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05:30 < Technicus> Hello . . .
05:37 < archels> hi
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05:42 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/adfm.201203122
05:42 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1002/adfm.201203122.pdf
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06:23 < Technicus> < http://phoneblocks.com/ >
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06:24 < ThomasEgi> Technicus, good luck connecting the 676 pins of a modern mobile CPU to the rest of the chips using a hand full of pins on the carrier board.
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06:27 < Technicus> ThomasEgi: At least it is a creative idea.
06:30  * heath takes one of gradstudentbot's pipettes
06:30 < gradstudentbot> You know, I hear you make more money being a garbage man.
06:30 < heath> :)
06:32 < FourFire> phoneblocks looks interesting... but yeah issues would need to be resolved
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06:40 < ThomasEgi> it is interesting. but it won't happen unless all manufactors of semiconductors agree on a rahter universal bus system and incorporate them into their chips.
06:40 < gradstudentbot> His lab is so awkward.
06:40 < ThomasEgi> and that takes throwing a lot of time and money at a lot of companies. i don't see that happen in forseeable future.
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06:43 < FourFire> basically it's a nice thing which we can't have
06:43 < ThomasEgi> well you can have it.. but not the size pictured there
06:43 < ThomasEgi> it'd be more like.. a phonebrick
06:44 < archels> yeah, that's kinda cute, but not really practical
06:44 < ThomasEgi> good enough to leave someone a message..
06:44 < ThomasEgi> by attacking a piece of paper and smashing it throuh their window
06:45 < ThomasEgi> *attaching
06:45 < archels> this would be a good concept for a tricorder though, focusing purely on the sensorium
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06:46 < FourFire> sure
06:47 < ThomasEgi> transmitting a bit of sensoring data is a piece of cake, compared to shoving full-hd display data over a 4pin lego-brick-sized connector board
06:47 < archels> speaking of which, y'all seen the mini 3D printed spectrometer?
06:47 < FourFire> could you have an FPGA inside the base?
06:47 < FourFire> all of the blocks ping "here I am" from each of their corner studs
06:47 < archels> ThomasEgi: well, any serial protocol is feasible
06:48 < FourFire> so that the base doesn't need to do a crazy exponential stud/hole ping search thing
06:48 < FourFire> the pins/holes should be much smaller and an order of magnitude denser at least
06:48 < ThomasEgi> archels, for transmitting some sensordata sure. but not for 60fps full hd video. you need propper electrical interfacing for that
06:49 < kanzure> http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/09/12/introducing-the-qt-webengine/
06:49 < kanzure> they are switching to chromium
06:49 < FourFire> can you do 1080p over USB3.0?
06:49 < kanzure> but..
06:49 < kanzure> "If you use the QObject bridge or the QWebElement API, we recommend you wait a bit longer with moving, as a replacement API for those will most likely not be part of the first version of Qt WebEngine."
06:51 < kanzure> the other downside is that this is still qt
06:51 < kanzure> upside over libwebkitgtk+ is that qtwebkit actuall has pure headless. but it's sitll qt...
06:51 < kanzure> *still
06:51 < kanzure> so conflicted :)
06:52 < ThomasEgi> FourFire, you could. but then you'd need to standardize on it. and your cpu would have to come with usb3 controllers and it would require them to integrate it. and the display controlle would have to be usb3 capable aswell.
06:52 < kanzure> *actually
06:52 < ThomasEgi> not sure about the power consumution of that aswell.
06:52 < FourFire> couldn't the base contain? the controllers
06:53 < FourFire> I dunno I think the problem *looks* solveable, just difficult, not impossible
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06:56 < ThomasEgi> it is solvable, sure. but it requires manufactors to agree on a suited way to connect all the components using one and the same hardware mechanism
06:56 < ThomasEgi> right now, pretty much every component comes with its own bus. for microphones alone there are like 4 differnt standards
06:57 < kanzure> you mean microphones on mobile units have 4 different standards?
06:57 < kanzure> or microphones in general
06:57 < archels> ThomasEgi: it's not infeasible, those pins that they show on their mockups are too crude, but you can buy the necessary connectors for a few cents
06:58 < archels> HDMI, USB3, gigabit ethernet, it's just a few differential pairs
06:59 < ThomasEgi> yeah. the connectors are not the issue.
06:59 < ThomasEgi> the problem is that each chip comes with a different interface.
07:00 < ThomasEgi> and you can't really mix those well. so the chip manufactors would have to agree on an universal interface and incorporate them into their designs.
07:00 < ThomasEgi> then it would work out quite nicely.
07:01 < ThomasEgi> but without that integration. i'd say it just becomes too bulky
07:01 < archels> yeah, it's definitely impractical and fairly non-elegant at the same time
07:03 < kanzure> archels: i dunno if you've noticed, but often i just feed your comments straight into gradstudentbot
07:03 < gradstudentbot> Someone stole my pipette.
07:03 < archels> kanzure: haha
07:03 < ThomasEgi> minipcie may be a sollution. but then , connecting a silly microphone over a pcie bus is overkill.
07:04 < archels> then there's the tetris aspect of finding an optimal distribution of tiles
07:05 < kanzure> you can just call it geometry layout, we wont mind
07:06 < ThomasEgi> the thing is.. if they'd agree on an universal standard. then you could simply buy bricks for whatever and build your own devices at home. not limited to phones. but pretty much everything.
07:17 < FourFire> yeah
07:17 < FourFire> if making everything minipcie solves the other issues then overkill is worth it right?
07:18 < gradstudentbot> I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that.
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07:44 < ThomasEgi> FourFire, well it makes the "simple" components a lot more expensive.
07:46 < ThomasEgi> cause they have to match the specs of the pcie bus. it could be done i guess. if someone were to throw enough money at companies. it may happen
07:46 < ThomasEgi> someone like apple or microsoft. little chance for crowdfounding there , at least if you ask me. but who knows. i'd be all for it
07:46 < ThomasEgi> usb3 doesn't sound half as bad either (power consumtion aside)
07:48 < nalkri> Are you still talking about the lego phone?
07:48 < nalkri> I think targetting a general PDA without worrying about radio network modules might be a useful stepping stone
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07:50 < ThomasEgi> radio modules aren't really that difficult. those can be hooked up to rather lowspeed bus systems.
07:51 < nalkri> no, but they add licensing constraints
07:52 < nalkri> Especially the UHF voice/data bands used for mobile phones
07:52 < nalkri> So I was mostly thinking in terms of separating technical challenges from social ones
07:53 < chris_99> i wonder if you could use a BladeRF as a phone
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09:35 < superkuh> paperbot: http://prl.aps.org/pdf/PRL/v111/i11/e115003
09:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c37f47663a722d9091bb6597452831a.pdf
09:43 < FourFire> AR LARP
09:44 < FourFire> https://www.spaceglasses.com/applicants/254
09:44 < FourFire> not sure if desirable or not...
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09:46 < anannie_> paperbot: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=origin-of-life-on-earth
09:46 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0AThe%20Origin%20of%20Life%20on%20Earth%20.txt
09:47 < anannie_> paperbot: http://ilpubs.stanford.edu:8090/422/
09:47 < nalkri> Egg salad sandwich
09:47 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/cced9b2a9865a61a6f42f3f58d10a06a.txt
09:50 < anannie_> kanzure: Paperbot is failing to get summaries...
09:55 < kanzure> anannie_: post bug reports here, https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues
09:55 < kanzure> anannie_: if you don't post the bug report, i will fail to remember to fix it
09:55 < anannie_> Okay
09:56 < anannie_> Will do
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11:27 < efm> http://www.redpitaya.com
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15:03 < poppingtonic> ping
15:03 < kanzure> pong
15:03 < poppingtonic> what's up?
15:03 < kanzure> reverse engineering DCE/RPC things
15:03 < poppingtonic> i have a random question about semiotics on github
15:04 < kanzure> yes?
15:05 < poppingtonic> it's about the homepage icon. which language is that supposed to be? I've seen  it at a bunch of sites and it made me curious...
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18:34 < skyLotus> hello
18:34 < kanzure> hi.
18:35 < skyLotus> I'm looking for ways I can get involved in diybio
18:36 < kanzure> buy lab equipment for yourself, shun academic labs, become well versed in how to pronounce strange latin names
18:37 < skyLotus> why shun academic labs?
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18:39 < kanzure> skyLotus: because you'll be attracted to them, and that's not diybio
18:39 < kanzure> http://www.sti.nasa.gov/find-sti/#ntrsNews
18:39 < kanzure> "On September 6, 2013, after export control analysis, nearly 138K documents were reloaded to the NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS). This action more than doubles the full-text STI content available from NTRS and represents 75% of the full-text available prior to the NTRS going off-line in March 2013. The STI Program Office, in conjunction with the Export Control Program, will continue to assess the remaining content and release documents ...
18:40 < kanzure> ... deemed publically available."
18:41 < skyLotus> Well maybe I'm not completely into diybio, it doesn't seem like it's really at a stage to do much atm
18:42 < skyLotus> Or at least I'm not at the level to take advantage of what is available with diybio
18:42 < kanzure> yes, you have to learn things on your own.. that's why it's diy. i don't see the disconnect ?
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18:44 < skyLotus> well sure I could understand that, but I don't think diybio should be done for the sake of being diy but instead to get results
18:48 < skyLotus> anyway, I admit I don't really know much so I'm just saying things.
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18:50 < skyLotus> I'm kind of at a loss where to really start to do experiements / projects with biology
18:51 < kanzure> "results" on what
18:51 < kanzure> what are you doing, again?
18:55 < skyLotus> "results" as I used is is pretty theoretical, I'm just saying that as it should be the primary factor. Ideally, I could say that it could mean a way of revolutionizing the biotech / biomedical industry through the use of diybio competing with biotech corporations like was done with the computer/electric industry...but as I said I don't really think it's at a stage to do something like
18:55 < skyLotus> that and even if it were, I'm not at any stage to be able to help unless I learn a lot more than I already know
18:58 < skyLotus> I am curious about how biology can be used to improve health and medicine, but i really am looking for ways to start experiementing and getting a better understanding of the field and what I can do - and really I don't care about the means of how I get there.. I'm just interested in how I can learn effectively
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19:02 < skyLotus> so... yeah here I am
19:04 < yashgaroth> textbooks
19:04 < justanotheruser> hello
19:05 < wallmani> skyLotus: are you a student in university?
19:05 < skyLotus> I am
19:05 < wallmani> what are your plans for this semester?
19:07 < skyLotus> I'm taking some general science and math courses
19:09 < skyLotus> I'm not really far into my schooling yet, but I want to start doing something on the side now so I know what I'm getting into and to see how to get more involved
19:10 < skyLotus> I think it's best to be off to a good start from the beginning than later
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19:17 < wallmani> skyLotus: that is true, and i'd recommend trying to get involved in some research laboratory
19:19 < kanzure> that's what i told him not to do
19:19 < kanzure> that's ont diy
19:19 < kanzure> *not
19:22 < skyLotus> yes but don't I have to start somewhere?
19:24 < kanzure> yes, try the middle
19:24 < kanzure> skyLotus: btw here's some things http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq
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19:36 < heath> don't click: http://exclusiverewards.gameccc.com/?sov=173652&hid=dljhhlhfpjhrdvpj&&&id=cGiveaways2
19:36  * heath isn't sure where that came from
19:37 < heath> popped up in chrome
19:37 < heath> chromium*
19:38 < heath> last visited site: http://haskell-distributed.github.io/documentation.html
19:38 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, I'm a 4th year. No wait, I'm a 6th year.
19:38 < heath> the others are all snapframework.com
19:38 < heath> oh well
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20:41 < Tuxedage> Oh wow. This exists.
20:41 < Tuxedage> I know like so many people in here.
20:41 < Tuxedage> How have I not heard of this channel before
20:41 < Tuxedage> Oh well.
20:43 < n_bentha> welcome
20:43 < Tuxedage> Thanks!
20:47 < n_bentha> most r awake during usa 9-5 hrs
20:47 < n_bentha> so that's whay it's a bit dead right now
20:47  * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 
20:47 < brownies> gradstudentbot: wake up! get back to work!
20:47 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, it's significant.
20:48 < sbaugh> the sleeping mumblings of a gradstudent
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21:02 < kanzure> it's not dead, we're just waiting.
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21:24 < heath> i'm not dead, just boring
21:25  * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 
21:25 < gradstudentbot> I am busy doing science, go away.
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22:05 < Burninate> http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/65685-infrared-vision-through-supplementation-and-diet-restriction-34-dehydroretinol/
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22:58 < juri_> someone print me new hands.
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23:36 < justanotheruser> Is there any neat open hardware being developed by h++ people?
23:38 < entelechios> justanotheruser: you write web code?
23:38 < entelechios> oh wait hardware
23:38 < entelechios> sorry i got mixed up there
23:41 < justanotheruser> entelechios: not professionally
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23:41 < entelechios> yeah hmm good question
23:41 < entelechios> i'd be willing to bet there is
23:42 < entelechios> those tDCS device schematics floating around are worth a laugh or two
23:42 < entelechios> tCDS **
23:42 < entelechios> tDCS? tDCS. sheesh.
23:43 < entelechios> these goons
23:43 < entelechios> http://flowstateengaged.com/
23:43 < entelechios> ah, looks like they sold out after rethinking encouraging everyone to zap their brains a little. figures
23:44 < entelechios> ah
23:44 < entelechios> http://flowstateengaged.com/img/kickstarter-images/public-schematic.pdf
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