--- Log opened Tue Sep 17 00:00:28 2013 00:05 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:11 < kanzure> brlcad/python wrappers coming along nicely 00:12 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:32 -!- SolG [~Sol@174.57.58.11] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- _Sol_ [~Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:48 -!- chidori is now known as chido 01:12 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:56 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@63.142.161.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:10 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@50.121.14.126] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:21 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:47 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:53 -!- augur_ [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@50.121.14.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 243 seconds] 03:10 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-150.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:30 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:51 -!- ryankarason [~rak@108-245-58-182.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:56 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.123.190] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:24 < pasky> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2637.html 04:24 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmeth.2637 04:27 < pasky> hmm that link is weird, it returns just 206 Partial content 04:46 -!- UricElf [~ammotins@c-107-4-148-59.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:57 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:02 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:03 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:11 -!- sivoais_ is now known as sivoais 05:11 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Changing host] 05:11 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:21 -!- UricElf is now known as BengalsWin 05:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 05:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:39 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ 05:39 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/554773dc1608d215f9289fe06d475ab8.txt 05:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.123.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@63.142.161.6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 -!- SolG is now known as _sol_ 06:15 < poppingtonic> ping 06:34 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:58 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:00 < pasky> poppingtonic: that won't be too helpful though, will it? 07:09 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:19 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 < heath> https://github.com/stephencelis/ghi 07:41 -!- cogitokat [~kat@ip70-171-0-190.ga.at.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:04 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:13 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:32 -!- kyknos [jfriedl@nat/novell/x-ulxkbvdtcrzqliym] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 < kyknos> paperbot, http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2637.html 08:37 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmeth.2637 08:38 -!- Jenda` [~dastych@dekatron.hrach.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:40 < kanzure> kyknos: hi 08:40 < kanzure> Jenda`: don't i know you too 08:40 < kanzure> wait you're all from that hacker country 08:41 < Jenda`> kanzure: I'm from the same hackerspace as pasky and chido are :) 08:41 < Jenda`> and kyknos too 08:41 < kyknos> kanzure, hi 08:42 < pasky> I've mentioned the channel on our biolab channel :) 08:42 < pasky> and yay, paperbot or rather libgen got its act together now \o/ 08:45 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@ool-44c01f50.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:50 -!- marciogm [~textual@186-210-018-238.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 < kyknos> seems like an interesting place 08:55 < blueskin> >that hacker country 08:55 < blueskin> define? 08:58 < kanzure> czech republic 09:03 < poppingtonic> Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong 09:09 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 < nalkri> poppingtonic: Diamond Age? 09:38 < anannie> paperbot: http://lawfam.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/3/307.short 09:38 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Flawfam%2F12.3.307 09:48 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@ool-44c01f50.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:11 * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 10:11 < gradstudentbot> Why aren't you doing science right now? 10:11 < kanzure> http://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/10/every-day-i-learn-something-new-and-stupid/ 10:11 < kanzure> javascript doesn't have ints 10:20 < ParahSai1in> but thats ok, since ints up to 2^51 or something can be represented as doubles 10:35 -!- efm is now known as efm_ 10:35 -!- efm_ is now known as efm 11:18 < ParahSai1in> what the hell? ncbi's standard format for sequence reads is specified only by their SRA toolkit source code? 11:18 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:19 < ParahSai1in> wow, "Guys from NCBI said me that they don't give this documentation anybody. And if you want to use the SRA format then you need to use their API." 11:19 < ParahSai1in> the program to convert this .sra file to fastq is hideously slow 11:19 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:20 < kanzure> haha 11:20 < kanzure> great 11:20 < ParahSai1in> for comparison, extraction to fastq from .sra is about 50x slower than BWA mapping 11:20 < ParahSai1in> which makes it about 1000x slower than gunzip 11:20 < kanzure> time to write a paper.. i mean a haskell thing. 11:21 < ParahSai1in> what, reverse engineer sra format? 11:21 < kanzure> some alternative 11:22 < ParahSai1in> http://seqanswers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-12054.html 11:23 < ParahSai1in> and apparently this file format is unsupported now because of budget cuts 11:23 < ParahSai1in> but it is the required submission format 11:24 < gradstudentbot> Wow, I'm definitely not including this data in the paper. 11:28 < ParahSai1in> kanzure: there is an alternative, fastq.gz or bam 11:30 < ParahSai1in> paperbot: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0059190 11:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/601fca0556ee72dd6ab1e27fcd9292a8.txt 11:32 < kanzure> wow it's failing on plosone 11:32 < kanzure> what the hell? 11:33 -!- efm is now known as efm_ 11:35 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:40 -!- devrando1 is now known as devrandom 11:41 < entelechios> http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0059190&representation=PDF 11:41 < entelechios> seems they switched their stuff around a bit 11:41 < entelechios> from what i recall 11:42 < kanzure> i haven't updated zotero-translators in paperbot in a while, so maybe it's time for a version bump 11:46 < kanzure> https://github.com/blog/1633-3d-file-diffs 11:47 < kanzure> "Also available is the revision slider, which lets you transition between the current version of the file, and the previous one with a small slider at the top of the viewer." 11:47 < entelechios> paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347213003060 11:47 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bf49990e17829815d3546392e321c769.pdf 11:47 < kanzure> "This is done using csgtool, a C library paired with a Ruby gem via FFI." 11:47 < entelechios> Metabolic rate and body size are linked with perception of temporal 11:47 < entelechios> information 11:47 < kanzure> https://github.com/sshirokov/csgtool 11:47 < entelechios> (smaller you are the slower you perceive time) 11:47 < kanzure> https://help.github.com/articles/3d-file-viewer 11:48 < kanzure> takes a while for their stl pages to load though 11:48 < kanzure> https://github.com/carlosgs/Cyclone-PCB-Factory/commit/d389a67ab2cc1d63ec1a38f5e60f20e2f9643247 11:48 < entelechios> wow that CAD diff stuff is awesome 11:49 < ParahSai1in> plosone is not though zotero 11:50 < kanzure> zotero must have a plosone scraper, there's no way they skipped that 11:50 < gradstudentbot> Someone's sitting at my bench space. 11:51 < entelechios> i'm incredibly surprised at how performant this is on firefox in linux 11:51 < entelechios> a lotta 3d crap in the browser will crash for me in these circumstances 11:51 < entelechios> but this is running more smoothly than, like, standalone programs such as structure synth on this crappy box 11:52 < kanzure> i think this might be the one that is just a bunch of png files they generate 11:52 < entelechios> yes 11:52 < entelechios> eg 11:52 < entelechios> not pasting that oh god 11:52 < entelechios> that's an entire base64 or w/e encoded PNG in my address bar there 11:52 < entelechios> hahahahaha 11:53 < entelechios> data:image/png;base64, 11:53 < entelechios> and then the encoded png 11:53 < entelechios> when i view image 11:53 < entelechios> that's still pretty impressive rendering 11:53 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:54 < entelechios> often i gotta bust out chromium to get 3d stuff working proper in the browser 11:56 < kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6400895 11:56 < kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5519676 11:57 < entelechios> ah so you suggested this ages ago? 11:57 < entelechios> right on 11:57 < kanzure> i built it ages ago and then i stopped caring 11:57 < kanzure> committing stl files to a git repo is a sin, it's like committing build objcets 11:58 < kanzure> *objects 11:58 < entelechios> someone else pick up on your work then? 11:58 < kanzure> nah, lots of people doing similar things 11:58 < entelechios> oh yeah i couldn't picture that repo staying small. 11:58 < entelechios> people toss around gajiggabytes like pinata candy 12:23 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:38 -!- nalkri` [~user@217.155.101.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:39 -!- nalkri` [~user@217.155.101.22] has quit [Changing host] 12:39 -!- nalkri` [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:39 -!- nalkri [~user@unaffiliated/elench] has quit [Killed (rajaniemi.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:39 -!- nalkri` is now known as nalkri 12:55 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-150.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 < ParahSai1in> "2013-09-17T19:30:05 fastq-dump.2.3.3 err: table incorrect while opening manager within database module - failed /data2/NCBI-SRA/sra/sra-instant/reads/ByExp/sra/ERX/ERX171/ERX171672/ERR196983/ERR196983.sra" 13:05 -!- entelechios is now known as RichardoStallman 13:05 -!- RichardoStallman is now known as entelechios 13:05 < ParahSai1in> what? a bug in an undocumented file format and toolkit api for it? 13:05 < ParahSai1in> who would have ever guessed 13:06 < jrayhawk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oie1ZXWceqM 13:06 < jrayhawk> !title 13:06 < jrayhawk> fffff 13:12 < kanzure> .title 13:12 < yoleaux> 3-Sweep: Extracting Editable Objects from a Single Photo, SIGGRAPH ASIA 2013 - YouTube 13:12 < jrayhawk> that's the one 13:12 < jrayhawk> technology is hard 13:12 < kanzure> that's okay hawkbot you will understand computers eventually 13:47 < entelechios> that's so cool jrayhawk 13:59 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- efm_ is now known as efm 14:02 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:04 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:08 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:25 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30 < poppingtonic> nalkri: No. Snow Crash. 14:30 < nalkri> Oh right, close 14:32 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v7/n5/full/nphys1915.html 14:32 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnphys1915 14:40 < poppingtonic> I'd forgotten all of the Phyles in The Diamond Age at the time, unfortunately. 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away from me for ~1+week(s) 23:34 < justanotheruser1> heath: do you know how to work paperbot 23:34 < heath> leave out the peroid 23:34 < heath> or just add the link 23:34 < heath> e.g. 23:34 < heath> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf 23:34 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x.pdf 23:35 < justanotheruser1> paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf 23:35 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x.pdf 23:35 < justanotheruser1> ok thanks 23:35 < heath> yw 23:35 < justanotheruser1> can paperbot ever not find it 23:36 -!- anannie [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/anannie] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:37 < heath> justanotheruser1: yes --- Log closed Wed Sep 18 00:00:29 2013