--- Log opened Sun Jul 28 00:00:38 2013 00:02 <@heath> paper based microfludic design won't do for this design, but maybe there's another design is ideal for the FLASH method 00:17 <@heath> paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/288/5463/113.long 00:17 < paperbot> http://pdf.highwire.org/stamped/sci/288/5463/113.full.pdf 00:17 <@heath> paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/298/5593/580.long 00:17 < paperbot> http://pdf.highwire.org/stamped/sci/298/5593/580.full.pdf 00:30 <@heath> this is going to be useful: http://www.coleparmer.com/Category/Microbore_PTFE_Tubing/6820 00:35 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:45 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 00:48 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:01 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:24 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:26 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:37 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:42 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:44 -!- kmo [~kmo@unaffiliated/kmo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:57 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@61.245.165.53] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:03 -!- kmo [~kmo@unaffiliated/kmo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:06 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:06 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:54 <@kanzure> if i have to upload a few gigabytes, where should i go to do it quickly? 04:56 < xl0> Your own vps. 04:57 <@kanzure> nope, the data is local to my physical presence 04:57 <@kanzure> getting it to my vps would take forever from my current location 04:57 <@kanzure> this is why i am asking where i should go 04:57 <@kanzure> please proceed to nearest exist 04:57 < ThomasEgi> any nearby universities? 04:58 <@kanzure> oh, hm 04:58 <@kanzure> yes 04:58 < xl0> Are you, like, in US? 04:58 < ThomasEgi> many have pretty good internet connections. maybe not over wifi. but if you find a cable to plug in somewhere. that should do the trick 04:58 <@kanzure> xl0: yes. 04:59 <@kanzure> ThomasEgi: okay. too bad google fiber hasn't hit yet. the bilboards are promising "soon". 04:59 < ThomasEgi> you mean NSA fibre :D 05:00 < ThomasEgi> *fiber 05:00 <@kanzure> shrug, whatever. i'm supposed to be a fed, right? 05:04 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-182-207.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:32 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:36 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- randallagordon [~randall@71-214-112-21.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:55 -!- randallagordon [~randall@67-5-174-150.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- Sanky [~minisanky@82-100-4-189.net.7data.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- Sanky [~minisanky@82-100-4-189.net.7data.eu] has quit [Changing host] 07:25 -!- Sanky [~minisanky@unaffiliated/sanky] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:47 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@61.245.165.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-147-6-89.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 < biostudent> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v29/n9/full/nbt0911-774.html?WT.ec_id=NBT-201109 08:03 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnbt0911-774 08:04 < biostudent> cheers paperbot 08:16 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:56 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 09:19 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 09:26 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 <@heath> gradstudentbot meet biostudent 09:43 < gradstudentbot> The fluorescent microscope is broken. 09:45 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-18-159-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12 -!- panax [~panax@68.200.160.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- panax [~panax@68.200.160.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15 -!- panax [~panax@68.200.160.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:22 < biostudent> we're acquainted, eh gradstudentbot? 10:22 < gradstudentbot> Who got mustard on my cell culture? 10:42 -!- cogitokat [~kat@cpe-66-68-190-37.austin.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- pan4x [panax@131.247.116.23] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- panax [~panax@68.200.160.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:50 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-18-159-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-147-6-89.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:14 <@ParahSail1n> i can't find non-PR of this http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2013/july/world-changing-technology-enables-crops-to-take-nitrogen-from-the-air-.aspx 11:15 <@ParahSail1n> paperbot, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/gcbb.12006/abstract 11:15 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1111/gcbb.12006.pdf 11:15 <@ParahSail1n> seems related 11:16 < gradstudentbot> The fluorescent microscope is broken. 11:17 <@ParahSail1n> dude hasnt published recently 11:19 < jrayhawk_> 13:45 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: what was your earlier point about me being a terrible person for not having a long list of non-engineering-related tasks for people to do? 11:19 <@ParahSail1n> http://www.azotictechnologies.com/index.php/technology/ 11:20 < jrayhawk_> the idea was to have a list of non-engineering project lists similar to your engineering project lists that would be used as a counterexample for when people claim that you think non-engineers are useless 11:21 < jrayhawk_> a claim you seemed disproportionately indignant about on the occasions on which it arose 11:21 < jrayhawk_> if you don't really care, then eh 11:38 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: i encountered another claim recently where someone thought i was evil for hating random meetings of "diverse groups of people". my argument was something about diversity not being a necessaryily a condition that determines ssuccess on a project. and then they got all angry and called me a terrible person. 11:39 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: and i sort of assumed their claim of terribleness is related in some way to that other line of argumenting 11:39 <@kanzure> *being a necessary condition 11:39 <@kanzure> *success 11:39 <@kanzure> (this was about writing standards and engineering specs) 11:40 < jrayhawk_> ah, cargo cultism 11:40 <@kanzure> like, a bad spec is still bad even if your diversity metric is bumped way the hell up 11:40 <@kanzure> how is that cargo cultism? 11:40 <@kanzure> oh wait.. yeah it seems to fit exactly: "name derives from the apparent belief that various ritualistic acts will lead to a bestowing of material wealth" 11:41 <@kanzure> and challenging that belief is probably as bad as trying to evangelize the opposite of whatever religious practices they (don't) partake in 11:42 <@heath> .title http://compare.ebay.com/like/220926514624?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar 11:42 < yoleaux> Perkin Elmer SCIEX prOTOF 2000 MALDI-OTOF Proteomics Mass Spectrometer on eBay! 11:42 <@kanzure> it's weird how you can't easily comment about how diversity is not a sufficient condition for success without being easily branded a terrible person 11:42 <@heath> only 20,000USD 11:42 <@kanzure> you can probably find a cheaper mass spec 11:42 <@heath> er, ~30,000USD :| 11:43 <@kanzure> most startups these days are opting to hire a person to build specialty lab equipment instead of buying new equipment 11:43 <@kanzure> if a good mechanical engineer costs only $80k/year and can serve as the technician to fix all of your equipment problems, then it's way more cost effective to go for the warm body 11:44 <@kanzure> (even if you factor in healthcare or other "fully loaded" expenses) 11:44 <@kanzure> halcyon molecular did that for their electron microscopy work and dna miniscus stuff 11:45 <@kanzure> idtdna does that for their dna sequencers (other than the ones they get through their "buy back" program) 11:45 <@kanzure> transcriptic sorta kinda does that (though not really.. i think a lot of their equipment is off-the-shelf). 11:45 <@kanzure> geneart definitely does their own synthesizers. i am pretty sure they are supposed to be giant 4x8 foot tables? haven't seen them yet. 11:46 < cpopell> most good graduating meches I know are getting out of the field unfortunately 11:46 <@kanzure> cambrian genomics is another obvious one 11:46 <@kanzure> cpopell: do you know why? 11:46 < cpopell> except for a couple specialties 11:46 < cpopell> yeah, the pay 11:46 <@kanzure> how bad is the pay? 11:46 < cpopell> 60-70 starting if you're lucky. 20-30 higher for compsys and compsci, 15 higher for EE 11:47 < cpopell> you're lucky if you get an offer of 72 with a masters 11:47 < cpopell> it's also somewhat too 'focus' specific 11:47 <@kanzure> cpopell: i did a survey on cs and it's a bit higher than you might think, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5802295 11:47 < klafka_> kanzure i dont' think that's a good sampling frame 11:47 < klafka_> frankly 11:47 < cpopell> yeah, I'm not using my own friends group for CS, lol 11:48 < cpopell> because one of them had a starting 130 11:48 < klafka_> is that total comp or base salary 11:48 <@kanzure> i bet base. 11:48 < cpopell> that was first year comp 11:48 < cpopell> err 11:48 < cpopell> first year base 11:48 < cpopell> including signing 11:49 < klafka_> i could see that if they had good self projets and stuff in something like mobile or embedded 11:49 < cpopell> but he's good enough that's he keeps getting max raises 11:49 < cpopell> (Microsoft) 11:49 < klafka_> like at google or another big company 11:49 < klafka_> yeah 11:49 <@kanzure> anyway, yeah i can see how mechanical people are getting screwed a bit 11:49 <@kanzure> i mean, a lot of them were treated like cad monkeys 11:49 < cpopell> aero is just as bad 11:49 <@kanzure> and that's practically the same as being 3d modeling monkeys for movie studios, except you have to constrain your models to obey reality 11:49 < cpopell> except there's even less 'lower tier' aero jobs 11:50 <@ParahSail1n> you're talking about mechE's? 11:50 <@kanzure> yes 11:50 < cpopell> ParahSail1n: yeah 11:50 <@ParahSail1n> yeah i just put a craigslist ad out for a mechE 11:50 < cpopell> They found jobs, I'm not saying they didn't. They're just getting away from their field and gravitating to higher paying ones. 11:50 < gradstudentbot> Actually, I didn't do that part, it was already here when I joined the lab. 11:50 <@ParahSail1n> the field seems pretty desperate 11:51 < cpopell> not enough depts are teaching controls theory or finite elements 11:51 <@kanzure> i often hear EEs making extremely elitist comments against mechanical engineering folks. it's really crazy. 11:52 <@kanzure> i bet we can troll jonathan cline into ranting about that 11:52 < cpopell> we live in a wired paradigm 11:52 < klafka_> control theory seems to be more of an EE thing 11:52 < cpopell> Ehhhh 11:52 <@kanzure> klafka_: nah, consider mechatronic stuff 11:52 < klafka_> aah 11:52 < cpopell> Yeah 11:52 < cpopell> there's a lot of physical dynamics 11:52 <@heath> nmz787: oligo synthesis, i'm a bit focused on it right now 11:52 < cpopell> RPI actually taught the first Mechatronics class to my knowledge 11:52 <@kanzure> "you mean i have to actually consider axial rotation?" 11:53 <@heath> nmz787: might be a good time to collaborate 11:53 <@kanzure> heath: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/synthesis.html 11:53 <@heath> i'm aware 11:53 < gradstudentbot> I don't have enough data to form a hypothesis. 11:53 <@ParahSail1n> oh, but what you're saying is that mechE's are getting hired pretty easily? 11:53 <@heath> "Chemical Syntehsis of Oligonucleotides" Behlke, Devor is helpful 11:53 <@kanzure> heath: i meant http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna-synthesis.html 11:54 < cpopell> not in their own field, ParahSail1n 11:54 <@kanzure> i have no information about how hard it is to get hired for mechanical engineering work 11:54 < cpopell> and not with competitive salaries 11:54 <@heath> if you check the server logs, you'll probably have seen a kindle fetch that page 11:54 <@kanzure> heath: i want to work on a non-microfluidic dna synthesizer. 11:55 < cpopell> hm 11:55 < gradstudentbot> The fluorescent microscope is broken. 11:55 < cpopell> right, chevrm was working on sequencing, not synthesizing 11:55 <@heath> kanzure: samehere, it's the first logical step imho 11:57 * heath ignores mass spec for now 11:58 <@kanzure> okay, what's up with the fluorescent microscope today. the bot keeps complaining about it. is it stuck on a loop? 11:59 <@kanzure> maybe i should actually fix the microscope. 11:59 < gradstudentbot> If I break my arm, do I still have to present tomorrow? 11:59 <@kanzure> yeah he sent the message like 3 times. 12:27 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-147-6-89.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 13:08 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-147-6-89.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:09 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-148-58-72.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:17 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:33 -!- Sanky [~minisanky@unaffiliated/sanky] has quit [Quit: y] 13:40 -!- ParahSail1n [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40 -!- ParahSail1n [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:53 < streety> what does gradstudentbot do? 13:53 < gradstudentbot> I don't know whether I am Turing dreaming that I am a machine, or a machine dreaming that I am Turing! 13:57 <@kanzure> streety: he works in the ##hplusroadmap molecular biology lab 13:57 -!- biostudent_ [~chatzilla@host86-149-104-141.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:57 < streety> ##hplusroadmap has a molecular biology lab? 13:58 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-148-58-72.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:59 -!- biostudent_ is now known as biostudent 13:59 <@kanzure> yes.. i thought everyone knew this. 13:59 <@kanzure> i sometimes fail to mention things 14:12 < jrayhawk_> 11:42 <@kanzure> it's weird how you can't easily comment about how diversity is not a sufficient condition for success without being easily branded a terrible person 14:14 < jrayhawk_> diversity is a chicken and egg problem that can be jumpstarted with deception 14:14 < jrayhawk_> including self-deception 14:15 < jrayhawk_> lots of social activism involves pretending things are different until renormalization happens 14:16 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:32 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: that doesn't sound like a reliable way to do things 14:39 < jrayhawk_> the reliable ways are less wholesome 14:44 * heath recalls a paper where capping was unnecessary.. 14:47 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:47 <@heath> it's one of these papers: https://gist.github.com/heath/b10812351b6b8125a41c 14:56 <@heath> that's the one 14:56 <@heath> A microfluidic oligonucleotide synthesizer - 2009.pdf 14:57 <@heath> """Short oligonucleotides $15–25-nt in length can be synthesized without any capping step. Oligonucleotides >40 nt in length required a capping step to achieve high yield of full-length product.""" 14:59 <@heath> "A low-cost, open-source DIY DNA Synthesizer Project" when and where did you present this, kanzure? 15:00 <@heath> Looks like you were trying to obtain funding 15:00 < ParahSail1n> it got funding from nsa 15:01 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:01 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: that's not helping. padz already thinks i've been replaced by a fed for a completely unrelated reason. 15:02 <@kanzure> heath: yeah, nathan and i were testing the waters. i can self-fund this sort of project but if i can raise money that's even better. (never use your own money on risky projects) 15:02 <@kanzure> heath: btw i feel that a non-microfluidic synthesizer is much less risky and shouldn't require outside funding 15:04 -!- upgrayeddd [~uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njbyhykoalzzswva] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: i can't tell if you are joking or not. less wholesome according to who? 15:05 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 15:21 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:39 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 <@kanzure> nicedice: hi 15:45 < nicedice> hi 15:47 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-149-104-141.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-149-104-141.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- molitva [~emankcin@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:24 < ParahSail1n> paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nchem.1476 16:24 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1038/nchem.1476.pdf 16:38 <@heath> adventures in synthetic biology went from comic to animation it seems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N6Wvz-6FNI&list=PL6ECA7768EF1B38C0 16:45 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 16:53 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:58 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: brb] 16:59 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:21 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@host86-149-104-141.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:24 -!- upgrayeddd [uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujwlrwrvehkuzqqn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 < ParahSail1n> .wa specific heat of fusion of water * 1 kg in btu 17:27 < yoleaux> ParahSail1n: Sorry, no result! 17:32 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-20-218-158.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:44 < ParahSail1n> these commercial ice making machines seem to get terrible coefficent of performance 17:50 -!- molitva [~emankcin@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:57 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:02 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:23 < nmz787> heath: cool, where are you located? 18:23 < nmz787> heath: and remind me of your background, so I can appropriately talk to you about this stuff 18:26 -!- makoLime [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:39 <@heath> nmz787: northern part of alabama currently 18:39 <@heath> nmz787: where are you sir 18:40 <@heath> my background is the internet :P 18:40 <@heath> i'm a software developer 18:41 < nmz787> portland oregon 18:41 < nmz787> background is programming and biotech 18:41 < nmz787> and lots of selflearned electronics 18:42 < nmz787> but heading out, back in a few hours 18:42 <@heath> k 18:42 <@heath> i feel like most everything is self taught :) 18:53 <@heath> ..in the sense that you have to listen/read and reason about whatever is presented to you, otherwise aren't taught 18:54 <@kanzure> i'm not sure the distinction between formal/informal education matters in this context 18:54 <@kanzure> doesn't seem to be a point worth discriminating on 18:55 <@heath> the wiki article on oligo synth has improved a lot since ~2010! 19:03 < cpopell> Of interest to this channel: DARPA STTR ST13B-001 is 'Advanced Tools for Mammalian Genome Engineering' 19:03 < cpopell> 'OBJECTIVE: Improve the utility of Human Artificial Chromosomes (HACs) by developing new selectable metabolic markers for use in human cells, new high-fidelity methods for inserting DNA constructs of at least 50,000 base pairs (bp) in length into defined genomic loci, and new methodologies for facile intercellular genome transplantation.' 19:04 < yashgaroth> darpa's supersoldier program coming along nicely 19:04 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:08 <@heath> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo01348a035 19:08 <@heath> paperbot... 19:09 <@heath> paperbot! 19:09 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1021%2Fjo01348a035%26pubId%3D40602996 19:09 < ParahSail1n> http://sci-hub.org/pdfcache/ee81468942f6b97aacdf568b806e5250.pdf 19:17 <@kanzure> you have to wait for him sometimes 19:21 * heath feels that he might should purchase phosphodiesters 19:23 < ParahSail1n> we have any folks here who are students at big unis with good library subscriptions? 19:26 <@heath> the only student i'm aware of is biostudent 19:26 <@heath> mostly because his nick has "student" in it 19:26 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: let's not use people we know. be smart about it. 19:30 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:46 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:01 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:03 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 -!- _Sol_ [~Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:08 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- tomkinsc [~tomkinsc@c-24-4-11-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- tomkinsc [~tomkinsc@c-24-4-11-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:16 -!- tomkinsc [~tomkinsc@c-24-4-11-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29 <@heath> kanzure: are you aware of a large company in python land similar to hashrocket? 20:29 * heath is finally disenchanted with node.js 20:30 * heath is only aware of enthought 20:30 <@kanzure> enthought is on the wrong end of the spectrum from what you're looking for 20:33 <@kanzure> continuum too 20:33 <@kanzure> i mean the company named continuum it's not me just saying spectrum differently 20:36 <@kanzure> thoughtbot is also not what you want 20:43 -!- kittyprom [~emankcin@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:47 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@120.88.50.102] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 20:49 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:00 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01 -!- tomkinsc [~tomkinsc@c-24-4-11-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My computer has gone to sleep. 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