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08:25 <@kanzure> eleitl: yes?
08:25 <@kanzure> fenn: because i asked him to
08:33 < ryankarason> HELLO ALL.
08:33 <@kanzure> HELLO REJECTED.
08:34 < ryankarason> :(
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10:16 < smoosht> http://openwetware.org/wiki/Main_Page
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10:38 <@kanzure> smoosht: welcome to like 8 years ago. but they fired bill and now nobody is taking care of it.
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11:03 < smoosht> ah you know these dudes
11:03 < smoosht> personally id like to program a bacteria to produce carbon nanotubes
11:04 < smoosht> and then later on, produce them by taking carbon directly out of the air
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11:07 <@kanzure> smoosht: unlikely. the closest you will probably get is yeast expression of dna origami templates for carbon nanotube assembly.
11:07 <@kanzure> smoosht: also, you shouldn't believe all the hype. it's not exactly like programming..
11:21 < archels> yeah, what's with people trying to make a Turing machine out of a cell?
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11:22 <@kanzure> archels: marketing/news
11:27 < smoosht> of course
11:28 < smoosht> So perhaps the lesson to be learned is that synthetic biology is at the 'yeast stage' of programming.   The methods would not be applicable to plant life for instance with multiple cells and tissues
11:28 <@kanzure> uh.. no.
11:29 <@kanzure> if you have modified genomic dna then the other cells that replicate from it will also inherit that genome
11:29 <@kanzure> so it doesn't matter how many cells there are, really
11:29 <@kanzure> i don't see your point
11:31 < smoosht> seems like there are cell types in a plant
11:32 <@kanzure> are you a biologist?
11:32 <@kanzure> what is your background
11:33 < smoosht> im not a biologist
11:34 < chris_99> anyone know if LiAc is easy to obtain?
11:34 < chris_99> or are there some kind of restrictions because of the lithium
11:37 <@kanzure> smoosht: i suggest learning about biology things
11:37 <@kanzure> smoosht: it is helpful to understand how cells work before spinning your wheels aimlessly
11:37 < smoosht> yeast does not have cell types is what i meant
11:37 <@kanzure> so what?
11:38 < smoosht> yeast divides and its life cycle is complete
11:38 <@kanzure> i mentioned yeast because it's a common chasis for dna output
11:38 <@kanzure> because i mentioned dna production to you
11:38 <@kanzure> because they aren't going to be building carbon nanotubes
11:38 <@kanzure> but you can maaaaaybe get them to build origami scaffolds to build nanotubes. but still.. you wouldn't want to do that in plant cells. you would probably have a cell culture that is specifically built for amplifying/replicating dna.
11:38 <@kanzure> you don't *want* multiple cell types in this context
11:40 < smoosht> well i know that even grasses are capable of synthesizing cellulose.  It seems like that portion could be modified to build a nanotube
11:40 <@kanzure> i'm not aware of any metabolic pathway that builds nanotubes
11:41 <@kanzure> i think you're making this up :(
11:43 < smoosht> so you see the modification of DNA as a means of exploiting some existing well-known protein synthesis
11:45 <@kanzure> uh..
11:45 <@kanzure> it's better if we do this by you just stating your specific biases or whatever
11:45 <@kanzure> instead of leading me on
11:45 <@kanzure> dna can be used for many things. in a cell it can be used for protein synthesis, that's true.
11:49 < smoosht> http://www.nrel.gov/continuum/deliberate_science/images/graphic_biofuels_02_large.jpg
11:49 <@kanzure> what about it?
11:52 < smoosht> the molecule on the right side , the catalytic domain, is producing chains of twisted polysacharides
11:53 <@kanzure> yes..?
11:56 < smoosht> carbon nanotubes are known to be able to bind on proteins and enzymes
11:59 < smoosht> a plant cell could technically link polyacetylene molecules
12:05 < smoosht> and then something like this could be done to those chains
12:05 < smoosht> http://www.intechopen.com/source/html/38953/media/image15.png
12:11 <@kanzure> smoosht: i don't see how any of this is the same as creating nanotubes
12:11 <@kanzure> also i don't understand why https://metacpan.org/module/JSPL::Runtime::CommonJS
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12:22 < smoosht> maybe you could get up as far as graphene
12:22 < smoosht> brb
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14:47 <@kanzure> oh look the bot is back
15:07 <@kanzure> hah "The MPAA previously won a $110 million judgment against the TorrentSpy site, and it’s expected the damages claimed against isoHunt will be in the same range, or perhaps even higher."
15:07 < sivoais> would anyone happen to have the PDFs for the VLSI CAD course that was on Coursera? Archives aren't available right now.
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15:33 < delinquentme> More astounding, the Penn team clocked processing speeds. The conscious mind solves problems at roughly 100-150 miles-per-hour. Meanwhile, our subconscious blazes away at close to 100,000 m.p.h. ... miles per hour as a measure of computation speed??
15:34 <@kanzure> this is why you shouldn't read news, delinquentme
15:34 < delinquentme> That comes across as pretty much nonsense right?
15:34 <@kanzure> yep
15:35 <@kanzure> all news does
15:35 < delinquentme> im interested in this because via personal experience I've had subconsciousness do crazy things
15:35 < delinquentme> but only in certain situations
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15:39 < delinquentme> kanzure, all news isn't bad ... yes it has its downsides but I like actually getting excited about whats happening
15:40 < delinquentme> news does that even if its old news, or other.
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15:54 <@kanzure> hehehe this was my composer that i was using back in 2003-2005.. glad to see he's still rocking it: http://www.vincentrubinetti.com/listen.html
15:54 <@kanzure> e.g. http://www.vincentrubinetti.com/music/Noetic%20Force.mp3
15:55 < delinquentme> A plasmon is a collective excitation of the electronic "fluid" in a piece of conducting material, like ripples on the surface of a pond are a collective mode of the water molecules of the liquid. The simile here isn't too far off, because like water, the electronic fluid in a metal is pretty close to incompressible
15:55 < delinquentme> this is the single best explanation of plasmon interaction I've ever seen
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16:14 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: AAAS is putting ads in papers from science supply companies. why don't these supply companies just pay for your subscription? reading science things eventually leads to doing science, right?
16:14 < yashgaroth> supply companies aren't dumb enough to pay those exorbitant rates
16:15 <@kanzure> oh, of the paper? sure. most ad impressions- anywhere- are $0.001 to *maybe* $1 in some cut-throat markets. google adsense has $60-$110 for keywords like insurance and crap. but i imagine eyeballs/clicks would be nearly worthless in pdfs.
16:15 <@kanzure> and $1 is nowhere near the $30 the publisher charges
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16:17 <@kanzure> i do see adsense ads once in a while for transgenic mice or atomic force microscopes and pcr reagents... it's a little weird.
16:17 < yashgaroth> I imagine they pay a decent amount per ad impression, since you can target very specifically, readers presume the advertiser has been vetted, other marketing etcs
16:18 <@kanzure> no idea what their rates might be..
16:19 <@kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/site/about/advertise.xhtml
16:19 <@kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/site/help/advertisers/product.xhtml
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16:20 <@kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/site/help/advertisers/2013_Science_Online_Advertising_Specs.pdf
16:20 <@kanzure> hah! $25k minimum spend.
16:20 <@kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/site/help/advertisers/terms.xhtml
16:22 < yashgaroth> I can't really think about advertising for a significant period of time without getting violent and/or depressed
16:22 <@kanzure> hmm they don't seem to mention the in-paper ads
16:23 <@kanzure> 3.7 million uniques/month according to http://www.sciencemag.org/site/help/advertisers/2013_Media_Kit_Product_Advertising_v2-1.pdf
16:23 < delinquentme> is the a service which ties a given term to the worlds top researchers?
16:24 < delinquentme> google and wikipedia are probs solid solutions for this huh?
16:25 <@kanzure> does sciencemag.org have publishing fees?
16:26 <@kanzure> i haven't looked at a physical journal, in print, in a long time. i figure most of them are full of ads. but not the individual papers..
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16:34 <@kanzure> hmm
16:34 <@kanzure> ftp://digitalads.aaas.org/
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16:37 <@kanzure> "digitalads@aaas.org. FTP: digitalads.aaas.org. User: daddrop. Pwd: daddrop"
16:40 < heath> sftp no workey
16:45 < Urchin[emacs]> what's that?
16:46 < gradstudentbot> Haha, undergrads.
16:47 <@kanzure> oh geeze, "Science: the natural selection for your advertising needs."
16:47 <@kanzure> how awful
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17:15 < klafka> hey how hard is it to scrape pdfs that have have like typed txt
17:16 < klafka> like http://www.sfbos.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/bdsupvrs/introduced/2013/LI071613.pdf
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17:50 <@kanzure> klafka: pdftotext, pdfminer, all sorts of options..
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18:38 <@kanzure> hack hack hack
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19:31 < EricHunting> https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/song-seikilos-1st-century/id73622463?i=73622314
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19:45 <@kanzure> EricHunting: welcome back
19:46 < EricHunting> Hi
19:46 <@kanzure> it's been a little slow today
19:46 < EricHunting> That's to be expected on a weekend.
19:47 <@kanzure> today i've been complaining about ads appearing in academic articles, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/diybio/9jH35OjVh1Q
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19:49 < EricHunting> Publishing is a dirty business today. Even in academic publishing--and especially textbooks. I work in that field.
19:50 <@kanzure> isn't that a dying business?
19:50 <@kanzure> fenn: are you around?
19:50 < EricHunting> Not really. E-books have been suppressed a long time, and still are.
19:52 <@kanzure> file sharing and amazon hasn't killed that industry yet?
19:52 <@kanzure> i think we're behind schedule then
19:54 < EricHunting> The only thing that will is universities and colleges taking back responsibility for publishing--and with so many professors and administrators on the take, that will be a long time coming.
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20:04 < EricHunting> But then, you get revelations like this that make you wonder why the industry hasn't imploded.    http://mikecanex.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/more-proof-the-big-six-of-publishing-are-run-by-morons/
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21:37 < eudoxia>  /quit
21:37 < eudoxia> aww shit
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21:58 < delinquentme> http://vimeo.com/43515949#
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