--- Log opened Sun Jun 02 00:00:44 2013 00:40 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:47 -!- oblique1 [~oblique@87-150-45.netrun.cytanet.com.cy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:50 -!- oblique- [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:15 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:26 < archels> heh, this Nature paper actually references Wiener N (1949) Cybernetics 02:26 < archels> I don't suppose anyone has that lying around? 02:29 -!- cogitokat [~kat@ip70-171-6-179.ga.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 -!- WinterIsComing [~textual@pool-108-35-189-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined 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paperbot improvements? 12:59 < heath> the only way i know to improve paperbot is to find a willing participant who has access to more paywalls 13:00 < heath> and _then_ improve paperbot :) 13:03 < kanzure> there are many things to do even without more access.. :| 13:04 < kanzure> have you looked at how it uses zotero? removing the zotero dependency could clean up a lot of slop. or replacing all the other parts that aren't zotero. 13:05 < Burninate> What would you say is the academic background necessary for this community? 13:05 * Burninate is compiling lists of textbooks for to lern from 13:05 < kanzure> necessary? zilch. 13:06 < kanzure> textbooks are awful but if you insist there's http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/books 13:06 < heath> designed my first dna square yesterday :) 13:06 < heath> now to make the dna synthesizer myself or send it off to someone else 13:06 < Burninate> kanzure: Have a better option that is home-accessible? 13:06 < Burninate> moocs or lectures or something? 13:06 < kanzure> Burninate: those links should work, wtf 13:07 < Burninate> they do 0.o 13:07 < kanzure> i mean, the pdf files should be accessible to you 13:07 < Burninate> they are 13:07 < kanzure> unless we blocked you.. for no reason. i guess. 13:07 < Burninate> you said textbooks were awful 13:07 < Burninate> I'm asking for alternatives to textbooks 13:07 < kanzure> what are you doing, again? 13:08 < Burninate> dunno yet :) 13:08 < heath> Burninate: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/School:Chemistry https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/School:Biology 13:08 < heath> there's a start 13:08 < heath> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Chemistry or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Biology even 13:08 < Burninate> wondering what the next step after HS bio and 2 semesters of college chemistry is 13:09 < kanzure> depends on what you want to do, sorry. 13:09 < Burninate> organic chemistry & college bio? 13:09 < Burninate> When led you here kanzure? 13:11 < kanzure> i made this channel to work on a specific list of transhumanist technologies with other people 13:13 < kanzure> an ok summary exists here http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration but that's not a list of active projects or people working on whatever areas 13:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04 -!- kmo_ [~kmo@apn-37-247-252-163.dynamic.lte.plus.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 -!- kmo [203@unaffiliated/kmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:11 < Urchin> I do my textbook shopping over on undernet 14:11 < kanzure> library genesis seems to be more extensive. 14:14 < Urchin> I haven't used that 14:14 < Urchin> ps2 on undernet has some great stuff 14:16 < kanzure> how much? 14:20 < Urchin> how much what? 14:20 < kanzure> stuff. 14:20 < Urchin> hundreds of titles per subject 14:21 < kanzure> that seems really limited? 14:23 < Urchin> it's still a lot more than I'm willing to actually read 14:23 < kanzure> i think libgen is around 870k books 14:24 < Urchin> the advantage of that particular server is in how easy it is to find books on particular subjects, as it's all well sorted 14:36 -!- WinterIsComing [~textual@pool-108-35-189-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:41 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 14:48 < heath> i'm unsure how to transport the dna product from the microfludic chip to the synthesis area to the sequencing area 14:48 < kanzure> beads 14:48 < kanzure> bubbles 14:48 < heath> given that i figure that out, i'm unsure how to get it under an afm||stm 14:49 < kanzure> stm sequencing of dna is overkill 14:49 < heath> not for sequencing, i just want to verify i have a little boxes floating around 14:49 < heath> s/a// 14:50 < heath> might want to make the shape more distinct... 14:50 < Urchin> open air stm? 14:51 < heath> preferably 14:51 < kanzure> also if you feel like copying cambrian genomics then you can also choose laser propulsion of dna-bound beads 15:04 < Urchin> heath: isn't that too unreliable? 15:05 < kanzure> at this point you can be confident about dna folding results for simple topologies just given information about whether or not the dna was properly synthesized. 15:05 < kanzure> so i assumed sequencing 15:09 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19 < heath> guess i should make a relatively complex structure than 15:19 < heath> then* 15:31 -!- AshleyWaffle [~quassel@63-228-107-211.tukw.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:31 -!- AshleyWaffle [~quassel@63-228-107-211.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:31 -!- AshleyWaffle [~quassel@unaffiliated/anastasiawyatt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:45 < heath> oh, i want the splotbot 15:53 -!- ielo [~ielo@184.88.56.168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:53 < ielo> hi 15:54 < heath> hi ielo 15:54 < ielo> how are you 16:10 -!- WinterIsComing [~textual@pool-108-35-189-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:18 < heath> doing good ielo 16:18 < heath> haven't seen you before 16:18 < heath> is this your first time here? 16:19 < kanzure> no, he was spamming a few years ago and i discussed this problem with him on 2013-05-08 16:19 < kanzure> i think it was 2011-06-25 16:20 < ielo> haha 16:23 < ielo> kanzure, why do you remember that 16:29 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:35 -!- WinterIsComing [~textual@pool-108-35-189-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:38 -!- ielo [~ielo@184.88.56.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:46 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@pool-108-36-7-171.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:46 -!- augur [~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 < heath> curious to know how these teams changed the wiki so dramatically 16:58 < heath> http://2012.igem.org/Team:Calgary/Team 16:58 < heath> http://2012.igem.org/Team:Cornell 16:58 < heath> http://2012.igem.org/Team:Peking 16:58 < heath> cornell was able to remove the "history, login, view source" links 16:59 < heath> guessing it's a newer version of mediawiki 17:01 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 < kanzure> heath: randy rettberg did a lot of custom work on it 17:02 -!- Urchin [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: bye] 17:03 < heath> Cornell's page is clearly using Foundation 17:10 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:15 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:18 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs7hu9Sv1Q#t=12m "the computers are ready" 17:19 < heath> Ido Bachelet: How will nanobots change medicine? TEDMed Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5KLTonB3Pg 17:20 < kanzure> i suspect freitas' book would be more thorough 17:20 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@69-61-156-24.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:20 < heath> he gives thanks to drexler, freitas, and kurzweil at the beginning 17:20 < kanzure> why would that matter ? 17:21 < heath> as well as seeman and rothemund, dunno, just mentioning it 17:21 < kanzure> these are names that anyone would mention, though. 17:21 < kanzure> i met ned once. confused him for a unix greybeard. good times. 17:22 < heath> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=O5f9jgtCvQo#t=442s :: animation from nanoengineer? 17:23 -!- helleshin [~talinck@69-61-156-24.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:23 < kanzure> it's probably https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/blob/master/cad/partlib/gears/Differential%20Gear%20Box.mmp 17:24 < kanzure> i forget which file it's in 17:27 < heath> paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6109/932.abstract 17:27 < paperbot> SSLError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:504: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 632, in send) 17:34 -!- augur [~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 < kanzure> huh i don't remember tor having a gui manager tool thing, https://www.torproject.org/projects/vidalia 17:48 < heath> it's been around a long time 17:48 < heath> first time i ever used tor was through vidalia 18:03 -!- WinterIsComing [~textual@pool-108-35-189-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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