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01:00 < kanzure> 2009-05-15 04:08:13 fenn you can use ctypes if it makes you feel better
01:00 < kanzure> IT DOES
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01:45 < kanzure> brlcad + ctypes + python works pretty well except for their weird macro system
01:45 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/wdb_example.py
01:45 < kanzure> instead of functions to allocate you a new thing they have macros that i can't figure out how to bind against
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04:38 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=359031&coll=portal&dl=ACM
04:38 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F359024.359031
04:39 < poppingtonic> paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/800179.810196
04:39 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Debunking%20the%20expensive%20procedure%20call%20myth%20or%2C%20procedure%20call%20implementations%20considered%20harmful%20or%2C%20LAMBDA%3A%20The%20Ultimate%20GOTO.pdf
04:42 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/359024.359031
04:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Design%20of%20a%20LISP-based%20microprocessor.pdf
04:43 < poppingtonic> oy gradstudentbot
04:43 < gradstudentbot> It's contaminated.
04:44 < poppingtonic> gradstudentbot: do you have a minute?
04:44 < gradstudentbot> Which calculator do you need? I have a TI-83 and a TI-84.
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04:52 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/234286.1057818
04:52 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20evolution%20of%20Lisp.pdf
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05:15 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2322516
05:15 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evaluating%20Graduated%20Response.pdf
05:24 < wallmani> what exactly does paperbot do?
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05:26 < nalkri> Seems to collect references to diyhpl.us
05:26 < wallmani> i see
05:26 < nalkri> Which I assume stands for Do It Yourself Human PLus
05:27 < nalkri> Why on earth it'd have a .us TLD is beyond me though
05:27 < wallmani> i see
05:27 < wallmani> me and a friend have a git repo were we put papers, then have git ignore one directory where we keep track of waht we read
05:33 < poppingtonic> It downloads files from paywalled sites, uploads them to diyhpl.us, then posts a link to the file here.
05:34 < nalkri> Ah, that's why it's not just an index then
05:34 < nalkri> Thanks comrade
05:34 < poppingtonic> nalkri: ^
05:34 < poppingtonic> np
05:35 < nalkri> And now I shall rant on the immorality of paywalling academic papers!
05:38 < poppingtonic> I think paperbot is quite an elaborate rant, in itself. :)
05:38 < nalkri> Well, I'm not going to actually rant for that reason of course, and because I suspect it's obvious to most H+ types
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05:45 < poppingt`>  /nick poppingtonic
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05:50 < nalkri> poppingt`: fewer spaces
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08:30 < FourFire> Hello
08:32 < FourFire> are there any current instances of Microbot technology (between 1 cubic millimeter and 1000 cubic micrometers in size) ?
08:40 < nalkri> There are certainly machines on such scales
08:41 < nalkri> Does it have to be motile and a machine to count?
08:41 < FourFire> motile, and able to rip/manipulate matter to some degree
08:42 < FourFire> I'm thinking precursors to "nanobots" just orders of magnitude bigger
08:43 < nalkri> I don't think so, that would seem to suggest Vonn Neumann machines
08:43 < nalkri> Which we don't even have on the macroscale(unless you include us)
08:45 < kanzure> huh?
08:45 < kanzure> nalkri: no idea what you're talking about
08:45 < kanzure> FourFire: yes we have micron-scale machines
08:45 < FourFire> can you hand me some keywords so I can learn about them?
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09:29 < kanzure> brlcad + python + ctypes is working. now i just need to pretty up the wrapper.
09:32 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/brlcad-python-ctypes-demo.zip
09:35 < kanzure> also this means brlcad in nanoengineer
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10:26 < archels> http://vimeo.com/74033442#
10:27 < archels> ##hplusroadmap, get to work
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10:29 < kanzure> justanotheruser: hi
10:31 < justanotheruser> hi kanzure
10:31 < justanotheruser> kanzure: I'm the guy from yesterday who was asking about NE1
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10:34 < kanzure> i see
10:34 < kanzure> if you bug me some more i might remember to dig up the wiki
10:34 < kanzure> and revive it
10:39 < justanotheruser> Do you have a copy from before the spambots took over?
10:41 < kanzure> both before and after
10:42 < kanzure> it doesn't matter, i've cleaned up spammed mediawiki installs before
10:42 < kanzure> it's really easy to detect spam changes
10:45 < justanotheruser> kanzure: are you in college? Do you have a job in nanotechnology?
10:45 < gradstudentbot> People have tried that, but it doesn't seem to work.
10:46 < kanzure> nope not in college
10:46 < kanzure> i do software contracting
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14:06 < nmz787> http://ascii.co.uk/art/dna
14:07 < kanzure> .title
14:07 < yoleaux> DNA - ASCII ART
14:07 < nmz787> `-:-.   ,-;"`-:-.   ,-;"`-:-.   ,-;"`-:-.   ,-;"
14:07 < nmz787>    `=`,'=/     `=`,'=/     `=`,'=/     `=`,'=/
14:07 < nmz787>      y==/        y==/        y==/        y==/
14:07 < nmz787>    ,=,-<=`.    ,=,-<=`.    ,=,-<=`.    ,=,-<=`.
14:07 < nmz787> ,-'-'   `-=_,-'-'   `-=_,-'-'   `-=_,-'-'   `-=_
14:07 < kanzure> inaccurate, where's the P?
14:07 < nmz787> P?
14:08 < kanzure> don't we have some phosphates or something in there
14:08 < justanotheruser> That's some really ugly ascii art
14:08 < nmz787> this is an hidden view model :P
14:08 < kanzure> i see i see
14:09 < justanotheruser> atleast my clients spacing makes it really ugly
14:09 < kanzure> i see http://hastebin.com/guyixamaho.xml
14:11 < nmz787> (__T A__)
14:11 < nmz787> (__A T__)
14:11 < nmz787>  \_G C_/
14:11 < nmz787>    \_/
14:11 < nmz787>     X
14:11 < nmz787>    /_\
14:11 < nmz787>  /_T A_\
14:11 < nmz787> (__A T__)
14:11 < nmz787>  \_G C_/
14:11 < nmz787>    \_/
14:11 < nmz787>     X
14:11 < nmz787>    /_\
14:11 < nmz787>  /_G C_\
14:11 < nmz787> (__T A__)
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14:11 < nmz787> (__A T__)
14:11 < nmz787>  \_C G_/
14:11 < n_benthamiana> o/
14:11 < nmz787>    \_/
14:11 < nmz787>     X
14:11 < nmz787> Ned Lally
14:11 < justanotheruser> hello n_benthamiana
14:11 < justanotheruser> thanks for breaking that
14:11 < n_benthamiana> hello there. sorry
14:11 < n_benthamiana> just waving hello
14:12 < justanotheruser> I was not being sarcastic, I'm glad it was broken
14:12 < n_benthamiana> :)
14:13 < n_benthamiana> know much about a nanodrop justanotheruser? i'm trying to switch the nd1000 we have from 1 computer to another. wondering if i have to re-calibrate or anything special after i hook it up to the new machine?
14:14 < nmz787> i took apart an nd1000
14:14 < nmz787> nathanmccorkle.com/take_aparts/nanodrop
14:15 < nmz787> heh i think the counter at the bottom of that page hasn't worked in years
14:15 < nmz787> oh, no i guess it does
14:15 < kanzure> was there any microcode on that nanodrop
14:16 < kanzure> or was it all windows-side
14:16 < kanzure> and if so, do you have that windows software
14:16 < justanotheruser> Never heard of it n_benthamiana
14:17 < n_benthamiana> ok thx
14:17 < chris_99> what's the min/max wavelength it can do?
14:19 < n_benthamiana> T_T windows 8 is unsupported---won't install
14:21 < justanotheruser> n_benthamiana: have you tried changing the compatibility mode?
14:21 < n_benthamiana> yes.
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14:28 < n_benthamiana> justanotheruser: i'm able to run the installer; however, it won't allow me to install because it says that the system does not meet the minimum requirements (windows 7, win xp, win 2000, win vista, win server 2003)
14:31 < nmz787> yes i have all the windows software
14:31 < nmz787> the firmware is likely no different than the other USB2000s
14:31 < nmz787> or 4000s
14:31 < nmz787> the windows side driver I think is what might be different
14:32 < nmz787> just so it appears as a nanodrop in device manager
14:32 < n_benthamiana> Any advice on what to do? I'm about to take out this hdd and slap it into a win7 machine, install the program, and then put the hdd back into this machine and run the program in compatibility mode.
14:33 < nmz787> n_benthamiana: no recal needed, just blank as always
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14:33 < n_benthamiana> Ok thank you nmz787.
14:33 < nmz787> unless you see some hidden settings file
14:33 < nmz787> n_benthamiana: i'm jsut assuming that, but I believe it to be accurate
14:34 < n_benthamiana> if not, i'll just stick w/ the old machine
14:35 < n_benthamiana> but i'll catch you later. gotta shutdown and take out the hdd.
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14:35 < nmz787> whoops
14:35 < nmz787> it looks like i have the installer
14:36 < nmz787> that might have helped them out
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14:45 < kanzure> he will be back eventually
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15:56 < kanzure> jrayhawk: is it normal for a git-svn bridge to change commit ids for old commits? i haven't updated brlcad.git in 6 months and they are different.
15:57 < jrayhawk> Not unless the svn history got rewritten at some point.
15:58 < jrayhawk> Or major changes were made to the git-svn setup.
16:00 < kanzure> hmm.
16:00 < kanzure> jrayhawk: gnusha.org:/home/bryan/public_html/papers2/cad/brlcad/ is the git repo (yes i know it's in a stupid place, that's why i just found it again)
16:00 < kanzure> jrayhawk: the master branch is what i had, and origin/master is what they have now
16:00 < kanzure> jrayhawk: curious to see your opinion on this repo
16:04 < jrayhawk> Yeah, the SVN URL changed.
16:05 < jrayhawk> which would qualify as a major change to the git-svn setup.
16:05 < jrayhawk> So all the hashes are going to be different as a result of the commit messages.
16:06 < kanzure> fooey
16:06 < jrayhawk> That could've been avoided if the git-svn setup had included just the revision and not the repository URL in the commit message.
16:07 < kanzure> is there a way to have a more stable git-svn bridge
16:07 < kanzure> ah thanks
16:08 < kanzure> why didn't i piny newrepo myself a thing for that?
16:08 < jrayhawk> it's possible that you cloned that before i had newrepo --disable-ikiwiki working
16:10 < kanzure> could we do our own git-svn bridge? i have commit access i think.
16:10 < kanzure> heh the military gave me commit access what are they thinking
16:11 < jrayhawk> Don't see a reason why not.
16:11 < kanzure> i was always put-off by having to do manual fetches
16:11 < jrayhawk> git-svn gateways have a habit of becoming defacto upstream over time.
16:11 < kanzure> maybe i can put an entry into a cronjob for nightly fetches?
16:11 < jrayhawk> Yeah, that'd be fine.
16:12 < kanzure> hard to become defacto upstream when all the commit ids keep changing on me
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17:21 < n_bentha> nmz787....what a pos that computer is. I couldn't get the hdd out becuase of the way the computer is configured, so I had to run cables from it to the win xp machine. Then the win xp machine wouldn't allow me to browse files on the hdd.
17:26 < sbaugh> what exactly is this piny thing? a wiki on git? sems neat
17:27 < kanzure> piny sets up projects with standard resources like git and ikiwkki and cgit
17:27 < kanzure> oops i mean ikiwiki
17:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit has some piny git repos
17:28 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki is diyhpluswiki.git
17:28 < kanzure> ssh newuser@diyhpl.us if you want to play around
17:28 < gradstudentbot> Which calculator do you need? I have a TI-83 and a TI-84.
17:29 < jrayhawk> Ikiwiki is a system for compiling markdown and various other text formats into webpages and interacting sanely with version control systems using hooks; it is a pain in the ass to get set up for shared environments. Piny is a management engine for ikiwiki and git.
17:30 < kanzure> jrayhawk: could i convince you to setup the brlcad git-svn mirror with the cronjob?
17:30 < jrayhawk> ugh, that involves working out how to use git-svn again
17:30 < kanzure> jrayhawk: also would it have the same commit ids as http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git currently?
17:30 < kanzure> yeah that's what stumped me too. i would have to look at an entire man page or something.
17:31 < jrayhawk> isn't http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git the one with the unstable IDs to begin with
17:31 < kanzure> "unstable" i dunno if it's actually unstable
17:31 < kanzure> i assume that more people are using this current brlcad.git than before
17:31 < kanzure> i have no idea. which one do you recommend?
17:34 < jrayhawk> if someone else is running git-svn %95 percent correctly, i think it might be better to fix the %5 percent of their policy that has the potential for problems
17:34 < jrayhawk> or, rather, ask them if they're willing to fix the %5
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17:34 < jrayhawk> redundant units
17:35 < kanzure> jrayhawk: can you /join #brlcad in case i need git backup?
17:35 < jrayhawk> right-o
17:35 < n_bentha> gradstudentbot, can u send me the ti-84 virtual calc? i only have the ti-83
17:35 < gradstudentbot> Dropped my sample.
17:35 < kanzure> it would be funny if they intentionally sabotaged the git-svn bridge so that git wouldn't catch on more
17:36 < jrayhawk> nah, this is an easy mistake to make
17:42 < nmz787> n_bentha: i have the installer for the nd100 software
17:42 < nmz787> nd1000
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17:43 < kanzure> nmz787: i'd like some of that
17:43 < nmz787> n_bentha: just found this http://www.peqlab.com/wcms/nanodrop/
17:43 < nmz787> about 10X the size of the directory i have
17:44 < nmz787> but the software i have is V3.5.2
17:44 < nmz787> and was running on XP
17:45 < nmz787> n_bentha: http://www.nanodrop.com/Support.aspx?Type=Software&Cat=NanoDrop%201000
17:47 < kanzure> jrayhawk: let's just assume the new ones
17:48 < kanzure> jrayhawk: or, alternatively, whichever url structure you prefer the most
17:48 < n_bentha> nmz787, but will it install on windows 8?
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18:07 < Burninate> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130909092338.htm
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18:34 < kanzure> anyone know richard ralph?
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18:46 < kanzure> yashgaroth: you?
18:46 < yashgaroth> who is he
18:47 < yashgaroth> I know a richard rouse assuming the surname was misheard
18:48 < kanzure> someone doing lab equipment work for jojack
18:48 < kanzure> maybe doing reprap things
18:48 < kanzure> sometimes i wonder if jojack is making up names
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19:08 < yashgaroth> yeah it's rouse
19:09 < yashgaroth> he is a 3d printing evangelist
19:09 < yashgaroth> that's about it really
19:10 < kanzure> oh :(
19:10 < kanzure> i was informed otherwise
19:10 < yashgaroth> um I think he does some sort of highthroughput equipment stuff, haven't really asked him
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19:12 < gradstudentbot> These findings indicate that extensive genetic engineering of human hematopoiesis can be achieved with lentiviral vectors.
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19:15 < yashgaroth> ah this is him http://www.htsresources.com/ but I dunno if he's still active with the lab, haven't seen him there since before the opening
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19:48 < kanzure> ugh http://emotivinsight.com/upload/video/EmotivInsight3DBrainActivityVisualizer.mp4
19:48 < kanzure> maybe i should just delete their marketing materials
19:51 < kanzure> also, they don't know how to do spam because they aren't wrapping their links with stalking sugar
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20:52 < heath> did someone ask for stalking sugar?
20:54 < heath> https://www.aclu.org/HouseDocuments
20:54 < heath> ^not stalking sugar, just something interesting
20:55 < heath> https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-immigrants-rights-national-security/documents-shed-light-border-laptop
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22:29 < anannie> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0966692304000651
22:29 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1016/j.jtrangeo.2004.08.011.pdf
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23:34 < justanotheruser> Anyone read any good books similar to soft machines? I'm looking for a book more in depth than engines of creation but slightly less technical than nanosystems.
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23:43 < kanzure> nanosystems is the minimum technical content allowed in here, next step is KSRM
23:50 < justanotheruser> Well I was looking for something nanotechnology related
23:50 < kanzure> KSRM counts
23:50 < kanzure> it just happens to also cover non-nanoscopic machines to.
23:50 < kanzure> *too.
23:51 < justanotheruser> nanosystems is good, but I don't want to read a technical book much as a book about how we will transition into nanotechnology
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23:52 < kanzure> futurism is off topic :p
23:53 < justanotheruser> KSRM has an average 2/5 review on Amazon
23:54 < kanzure> haters gonna hate
23:54 < justanotheruser> All of the text in this book, and all 400+ books from the same author are just cut/paste jobs from Wikipedia articles.
23:54 < justanotheruser> You can get the same info for free from Wikipeadia. So why pay for it?
23:54 < justanotheruser> Also, all of the info is thrown together, very unorganized. In fact, it is confusing.
23:54 < kanzure> table of contents - http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM.htm
23:54 < kanzure> you're looking at the wrong thing
23:55 < justanotheruser> Have you read soft machines?
23:56 < kanzure> no
23:56 < kanzure> this doesn't look like something i would find useful http://www.amazon.com/Soft-Machines-Nanotechnology-Richard-Jones/dp/0199226628
23:56 < kanzure> here have some science http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/nanotech/
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