up to 13:35 <@kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-11-02_supermetal_2.png 13:35 < klafka> ah cool 13:35 < eudoxia> althought yeah people who do 'git add ., git commit -a -m "megapack version X",git push github master' might fall short of expectations 13:37 <@kanzure> s/,/;/ maybe 13:58 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 -!- rigel [~ubuntu@ec2-54-214-81-103.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:09 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:18 <@kanzure> rigel: welcome back 14:19 < rigel> thx 14:19 < rigel> not joining was a simple oversight 14:42 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:46 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:46 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-53-129-61.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47 < ParahSailin> paperbot, next time they make me write their paper i will put an easter egg just in case they do not put my name on as an author http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0042682213001992 14:48 < ParahSailin> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0042682213001992 14:48 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Small%20RNA%20populations%20for%20two%20unrelated%20viruses%20exhibit%20different%20biases%20in%20strand%20polarity%20and%20proximity%20to%20terminal%20sequences%20in%20the%20insect%20host%20.pdf 14:49 <@kanzure> yeah, i am a little upset about two cases of that happening to me as well. 14:49 <@kanzure> it would be interesting to measure how often authors are not included 14:50 <@kanzure> you could even do verification like "yep, that person was definitely employed in that lab at the time, and social networks seem to confirm he's affiliated with some of those people, and these other pile of metrics suggest a high probability that this guy was just screwed" 14:52 < ParahSailin> i need a standard stegano watermark for all images produced by my user on matplotlib 14:53 < ParahSailin> just in case clients are ever lazy enough to use images i give them as-is 14:53 <@kanzure> hah 14:56 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.119.72] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:01 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.3.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:24 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:51 <@kanzure> sigh http://www.slashgear.com/biohacking-kickstarter-project-promises-glowing-plant-seeds-09281173/ 16:53 < ParahSail1n> fuck, 284k 16:53 <@kanzure> yep :/ 16:54 < ParahSail1n> kickstarter chicanery still below your price point? 16:54 <@kanzure> hm? 16:55 <@kanzure> i still haven't seen anyone actually demonstrate an understanding of how these are different types of "glowing" 16:56 <@kanzure> "who cares! it glows! don't hate us. we promise it is glowing." yeah but luminescence is not the same as ultraviolet response is not the same as.. etc. 16:56 < ParahSail1n> for 284k theyll have something glowing 16:57 <@kanzure> sure. 16:57 < ParahSail1n> might have to use nightvision goggles, but it will luminesce 16:57 <@kanzure> does the kickstarter page even say which type? 16:57 < ParahSail1n> lux operon... 16:58 <@kanzure> oh look, they even list out their names so we can actually hate people 16:58 <@kanzure> omri amirav-drory (who we can also hate for his bullshit marketing about his "open" "genome compiler"), antony evans, kyle taylor, patrik d'haeseleer, darius lau, rick symonds, cameron clarke, anat reichman, andreas stuermer, ariel mioduser, patrick buckley 16:59 < ParahSail1n> lets do a thc arabidopsis indiegogo 16:59 < ParahSail1n> im sure there are lots of potheads in the world 16:59 <@kanzure> i thought there was a missing piece of the pathway 16:59 < ParahSail1n> kanzure, shhh 16:59 <@kanzure> also i hear grad students proposing that all the time, there was some missing piece until recently.. 16:59 <@kanzure> by recently i mean maybe 2009 or 2010 17:00 <@kanzure> i don't see anything about any particular operon on this page or their blog 17:00 < ParahSail1n> well the species was sequenced last year so the indiegogo would at least be plausible enough to stand up to basic retard due diligence 17:00 <@kanzure> oh they are doing luciferin/luciferase? 17:01 <@kanzure> how exactly does a plant have enough metabolic energy for that one 17:02 < ParahSail1n> http://boingboing.net/2013/04/24/synthetic-biology-kickstarter.html 17:02 < ParahSail1n> sorry dont click 17:02 < ParahSail1n> google results said lux operon but that was only in comments 17:02 <@kanzure> yeah but they seem to be working off of someone's igem project, http://glowingplant.com/post/49334047062/how-bright-can-we-make-plants-glow 17:03 <@kanzure> http://2010.igem.org/Team:Cambridge 17:03 <@kanzure> "The $65k initial goal will allow us to replicate the work of the SUNY researchers, and add a luciferin recycling gene." 17:04 <@kanzure> oh god i hate this guy "But we will go one step further than this and will be sharing online all of the work we are doing - the ups as well as the downs. In fact our DNA designs are already publicly available and if you download Genome Compiler’s software you can view them. W" 17:04 <@kanzure> sigh. genome compiler is not a compiler. it's the name of a company. and the company has never built a compiler. 17:05 <@kanzure> well, at least it doesn't require ultraviolet spectrum everywhere. 17:07 < ParahSail1n> glowing rose plant... is rose even sequenced? 17:08 < ParahSail1n> "For a prototype we inserted GFP, a flouresent protein, into the plant." 17:09 <@kanzure> oh :( 17:39 < brownies> getting ever-closer to a glowing cat! 17:39 < brownies> .meow 17:39 < yoleaux> http://moar.edgecats.net/cats/anigif_enhanced-buzz-10181-1323295701-15.gif 17:41 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 < ParahSail1n> apparently musk had to ask customers to pay early payments on leases to get a 1Q positive cash flow 18:18 < klafka> oh? 18:27 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:28 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: supp 18:28 <@kanzure> we're bitching about luciferase today 18:28 < yashgaroth> I'm just catching up on the logs 18:31 < yashgaroth> even if they get the luciferin recycling enzyme won't people still need to buy luciferin to feed their plant 18:31 < ParahSail1n> pretty sure lux does not require luciferin 18:32 <@kanzure> i'm not really sure how much energy the enzyme takes, but my original guess was "a shitload" 18:32 < yashgaroth> oh they're using lux? 18:32 < ParahSail1n> unless theyre total charlatan's i'd say theyre using lux 18:33 < yashgaroth> fair point 18:33 <@kanzure> i'm confused; aren't they explicitly saying they are doing http://2010.igem.org/Team:Cambridge 18:35 < ParahSail1n> i have a feeling that theyre going to be using classical cloning methods to assemble their construct 18:35 <@kanzure> also, fireflies aren't what i remember them to be http://2010.igem.org/wiki/images/thumb/f/f2/Firefly.jpg/300px-Firefly.jpg 18:35 <@kanzure> this looks closer to what i remember catching http://2010.igem.org/wiki/images/thumb/3/32/Cambridge-Firefly_side.jpg/250px-Cambridge-Firefly_side.jpg 18:36 < yashgaroth> yeah no I think they are going for luciferase 18:36 <@kanzure> isn't plant metabolism supposed to be slow and plodding? 18:36 <@kanzure> and low energy 18:54 < Juul> i'm gonna stick some flowers in some fluorescent water 18:54 < Juul> it'll probably get better results 19:08 -!- FooQuuxman is now known as THEGREATCORNHOLI 19:09 -!- THEGREATCORNHOLI is now known as FooQuuxman 19:25 <@kanzure> Juul: lemme know how that goes. 19:25 < Juul> k 19:25 <@kanzure> science! 19:27 < Juul> http://images.cryhavok.org/d/11335-1/Dresden+Codak+-+I+Will+Do+Science.jpg 19:28 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 <@kanzure> that is approximately what i had in mind, yes 19:50 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:51 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:05 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.3.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:06 < abetusk> you think they'll be able to achieve their goal of a glowing plant? 20:07 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:08 <@kanzure> even if they are, they are terrible people for not being specific, and terrible people for supporting genome compiler, and a few other reasons :| 20:11 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:11 < abetusk> They've opened everything, or said they'll open everything. You're concerned about the lack of detail from the kickstarter page? 20:13 < ParahSail1n> theyre not supporting genome compiler, they are genome compiler 20:20 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:20 <@kanzure> oh you know, i bet it was genome compiler that dumped $10k into the project, not cambrian genomics like nmz787 theorized 20:20 < ParahSail1n> isnt genome compiler, cambrian genomics, and the names on the kickstarter all the same? 20:21 <@kanzure> cambrian genomics has no prior history of doing silly marketing stunts 20:21 <@kanzure> or lying 20:22 < ParahSail1n> prior history in how long? 20:22 <@kanzure> so i would be more willing to attribute the marketing stunt to genome compiler. who else would dump $10k so early into that kickstarter? some random user within the first 100 users that loaded the page decided to donate $10k? yeah right.. 20:22 <@kanzure> well, i've known cambrian genomics since it started i guess 20:27 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:34 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.3.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 < ParahSail1n> ah, its a bain co consultant scumbag putting this on 20:38 < ParahSail1n> yeah, doesnt surprise me at all 20:39 <@kanzure> i'm not familiar with that company. are they the mckinsey of.. whatever? 20:39 <@kanzure> oh in fact they are. okay. cool. 20:39 <@kanzure> bigger than deloitte too. 20:39 < ParahSail1n> theyre sort of like mckinsey, except mitt romney 20:40 <@kanzure> by "cool" i mean "cool that i predicted as much" not "that's a cool company" because it isn't. 20:44 < ParahSail1n> not much of a stretch to from consulting to other scams 20:48 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:51 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:28 <@kanzure> so, shodan is pretty useful.. http://www.shodanhq.com 21:28 <@kanzure> it aggregates port scans for easy searching 21:29 <@kanzure> defcad seems to have about 1k seeders at the moment, https://thepiratebay.sx/search/defcad/0/99/0 21:36 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.3.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:42 < ParahSail1n> had like 5k seeders when i dl'd 21:43 <@kanzure> hahah "ATTENTION #defcad: WE have MOVED the IRC to irc.oftc.net #defcad" 21:43 < ParahSail1n> er why not freenode 21:44 <@kanzure> freenode does not allow tor users 21:44 < ParahSail1n> ah 21:48 <@kanzure> oh man #defcad is super low quality. what is this shit.. 22:14 -!- randallagordon [~randall@75-164-203-83.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 <@kanzure> "The kickstarter funding crossed the $300k mark just now. " 22:17 <@kanzure> bleh 22:17 -!- randalla1ordon [~randall@75-164-208-152.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:21 < ParahSail1n> you sure you dont want to put on a scammy kickstarter? 22:22 <@kanzure> for the right idea, i would be willing to pay $2-$5k for a stellar video to be created 22:23 <@kanzure> kickstarter is mostly about how great you can get that video 22:23 < ParahSail1n> there are consultants who specialize in kickstarters 22:23 < ParahSail1n> i know, because the cfo of eg was talking about hiring them for the "great canine project" one 22:24 < ParahSail1n> mr bain consultant over there was surely savvy to that 22:25 < ParahSail1n> if the vc-stan set can value a company that sells 20,000 cars a year at 1/10 of ford, then anything is possible 22:26 <@kanzure> haha consultants.. that's a lie. 22:26 <@kanzure> i mean, you just have to be very anal about how you setup your kickstarter project. if you want to pay someone for that, fine. but unless they are guaranteeing you $x amount of money raised, they are full of it. 22:30 < klafka_> i was thinking of doing a kickstarter 22:32 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@node40.18.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:32 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@node40.18.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:32 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:32 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:32 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33 < ParahSail1n> well thats the first step 22:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@node44.18.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@node44.18.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 < juri_> I've been in two kickstarter videos already. i find its valuable, for getting the team together in meatspace, that's about it. 22:38 <@kanzure> being in the videos doesn't matter as much; it just has to be flashy and good production values 22:38 <@kanzure> nmz787 kinda screwed up on this front, he thought it was based on merit 22:41 < brownies> it is a meritocracy. it's just that the measure of merit is how good of a video you make ;) 22:42 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: video games] 22:46 <@kanzure> wtf there have been 4 people who donated $10k to their glowstarter 22:48 <@kanzure> cambrian genomics is claiming $0.0001/bp by 2015. 22:53 < ParahSail1n> lolk 22:57 <@kanzure> i wonder if we could get people to put money behind synthesis predictions as a way to fund better synthesis or something 22:59 < ParahSail1n> maybe bryan caplan would make such a bet 23:00 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 23:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 < ParahSail1n> oh wait, they have bitcoin prediction markets now 23:10 < klafka_> start a btc derivative market 23:10 < klafka_> to fund your project 23:10 < ParahSail1n> i dont have an identity to burn 23:12 <@kanzure> i can give you satoshi's identity 23:23 -!- helleshin [~talinck@69-61-156-24.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:31 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:39 -!- Zarakii [~devillll@ppp-46-244-172-106.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:39 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-172-106.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri May 10 00:00:22 2013