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10:31 < juri_> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1051/jp4:1993380
10:31 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/82adb2ba7c021cb2a5699fd8ef85e5d0.txt
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10:35 < juri_> kliment: know anyone doing diamond like carbon deposition?
10:35 < kanzure> wrong channel for kliment
10:38 < ThomasEgi> juri_, like for growing diamonds, or graphit?
10:40 < juri_> er. sorry. :)
10:40 < juri_> i meant kanzure. :P
10:41 < juri_> Thomas: im looking to use it as an electrical insulator, but a thermal conductor on a hot end for a 3d printer. looking at deposition methods now.
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11:03 < ThomasEgi> juri_, i'd suggest aluminum with an thick oxid layer
11:04 < juri_> that's what we're starting with.
11:04 < ThomasEgi> growing diamonds is possible using microwaves and i think it was methane gas.
11:04 < ThomasEgi> but.. it is a very slow process, and requires a lot of electricity.
11:05 < ThomasEgi> and you end up with polycristaline diamonds.
11:05 < juri_> yea, thats the process we're looking at now.
11:05 < ThomasEgi> which are virtually impossible to tool/cut/drill
11:05 < ThomasEgi> i had the luck to see the growing process , and also had the chance to try scratching one of those diamond plates.. forget it.
11:06 < ThomasEgi> unles you have a laser to cut it, not worth the effort.
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11:07 < ThomasEgi> aluminum with good coating should work. well.
11:07 < juri_> we're re-engineering parts of our prototype, and whatever the last engineer used to insulate the aluminium oxide didn't do the job.
11:08 < ThomasEgi> i'd recommend diamonds only for very special applications. like high power lasers where you have a tiny tiny source of heat. and even there you'd only use a small piece of diamond to distribute the heat to a chepaer aluminum or copper heatshield
11:08 < ThomasEgi> juri_, maybe it got scretched or so?
11:09 < juri_> we're basically working through two known defects in our hot end, and both of them have to do with failures in the lectrical isolation.
11:09 < ThomasEgi> how about silicones?
11:09 < juri_> it probably did. hense, why i want a thin layer of diamond, to prevent that.
11:10 < juri_> too high temperature. the low end of our target is 350C.
11:10 < juri_> we might end up tossing out the aluminium block completely... so that we can print aluminium.
11:10 < ThomasEgi> aren't there silicones for high temperatures? i am pretty sure that's what used for thermo element wire insulation
11:11 < juri_> thats further down the line tho. right now, we've got an aluminium sink, and we're shorting across it. its been a problem in both of our prototypes, so i'm hoping we can solve it with a DLC coating.
11:13 < ThomasEgi> how about keramics?
11:13 < juri_> we need high thermal conductivity. the higher, the better our control system will work.
11:15 < ThomasEgi> aluminum nitride maybe?
11:15 < juri_> reading about it now.
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11:16 < ThomasEgi> iirc it's thermal conductivity is even above pure aluminum
11:17 < ThomasEgi> and stable up to quite high temperatures.
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12:07 < superkuh> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627312005703 - This free full text article is about a small molecule compound that can interact with non-photoreceptive retinal neurons to give photo-receptivity for UV (with cornea replacement) and blue light (unaltered). Tested with mice.
12:09 < kanzure> is this a membrane-bound molecule?
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12:10 < kanzure> "AAQ is a small molecule K+ channel photoswitch that can exist in both a cis and trans form. The trans form of AAQ binds to cellular K+ channels, blocking the flow of K+ ions, thereby increasing neuronal excitability. In the presence of short wavelength (380 nm) light, AAQ is photoisomerized to the cis form, abrogating its inhibitory effects and decreasing neuronal excitability. The relaxation from cis back to trans is characterized by ...
12:10 < kanzure> ... relatively slow kinetics but occurs much more rapidly upon exposure to longer wavelength (500 nm; green) light. Thus, upon incubation with AAQ, individual neurons can be specifically and rapidly activated and inactivated by exposure to 500 nm and 380 nm light, respectively (Figure 1B)."
12:12 < kanzure> this neuron type fires when potassium flow is blocked? what if it's at equilibrium?
12:14 < superkuh> It's an inhibiting the inhibitor thing.
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14:05 < kanzure> "The Ross Ulbricht Legal Defense Fund LLC"
14:05 < kanzure> aka the "Dread Pirate Roberts Legal Defense Fund LLC" hah
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14:43 < nmz787> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/prosthesis-the-anti-robot
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14:45 < nmz787> I wonder how efficiently it captures UV though, doubt its 100%... seems like scintillator contact lenses would be safer
14:46 < superkuh> I am primarily interested because I have retinal deterioration and am likely to have detachment soon.
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14:47 < nmz787> can they glue that?
14:48 < nmz787> back on
14:48 < superkuh> Yes. I almost had preemptive laser 'tack welding'. But if it happens while I am asleep or something the tissue would die.
14:49 < superkuh> And even if they re-attach it physically it doesn't stop the degradation.
14:50 < nmz787> so you think you could just get away with crappier resolution by making the neural tissue behind it light-sensitive?
14:50 < superkuh> Better than nothing.
14:50 < nmz787> there's no telling the neurons are in the same physical location as retina pixels
14:51 < nmz787> i wonder if you'd be able to re-map
14:51 < nmz787> there's also this which you could start using sooner than later http://www.wicab.com/
14:51 < nmz787> I met one of the main med drs who was using/designing it
14:52 < nmz787> seems like the issue comes down to something like GPIO MUXing
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14:57 < nmz787> not sure how you'd gain resolution with the tongue sensor type stimulation
14:58 < chris_99> i saw some video where a dude was rock climbing with one of them
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15:13 < nmz787> this is a great idea http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.5436.pdf
15:13 < nmz787> .title
15:14 < nmz787> 'Lightningtriggered electroporation and electrofusion as possible contributors to natural HGT among prokaryotes'
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15:18 < nmz787> http://makezine.com/2013/11/09/make-sense-of-3d-objects/
15:18 < nmz787> $399 3D scanner
15:19 < nmz787> supposedly available at Staple 2 days ago
15:19 < nmz787> basically a kinect-like sensor, but software is all automated
15:19 < nmz787> you just copy an stl or ply output
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15:39 < kanzure> "That idea is the opposite of an open-access competitor ofwhich Marincola was previously chair: eLife, an elite journal funded with more than £15 million (US$24 million) from the Wellcome Trust in London, the Max Planck Society in Munich, Germany, and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute in Chevy Chase, Maryland. “Their appeal is that there is quality inferred from the brand,” notes Marincola."
15:39 < kanzure> why are journals raising that much venture capital?
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23:12 < kanzure> "A better approach might be translating them into more uniform s-expressions. Mathematica does this. You can also check out a similar approach in Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics where tensor expressions are reduced to scheme expressions."
23:16 < kanzure> ParahSailin: you around?
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