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06:43 <@kanzure> "Naturally, no one I spoke to at Thermo Fischer Scientific ever heard of the web site.  Thank goodness for the Wayback Machine (which apparently no tech/web support people on the phones have ever heard of either).  Using Wayback, I was able to prove to them that the site did exist on Jan. 24, 2013 and was gone by June 19, 2013.  I know it is a large company, but you think someone would have issued a press release or provided a takedown notice ...
06:43 <@kanzure> ... at www.spectraonline.com.  Does anyone on this list know which entity within Thermo Fischer Scientific was responsible for this?  Unfortunately, all the Help, About, Contact pages are too far down inside the web site to have been captured by Wayback."
06:51 <@kanzure> prolly not worthwhile but whatever http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyshowalter/2013/05/16/five-reasons-the-nra-won-the-recent-gun-control-debate-that-have-nothing-to-do-with-politics/
06:51 <@kanzure> http://mailinator.blogspot.pt/2013/05/mailinator-is-for-humans.html
06:52 <@kanzure> "POP3 got shut-off early largely because of a wide botnet attack (it was actually pretty impressive - and rate-limiters did nothing to slow it down)."{
06:52 <@kanzure> "For the first time in many years, Weblog files are being turned on. Just like 99.9% of all other websites, we'll now keep weblogs. Not having them has been a hindrance to tracking abuse. Having logs will help us track usage patterns and hopefully slow down abuse altogether."
06:52 <@kanzure> "All current programmatic-esque interfaces will be phased out. POP is already gone, others to follow."
06:53 <@kanzure> gah time to find a mailinator replacement i guess
06:54 <@kanzure> oh good, some alternatives https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6184626 https://anonbox.net/ http://anonymouse.org/anonemail.html http://trash-mail.com/ http://www.dispostable.com/ https://www.silentsender.com/
06:54 <@kanzure> http://mailinator.blogspot.pt/2007/01/architecture-of-mailinator.html
06:54 <@kanzure> http://mailinator.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/how-mailinator-compresses-email-by-90.html
07:01 <@kanzure> would be cool to combine this data with craigslist listings somehow http://andrewxhill.github.io/cartodb-examples/scroll-story/pluto/index.html
07:02 <@kanzure> (new york real estate)
07:03 <@kanzure> you can probably do view estimations just based on the height data
07:04 <@kanzure> i.e. whether or not your view is obstructed from a certain location
07:04 <@kanzure> and then do that for every possible residential unit in each of the buildings
07:04 <@kanzure> http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ "OsmocomBB is an Free Software / Open Source GSM Baseband software implementation. It intends to completely replace the need for a proprietary GSM baseband software, such as drivers for the GSM analog and digital baseband (integrated and external) peripherals; the GSM phone-side protocol stack, from layer 1 up to layer 3"
07:07 <@kanzure> oh also.. with that real estate data from new york city you can predict what the view out any given window on any given floor will probably look like.
07:08 <@kanzure> s/predict/render
07:21 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: i dunno what this is about but someone thought you should know, 09:22 < anarchivist> kanzure: https://gist.github.com/anarchivist/6175623
07:21 < ryankarason> any of you all seen Paralella?
07:21 <@kanzure> yes
07:22 < ryankarason> seems a large leap in the right direction from my perspective.
07:22 < ryankarason> maybe not large
07:22 < ryankarason> but a leap none-the-less
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07:31 < ParahSail1n> well i ordered one in the kickstarter
07:36 <@kanzure> var article = { get supplements() { return [{ get name() { return "supplement1"; } }, { get name() { return "supplement2"; } }]; } };
07:36 <@kanzure> article.supplements is [ { name: [Getter] }, { name: [Getter] } ]
07:36 <@kanzure> i don't really like "Getter" being returned there. it makes it non-obvious what's going on.
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08:55 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sms.12104/full
08:55 < EnLilaSko> Wops
08:55 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sms.12104/full
08:55 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1111/sms.12104.pdf
08:57 <@kanzure> maybe papermonk should make download call the callback with {} of metadata and one key could be "pdfs" or "supplements" or "attachments". instead of a eparate pdfstream object.com
09:02 < ryankarason> ParahSail1n: nice. i thnk ima order one.
09:34 < aelinoea> hey are there any stories of people doing this stuff for at least for a year or so and posting results after starting?
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10:21 <@kanzure> a year of what? your question doesn't make any sense.
10:22 < ParahSailin> a cycle of horse steroids
10:22 <@kanzure> oh that sounds fun
10:22 < ParahSailin> humanity enhancement
10:23 < ParahSailin> the lw bronies are into horse steroids ever since that paper came out
10:23 <@kanzure> i'm on a plane and my phone's keyboard can't type shift-9 or shift=0. i am so sad.
10:23 < ParahSailin> in the air?
10:23 < ParahSailin> just use $ instead of ()
10:23 <@kanzure> the whole point of a wireless keyboard is to be able to type regularly
10:23 <@kanzure> yeah i am in the air
10:23 <@kanzure> huh?
10:24 <@kanzure> well shift 4 doesn't work either. damn.
10:24 <@kanzure> who designed this crap?
10:24 < ParahSailin> you can use a bunch of lets/wheres
10:25 < gradstudentbot> Nope, that's not even remotely possible.
10:25 <@kanzure> so anyway, i think that the download function should call the callback with only a dictionary, and the dictionary can have an attribute called files which are uh, i guess they can be getters that return pdfstreams.
10:25 <@kanzure> remind me to never let you write in bash
10:27 < ParahSailin> just make them lazy pdfstreams and if theyre never called they dont get called
10:27 <@kanzure> agreed
10:27 < ParahSailin> call me maybe
10:27 <@kanzure> but also, it should be something like a dictionary that wraps a pdfstream, because you want them to have filenames or something
10:27 <@kanzure> i think lazy is the same thing as a getter
10:28 <@kanzure> var something = { get blah0~1~ { return "what"; } };
10:29 < ParahSailin> flying to sj?
10:29 <@kanzure> detroit, gonna meet up my homies
10:29 <@kanzure> also: LAND
10:29 < ParahSailin> detroit thats kinda unexpected
10:30 < ParahSailin> http://www.reddit.com/r/Agorism/comments/1iulmz/who_wants_to_start_a_countercommunity_in_detroit/
10:30 <@kanzure> ugh it's stuck in capslock. i didn't mean to do that.
10:31 <@kanzure> i'll be back in san jose on the 18th
10:34 <@kanzure> i wonder if this airline has ip address-based accesss to journals
10:37 < ParahSailin> is there some contract in detroit?
10:37 <@kanzure> haha definitely not
10:38 <@kanzure> that place is broke
10:38 < ParahSailin> yeah because that would seem absolutely insane
10:45 <@kanzure> i also wanted to write a fork of https://github.com/alexgorbatchev/node-browser-builtins/tree/master/builtin
10:45 <@kanzure> for phantomjs
10:45 <@kanzure> phantomjs is able to use some node modules by default, and then others can be used via converting them through browserify, but there's still a lot that are unusable because those core modules aren't written for phantomjs
10:45 <@kanzure> so those should be ported over to phantomjs
10:46 < ParahSailin> sounds terrible
10:46 < ParahSailin> the entire ecosystem i mean
10:48 <@kanzure> i think it's good that code between node and browser clients can be shared. a url parser should work the same in node and in the browser and whatever other js platform.
10:48 <@kanzure> i mean, what should be different about basic math? http requests?
10:49 <@kanzure> and who wants to maintain two different libraries in javascript that has the same exact api, but it has to be in separate repositories?
10:49 <@kanzure> bad question, i would probably do that
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11:11 <@kanzure> hey wait ( ( ( hooray
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16:27 < nmz787> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es4011724
16:28 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1021%2Fes4011724%26pubId%3D384525616
16:28 < nmz787> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es4011724
16:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/94f35994e8521e858760fff49fcf925d.pdf
16:29 < nmz787> it just needs extra poking?
16:41 < ParahSail1n> it is nondeterministic due to its sci-hub fallback
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16:52 < stieruridir> sup ian
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20:04  * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 
20:04 < gradstudentbot> I should take a break, my pipetting arm is killing me.
20:35 <@kanzure> detroit is vacant
20:36 < yashgaroth> don't get shot
20:36 <@kanzure> getting shot is just a part of life
20:37 < yashgaroth> often near the end of it
20:41 <@kanzure> deadly accurate
20:41 < ParahSail1n> you'd think cheap real estate would equal potential
21:00  * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 
21:00 < gradstudentbot> I am busy doing science, go away.
21:00 < brownies> kanzure: going to buy up some property?
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23:34 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/334/6061/1413.abstract
23:34 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1212003
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