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04:25 < Tukotih_> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.20145/abstract
04:26 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9f63b1bad2a3f8b5256ab8b2129e2829.txt
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08:58 <@kanzure> bleep bloop
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08:59 < ParahSailin> blorp
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14:14 <@kanzure> this is a surprisingly okay list of reasons http://hackaday.com/2013/05/06/the-first-3d-printed-gun-has-been-fired-and-i-dont-care/
14:14 <@kanzure> i would have expected more BS
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16:36 < ashleywaffle> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bitcoin-dark-wallet
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19:51 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: sup
19:52 < yashgaroth> logs've been giving me a 403 for the past few days
19:52 <@kanzure> yeah we got linked in the news
19:52 < yashgaroth> say whaaat
19:53 <@kanzure> nsh has been accused of hacking "thousands of military networks"
19:53 <@kanzure> and then they link straight to these logs "about biohacking"
19:54 <@kanzure> figured it would be prudent to disable that for a day or two
19:54 < yashgaroth> link to article?
19:54 <@kanzure> http://rt.com/usa/lauri-love-anonymous-lastresort-853/
19:55 <@kanzure> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/us-briton-hacking-charges-nasa-lauri-love
19:57 < yashgaroth> dang
19:58 <@kanzure> i don't think it's really true though. there's a lot of weird inconsistencies in their claims.
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20:11 < yashgaroth> well I guess they wouldn't publish methods on how they got the chatlogs or PMs or whatever, but the only actual evidence I see cited is that an 'internet domain' that he paid for with a paypal linked to his public email was used for hax
20:12 <@kanzure> which seems suspicious to me if he was actually using tor
20:13 < yashgaroth> a literally unbelievably stupid move
20:13 < yashgaroth> not to mention 'changed his nickname on IRC', like that dude who kept coming in last week with the same IP and bugging paperbot
20:15 <@kanzure> yeah, nsh isn't known for doing stupid things like that
20:24 <@kanzure> also i have found a fairly accurate video that describes how transcranial ultrasound works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjVN13dI10
20:28 < yashgaroth> apparently 'microconcussion' is not a word
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23:31 < dingo> total recall is playing on TBS
23:31 < dingo> i think this was a PKD novel
23:31 < dingo> biohacking related though right :-)
23:31 < dingo> hehe
23:31 < nmz787> you're rght it was PKD's
23:31 < nmz787> just finished Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
23:33 < dingo> oh thats a great book
23:33 < nmz787> it seemed like an oversight that they had hovercars, but no cell phones.
23:33 < dingo> hehe
23:33 < dingo> it was written in maybe 1980 or so
23:34 < dingo> i think what i really liked about that book is the personality
23:34 < nmz787> 1968 first published
23:34 < nmz787> but still radio had been around since the turn of the century
23:34 < dingo> i dont read a lot of PKD, maybe only 4 or 5 of his books all the way through
23:34 < dingo> 2 of them i couldn't even finish
23:34 < dingo> they were just too abstract
23:34 < nmz787> hmm
23:34 < nmz787> this has been my only
23:34 < dingo> but that one really sold me
23:34 < nmz787> having to read Oryx and Crake now
23:35 < nmz787> also starts with bio weirdness
23:35 < dingo> had to google that one, never heard of it
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23:36 < dingo> hmm i may have read at least one of her other works though
23:36 < dingo> i recently went through some 1980's sci fi collections
23:37 < nmz787> i'm in a scifi lit class now
23:37 < dingo> usually i read 1970's and older
23:37 < nmz787> fit the requirement for a class i need to get my degree
23:37 < dingo> wow thats one class i wouldn't drop out of hehe
23:37 < nmz787> lol
23:37 < nmz787> we last read brave new world
23:37 < nmz787> which also lacked cell phones
23:38 < dingo> bah i didn't like that one at all
23:38 < nmz787> it was only dystopian because of the culture, I didn't really see any blame in their tech
23:38 < dingo> i dunno why, maybe i was too young, like 16, when i read it
23:39 < dingo> i do like dystopian future books
23:39 < dingo> or movies for that matter
23:39 < dingo> it seemed pop-culture-centric
23:40 < dingo> never was a fan of that, in the future or the present
23:40 < nmz787> hah, that's what made it dystopian for me!
23:41 < dingo> sometimes i read cliff notes or some such afterwards and go wow maybe it -was- a good book hahaha
23:41 < dingo> the internet has really spoiled good reading
23:41 < nmz787> lol
23:41 < nmz787> i have the audio books for 3 of 4 req readings for this class
23:41 < dingo> i like dune by frank herbert and foundation series by asimov for their length
23:41 < nmz787> first two were highly abridged though, so glad i read along
23:41 < dingo> i worked at a factory when i read those books
23:42 < dingo> really nice to have hundreds of pages of good story to daydream about during the day
23:42 < nmz787> haven't read them, closest I've come to dune is watching Beetlejuice (there was a scene with sand worms, I think referencing dune)
23:42 < dingo> ha never thought of that, but yeah
23:42 < dingo> dune is very spiritual, almost muslim-inspired
23:42 < nmz787> hmm
23:42 < dingo> very weird stuff, but great storyline
23:43 < dingo> political stuff worth paying attention to
23:43 < dingo> foundation series has this great premise, that there is some mathematical way of predicting future possibilities, some new kind of scientific math or some such
23:43 < dingo> i forget what they called it, psychometrics or something
23:44 < dingo> there becomes some hidden race of ppl who just carefully adjust the timeline now and then for good outcomes
23:44 < dingo> then part-way through the series, a 'mutant' is born, something unpredictable, fucks it all up
23:44 < dingo> anyway its long as hell lol
23:45 < dingo> when i first saw it i was like i'll never finish this
23:45 < dingo> but i couldn't put it down for some reason
23:45 < nmz787> hah, the kind of book you read walking down the street despite just running into a telephone pole because of not watching out.
23:46 < nmz787> i was reading my phone walking the other day and freaked myself out, thinking i was about to walk into a pole
23:46 < nmz787> turned out to be air.
23:46 < dingo> ha
23:46 < dingo> if you can find the hugo award winners and nebula award winners volumes you won't be dissapointed
23:47 < dingo> sometimes i think they awarded some folk just for writing very very very strange stories, that aren't very good, but just because they wanted to encourage 'pushing the boundires', like harlan ellison
23:47 < dingo> but 90% of them are great, and they're short novels/short stories, so they're usually finishable within a night
23:47 < dingo> they also had awards for full-length novels, but you won't find them in a single book
23:48 < dingo> i used to have all of analog science fiction & science fact, 1969-1988, i recently donated that all away to the library, i miss them even though i read them all, they were monthly subscription magazintes of science fiction
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23:48 < dingo> man i love science fiction hehe
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23:49 < dingo> was just talking to a coworker and he recommended some for me to read... thinking bout getting my library card here and reading more
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23:49 < nmz787> I am on the fence as to whether I like reading fiction anymore
23:49 < dingo> its just nice to have something interesting to excersize your thoughts with
23:49 < dingo> oh i was completely against reading ficiton for a long time
23:50 < dingo> i read only strictly scientific or technical books for a long time
23:50 < nmz787> watching it I'm more OK with because I can zone out and do other computer stuff if I get bored... or if my girlfriend is wanting to watch something more than I do
23:50 < dingo> science fiction is the only fiction i read hehe
23:50 < dingo> i think its healthy
23:51 < nmz787> there was someone in another IRC room that was writing some scifi, gave them some links to real science stuff that they were trying to create in their story
23:51 < dingo> its given me new, interesting perspectives on things in this world, its helped matured my morals, ego, thoughts, etc.
23:51 < nmz787> i guess the links I gave them didn't fit exactly their creature, but they were pretty good for realistic/plausible evolutionary starting points
23:52 < nmz787> thinking about morals is an interesting way I've also looked at it
23:53 < dingo> the best science fiction stretches concepts found in this world, twists them around in some alternate reality, but makes you realize something new and different about this seemingly normal world we're in
23:54 < dingo> simple things like racism among creatures, you can understand it much more clearly when neither are human
23:54 < nmz787> yeah
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