--- Log opened Wed May 15 00:00:27 2013 00:20 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:21 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:57 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- cogitokat [~cogitokat@ip70-171-26-151.ga.at.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:21 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 01:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:42 -!- kat__ [~kat@ip70-171-26-151.ga.at.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- kat__ [~kat@ip70-171-26-151.ga.at.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:49 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- cogitokat [~kat@ip70-171-26-151.ga.at.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- kmo [~kmo@apn-37-109-119-181.dynamic.lte.plus.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- kmo [~kmo@apn-37-109-119-181.dynamic.lte.plus.pl] has quit [Changing host] 02:08 -!- kmo [~kmo@unaffiliated/kmo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:37 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:42 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:15 -!- Charlie [~quassel@74.63.212.44] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:17 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:21 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-128.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:01 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:10 -!- FooQuuxman [~jrandom@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:23 -!- FooQuuxman [~jrandom@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:27 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:34 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:36 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64-13-15-38.eug.clearwire-dns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:36 < delinquentme> kanzure, you around 06:37 < kanzure> yes 06:38 < delinquentme> thoughts on armodafinil vrs regular modafinil 06:38 < kanzure> none 06:38 < delinquentme> armodafinil is the non-racemic version ... ie only the active right handed ness 07:02 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64-13-15-38.eug.clearwire-dns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:12 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.13.15.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 < kanzure> http://www.newyorker.com/strongbox/ "Strongbox is a new way for you to share information, messages, and files with our writers and editors and is designed to provide you with a greater degree of anonymity and security than afforded by conventional e-mail. To help protect your anonymity, Strongbox is only accessible using the Tor network (https://www.torproject.org). When using Strongbox, The New Yorker will not record your I.P. address or ... 07:24 < kanzure> ... information about your browser, computer, or operating system, nor will we embed third-party content or deliver cookies to your browse" 07:25 < fenn_> delinquentme: armodafinil is potentially easier to get since it's not a prescription drug, however it's less safe when taken long term (something about liver enzymes) 07:26 -!- fenn_ is now known as fenn 07:26 < fenn> whoops nevermind i was thinking adrafinil 07:33 < delinquentme> fenn, yeah armodafinil 07:33 < delinquentme> it seems like its just the right handed version 07:33 < fenn> seems armodafinil lasts slightly longer for the same dosage, but i bet it's just cephalon trying to extend the marketability of their brand, since modafinil will be going off-patent soon 07:35 -!- ielo_ [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 < kanzure> "OMICS Publishing Group in India, threatens to sue Jeffrey Beall over postings in his blog Scholarly Open Access." 07:40 < kanzure> .title http://chronicle.com/article/Publisher-Threatens-to-Sue/139243/ 07:40 < yoleaux> Publisher Threatens to Sue Blogger for $1-Billion - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education 07:41 < kanzure> "On his blog, Mr. Beall accuses OMICS of spamming scholars with invitations to publish, quickly accepting their papers, then charging them a nearly $3,000 publishing fee after a paper has been accepted." 07:41 < kanzure> "He also alleges that the publisher uses the names of scholars without their permission to entice participants to attend scientific conferences and then promotes those conferences by using names "deceptively similar" to well-known, established conferences. For example, just one hyphen separates OMICS's Entomology-2013 conference from the Entomological Society of America's Entomology 2013 conference." 07:42 < fenn> man that makes me want to go phishing for academics 07:42 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:42 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 07:43 < kanzure> http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/02/12/omics-ineptly-uses-social-media-to-promote-its-brands/ 07:43 < kanzure> http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/01/25/omics-predatory-meetings/ 07:43 < kanzure> fenn: academia is extremely easy to phish because who doesn't want to go to a specialty conference just for them? 07:43 < kanzure> plus all the old professors seem to be unaware of phishing 07:49 < kanzure> in fact, i bet you could gnab researchers as advisors to companies using this method 07:49 < kanzure> to boost credibility before you go to raise venture capital 07:49 < kanzure> "look at all these PhDs that have verified that my venture is legit" 07:49 < fenn> hehe reading the comments by krishnakumar, i move that we refer to such practices as "slutty OA journals" 07:50 < kanzure> i don't see those comemnts 07:51 < kanzure> oh i see. his comment is essentially "pick better words, you assholes". 07:51 < klafka> LOL kanzure that's a horrifically hilarious idea 07:51 < kanzure> klafka: the problem is that it would fucking work! 07:51 < klafka> yeah it totally would 07:51 < klafka> _maybe_ someone finds out 1-2 years later 07:51 < kanzure> in fact, you could even sell that evil service and be like "we connect entrepreneurs to scientific advisors" 07:52 < klafka> oh god 07:52 < kanzure> <-- evil 07:52 < delinquentme> finding a room in SF 07:53 < delinquentme> fucking dumbest shit ever 07:53 < klafka> hahahahaha 07:53 < klafka> what you don't want to pay 1500/month to share an apt with 2 peoples? 07:53 < kanzure> delinquentme: i have real estate in the family in SF down by mission/24 07:53 < klafka> *people 07:53 < klafka> snap 07:53 < delinquentme> kanzure, wha??? 07:53 * kanzure nods 07:53 < kanzure> $1500/mo for the basement room 07:53 < delinquentme> how? lol i live on mission and 19 07:53 < delinquentme> pweh! 07:53 < klafka> hahaha 07:53 < delinquentme> lol 07:53 < klafka> that seems about right :P 07:53 < kanzure> no you cant have it it's all mine mine mine 07:54 < delinquentme> its just stupid expensive for no reason 07:54 < kanzure> *can't 07:54 < klafka> it's stupid expensive because of you and me delinquentme 07:54 < kanzure> delinquentme: when i do budgeting for moving to SF i estimate about $2500/mo 07:54 < kanzure> i think $1500/mo is pretty low 07:54 < delinquentme> no fuck that 07:54 < delinquentme> 400 07:54 < delinquentme> fuck everything lol 07:54 < klafka> 1500/mo for a room is possible kanzure 07:54 < klafka> in an apt 07:54 < delinquentme> i will find a place to put a shiping container 07:54 < delinquentme> and fuck everything 07:54 < klafka> 2200/mo min for a 1 bdroom 07:54 < kanzure> klafka: yeah but let's pretend i don't want roommates 07:54 < klafka> delinquentme ... move to the east bay 07:54 < klafka> you can pay 400/mo 07:55 < delinquentme> klafka, dude i was looking at an apartment over there right? 07:55 < fenn> live in a boat 07:55 < klafka> yeah? 07:55 < delinquentme> 2 weeks later theres a shooting... 2 blocks away 07:55 < delinquentme> AT FIREMEN 07:55 < klafka> so? 07:55 < delinquentme> who the fuck shoots at firemen?! 07:55 < klafka> don't be a bitch 07:55 < delinquentme> no thats dumb to me 07:55 < delinquentme> fuck death 07:55 < delinquentme> fenn, a boat is an option 07:55 < klafka> i've never felt at all in danger in oakland 07:55 < klafka> well i've never felt in danger of my life 07:56 < klafka> my property... sure 07:56 < fenn> fwiw oakland is not homogenous 07:56 < klafka> yes also true 07:56 < klafka> i think temescal is really nice 07:56 < klafka> KONO is not bad and super cheap 07:56 < delinquentme> i just want close to the fucking bart :D 07:56 < klafka> also lake merrit and ashby area are straight up nice 07:56 < delinquentme> maybe i need to berk it 07:56 < klafka> did you look at ashby area? since it's near the ashby bart 07:56 < delinquentme> I want a 20 X 10 chunk of land 07:57 < klafka> ... 07:57 < klafka> LOL 07:57 < delinquentme> fucking shipping container 07:57 < delinquentme> call it a fucking day 07:57 < klafka> maybe you should move to dublin 07:57 < klafka> :P 07:58 < klafka> also if you want more boring suburbia have you considered daly city? 07:58 < delinquentme> fuck batches 07:58 < delinquentme> im gonna buy a shipping container and just PUT IT ON MISSION 07:58 < delinquentme> who the fuck is gonna move it?! 07:58 < klafka> idk we do have a lot of people here who work at a port 07:58 < klafka> they probably know how 07:58 < delinquentme> thats like an eloquent way to protest is it not? 07:58 < delinquentme> PRICE OF HOUSING IS TOO DAMN HIGH 07:59 < delinquentme> klafka, do you knwo people who work in the ports?!?!?! 07:59 < delinquentme> personally? 07:59 < klafka> no 07:59 < klafka> but i'm probably 1 or 2 degrees removed 07:59 < delinquentme> the thing is IDK about living out of a container right so like its sub-legal 07:59 < kanzure> .title http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/strongbox-and-aaron-swartz.html 07:59 < yoleaux> Strongbox and Aaron Swartz : The New Yorker 07:59 < delinquentme> so that whole thing you need a degree of trust 07:59 < klafka> like realistically totally not legal dude 08:00 < klafka> first off you'd be squatting unless you owned the land 08:00 < klafka> and if you did it would have to be zoned for residential use 08:00 < kanzure> "Who owned the code now? (Answer: he willed all his intellectual property to Sean Palmer, who gives the project his blessing.) " well that's convenient 08:00 < klafka> and the container wouldn't pass any sort of housing code 08:00 < kanzure> "(His friend and executor, Alec Resnick, reports that they do.)" alec is his executor? oh snap. 08:01 < kanzure> for those playing at home, alec is fenn's alter ego 08:01 < delinquentme> places have "studio" zoning 08:01 < delinquentme> whatever that means 08:01 < klafka> oh damn 08:03 < delinquentme> klafka, theres even space in the SF piers which are zoned like that 08:06 < klafka> lol :P 08:06 < delinquentme> kanzure, strongbox ... not on github? 08:06 < klafka> there is 08:06 < klafka> http://deaddrop.github.io/ 08:08 < kanzure> https://github.com/deaddrop/deaddrop/commits/master 08:08 < klafka> it is weird reading about aaron swartz i feel extremely emotional even though I didn't know him 08:08 < kanzure> i knew him, many others did too. i think it's fair. 08:25 < kanzure> science exchange sent out some spam today.. "Whole Exome Sequencing (avg price: $1,224.50 per sample)" 08:29 < ParahSailin> wtf, $.map() is actually a concatMap (?!) 08:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.13.15.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:30 < kanzure> perhaps you would prefer _.map() 08:30 < ParahSailin> what if i actually want (a -> [b]) -> [a] -> [[b]] 08:30 < ParahSailin> yeah 08:30 < kanzure> https://documentcloud.github.io/underscore/ 08:31 < kanzure> oh wtf 08:31 < ParahSailin> can i use _ on a jquery object? 08:31 < kanzure> http://documentcloud.github.io/underscore/ 08:31 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64-13-15-38.eug.clearwire-dns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 < ParahSailin> on a selector i mean? 08:31 < kanzure> no, you would have to include the underscore module first 08:31 < kanzure> i highly recommend using requirejs 08:31 < kanzure> and do something like require(["underscore", "jquery"], function() { ... your actual code .. }) 08:32 < kanzure> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10866740/loading-jquery-underscore-and-backbone-using-requirejs-2-0-1-and-shim 08:32 < kanzure> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11922747/backbone-js-underscore-js-jquery-in-requirejs-is-this-the-right-way 08:33 < ParahSailin> so instead of