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04:48 <@fenn> kids these days.. why when i was a larva we used 50kbit dialup lasers
04:48 <@fenn> and we liked it
04:49 <@fenn> that slice of simulated worm muscle is wiggling at hypersonic speeds
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07:31 < kanzure> beep
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08:29 < superkuh> paperbot: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/195/195ra97.full.pdf
08:29 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3006135
08:34 < ParahSailin> .title http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/digital-culture/why-britains-anti-porn-mega-filter-is-great-no-really/article13344645/
08:34 < yoleaux> Why Britain’s anti-porn mega-filter is great (no, really) - The Globe and Mail
08:34 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3006135
08:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2b2d685ea38ccdc07891392ddc92a3b1.txt
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09:01 < kanzure> stop linking to the news
09:03 < chris_99> seems like a slippery slop ParahSailin, they already block TPB, how will i get my Linux ISOs now
09:03 < chris_99> *slope
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09:17 < ParahSailin> actual reason why subprocess.Popen only accepts the std fd's: http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/4123e002a1af/Modules/_posixsubprocess.c
09:18 < ParahSailin> you gotta make do with code smell, because python
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09:26 < kanzure> i forgot i had this laying around
09:26 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/annualreviews.json
09:29 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.genet.30.1.141
09:29 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1146%2Fannurev.genet.30.1.141
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12:58 < ParahSailin> kanzure: you use angularjs much?
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12:59 < kanzure> ParahSailin: a wee little bit.. yes.
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15:34 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by george church and the NRA | http://gnusha.org/logs http://diyhpl.us/wiki http://groups.google.com/group/diybio | banned by the Federal Death Administration | official paperbot fan club
15:34 -!- Topic set by kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] [Sat Mar 23 20:40:45 2013]
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17:11 < kanzure> grr freenode
17:11 < kanzure> also, does anyone have a list of biotech venture capital firms?
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17:15 < ParahSail1n> to what purpose?
17:16 < kanzure> satisfying my list hoarding compulsion
17:19 < ParahSail1n> as good as any, if no partcular use is in mind http://www.boogar.com/resources/venturecapital/bio-life_sciences.htm
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17:23 < kanzure> ParahSail1n: there's only about 7 per page.. so maybe 150 total? seems a little low to be honest. iirc there's supposed to be 100 that are local to the bay area alone.
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17:25 < kanzure> http://b-i.forbesimg.com/brucebooth/files/2013/05/Biotech-VC-Funding-1Q00-1Q13.jpg
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17:28 < kanzure> "To get a sense of the available capital for startups, those fundraising efforts need to be combined with the huge influx of corporate venture capital that our sector has witnessed.   GSK’s SR One and Novartis Venture Fund are two of the largest healthcare-only funds active in all of venture capital, as I’ve noted before (here).  When commentators claim less is being raised in Life Science VC than being invested, most fail to account for ...
17:29 < kanzure> ... $500M-$1B in Pharma corporate venture capital that gets allocated annually."
17:29 < kanzure> so.. why is it called corporate venture capital? i mean, why does it have to be a separate category?
17:29 < ParahSail1n> http://www.nvca.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=344&Itemid=103
17:30 < kanzure> "The industry dropped to second place overall behind software, with $3.7 billion going into 460 deals.
17:30 < kanzure> Read more: Biotech Venture Capital - FierceBiotech http://www.fiercebiotech.com/tags/biotech-venture-capital#ixzz2a6gum9QR
17:30 < kanzure> aw fucking javascript
17:31 < kanzure> that's an average of $800k per deal ? who the hell is raising only 500-800k in biotech?
17:41 < kanzure> http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/17/vcs-invested-26-5b-in-3698-companies-in-2012-total-dollars-and-deal-volume-both-down/
17:41 < kanzure> "As we mentioned, the Software industry maintained its status as the largest investment sector for the year, with dollars rising 10 percent over 2011 to $8.3 billion, which was invested into 1,266 deals, an 8 percent rise in volume over the prior year. This represented the highest level of investment in the Software sector since 2001."
17:41 < kanzure> "Biotechnology investment dollars declined 15 percent with volume flat in 2012 to $4.1 billion going into 466 deals, placing it as the second largest investment sector for the year in terms of dollars and deals. The Medical Device industry fell 13 percent in dollars and 15 percent in deals in 2012, finishing the year with $2.4 billion going into 313 deals."
17:42 < kanzure> brownies: i see a lot of biotech companies ran by business school grads that raise 50k-500k through those silly competitions and stuff. doesn't that count?
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17:42 < brownies> example?
17:42 < kanzure> that silly desksynth company? grr where is it..
17:42 < brownies> it's just the reality of the situation. wtf are you going to do in biotech with 50k?
17:42 < kanzure> http://deskgen.com/
17:42 < kanzure> make fancy webpages
17:42 < kanzure> eww gross "That's why we're developing AutoClone, a software tool that pools and intelligently shares your DNA sequence inventory with your colleagues"
17:42 < kanzure> i thought they were making a synthesizer
17:42 < brownies> until stuff like Transcriptic really takes off, the cost of *entering* biotech now is about comparable to the cost of *entering* internet software back in the 90s
17:43 < brownies> back then, remember, you had to buy servers and all that jazz
17:44 < kanzure> so for whatever reason i thought that there was more biotech vc activity than software
17:45 < gradstudentbot> She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author.
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17:51  * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 
17:51 < gradstudentbot> When are you going to publish?
17:51 < brownies> kanzure: i suspect it'll pick up.
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17:53 < kanzure> brownies: why?
17:56 < heath> another one!
17:56 < heath> autoclone, wtf
17:56 < heath> autoclone, synbiota, benchling are all working on a dna sequence editor
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17:57 < kanzure> it's called deskgen not autoclone. but yeah it's junk.
17:57 < heath> synbiota at least released GENtle2
17:57 < heath> yes
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17:57 < kanzure> i told you that everyone was doing it
17:57 < kanzure> and nobody wants it
17:57 < kanzure> btw vectornti is sort of an established product in that market
17:57 < kanzure> i bet they will either acquire a cheap javascript toy or release their own at some point
17:57 < kanzure> but the market is small. like <$10M.
17:58 < heath> http://www.jbioleng.org/content/7/1/13
17:58 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1186%2F1754-1611-7-13
17:58 < heath> that paper was showed vectornti decreasing in usage in synbio
17:59 < heath> s/was//
17:59 < kanzure> oh good
17:59 < kanzure> glad to hear it
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18:24 < ParahSail1n> people pay for dna sequence viewers?
18:26 < kanzure> biologists are not always the brightest when it comes to software
18:27 < heath> kanzure: suggestion of a module for parallel processing within python?
18:28 < kanzure> gevent
18:28 < heath> pykka looks fun, but concurrency != parallelism unfortunately
18:30 < kanzure> "pykka is alright, but I really hate the syntax it forces you to use… mostly taht's cuase of pythons limitations"
18:34 < heath> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15617553/gevent-multicore-usage
18:34 < heath> "nd finally, to utilize multi-core in Python - if that's what you want - we have to depend on the multiprocessing module (which is a built-in module in Python). This "gets around GIL". Other alternatives include using Jython or executing tasks in parallel (on different CPUs) using a task queue, e.g. Zeromq."
18:34 < heath> there it is
18:34 < kanzure> i recommend celery instead of zeromq
18:34 < kanzure> or rq if you want to go for minimalism
18:35 < kanzure> jython would be nice if it was kept current. but unfortunately it's only at some god-awful version of python 2.7 and it doesn't look like it's keeping updated.
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18:39 < kanzure> childcorn: hi
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19:27 < kanzure> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/10/the-scrap-value-of-a-hacked-pc-revisited/
19:27 < kanzure> distributed tracing stuff http://twitter.github.io/zipkin/architecture.html
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19:36 < heath> https://gist.github.com/heath/6085649
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19:37 < heath> hello world programs related to the above conversation
19:40 < heath> updated version
19:40 < heath> https://gist.github.com/heath/6085671
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20:48 < kanzure> argh vagrant
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21:55 < heath> google.com/robots.txt
21:55 < heath> it's so big
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23:54 < kanzure> you guys are boring
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