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01:42 < Tukotih_> Sharelatex is really nice
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12:50 < jrayhawk_> Also Gitit and potentially Ikiwiki.
12:51 < kanzure> at this point i dunno if people mean "git-backed" or "some startup company that is growing just like github" when they say "github for x"
12:52 < jrayhawk_> people who mean the latter deserve to have their question misanswered
12:53 < kanzure> alright
12:54 < nalkri> They also sometimes mean ‘generally easy to get way of uploading your data in a sharable way’
12:54 < Qfwfq> Do there exist (presumably domain-specific) git-backed services better than Github?
12:54 < kanzure> that's surprising, because most people who make the mistake of asking poor questions don't usually consider git to be easy
12:55 < nalkri> Sure, my server on my home network is better than Github :þ
12:55 < nalkri> For given values of better
12:55 < kanzure> Qfwfq: cubehero seems to handle stl a little bit better, but whatever
12:56 < Qfwfq> https://cubehero.com/
12:56 < jrayhawk_> oh hey, didn't know about that. that's cool.
12:57 < kanzure> it's less cool than you might think. the owner is obsessed with openscad. :(
12:57 < kanzure> why does nobody believe in separate of concerns when it comes to cad programming
12:57 < kanzure> *separation
12:59 < kanzure> and hte other alternative on cubehero seems to be "upload stl files in git repos", but that's like uploading compiled build objects
13:00 < jrayhawk_> didn't you have rendering hooks for other formats?
13:00 < jrayhawk_> you could offer them
13:00 < kanzure> i believe i did offer them to im
13:00 < kanzure> *him
13:00 < jrayhawk_> ah
13:01 < kanzure> i had openscad and stl and then some step stuff, but i never installed the dependencies for step/iges rendering
13:02 < kanzure> i think the idea of source code to generate geometries is correct, but it's unfortunate that openscad couples a gui toolkit with a custom language and then the geometry stuff under the hood.
13:03 < kanzure> i think step/iges suffers from similar problems as stl (but not as much), like if you define a surface in a step file you're sort of stuck with it
13:04 < kanzure> oh wait, you can jiggle nurbs parameters like knots i think
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13:54 < abetusk> kanzure, would you be satisfied if there were a headless openscad compiler?
13:57 < kanzure> not really, why does there have to be a custom language?
13:57 < kanzure> why not just make bindings to existing languages
13:58 < abetusk> how're those brlcad python bindings coming?
13:58 < kanzure> needs more users to help test them out
13:58 < kanzure> the bindings get generated but there's a few failure modes that i haven't identified
13:59 < kanzure> but also, i expect that some simplified modeling layer on top of python-brlcad is necessary because of the unfortunately large amount of symbols that ctypesgen dumps on you
14:01 < kanzure> resasons that extra layer is required is because nothing operates like you would expect it to operate in python land. you have to pass ctypes-constructed pointers around sometimes and other non-obvious things.
14:05 < ParahSailin> too hard to go the cython way?
14:07 < kanzure> there were a number of problems with the cython way, but then a blocker related to running cython during a post-install script i think
14:07 < kanzure> the bindings generated by ctypesgen in python-brlcad are currently working, so i'm fairly happy with it
14:07 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad
14:08 < abetusk> Anyway, this is why I think brlcad hasn't caught on...
14:09 < kanzure> hm?
14:09 < ParahSailin> tell that to the folks in astan getting shot with brlcad designed tanks
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14:36 < frege> paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/6492338_Review_of_over-the-counter_topical_scar_treatment_products
14:36 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/94d40441124dc73d9e4a402f026d87ca.txt
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14:36 < frege> how can I get the paper?
14:36 < frege> paperbot: Review of over-the-counter topical scar treatment products
14:37 < EnLilaSko> paperbot is partially "broken", so can't fetch everything
14:37 < EnLilaSko> Post to /r/shcolar
14:37 < EnLilaSko> I mean /r/scholar
14:38 < EnLilaSko> http://drsnijman.co.za/includes/Scar%20therapy.pdf?origin=publication_detail
14:38 < frege> EnLilaSko: why is it broken?
14:38 < frege> who is in charge of its dev?
14:39 < EnLilaSko> I have no idea
14:39 < EnLilaSko> It's kanzure's bot
14:39 < EnLilaSko> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot#readme
14:41 < frege> oh boy
14:41 < frege> parsing html/xml
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14:41 < frege> whose accounts are being used kanzure ?
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14:47 < ParahSailin> thats on a need to know basis
14:56 < kanzure> frege: it actually uses zotero/translation-server and gecko for most parsing
14:56 < kanzure> frege: the backup parsing inside paperbot is stupid and not worth anyone's time
14:57 < kanzure> frege: it's possible that updating the translators.git submodule would bring some benefits (somewhat-better updated parsers in case any of the target publishers have changed how they present their pdfs)
15:01 < frege> right
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18:38 < bertmy> paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1164865
18:38 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Tough%2C%20Bio-Inspired%20Hybrid%20Materials.pdf
19:21 < kanzure> ugh the "csv programming language" here is annoying http://opentrons.com/
19:21 < kanzure> why do programmers even bother with this.. just use an actual language if you need to make something turing complete.
19:23 < nmz787> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00170-012-4605-2
19:23 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ab74071a217eeec562baff8970be1822.txt
19:27 < ParahSailin> because biologists use excel
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19:28 < nmz787> wtf that paper is in my home dir already on diyhplus
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19:34 < kanzure> ParahSailin: :\
19:35 < ParahSailin> but shit in all seriousness the sorts of recipes you do on a 96 or 384 well plate are bonehead simple, usually just two solutions
19:35 < ParahSailin> or maybe two solutions and a master mix of some sort that goes in everything
19:36 < kanzure> yeah but they have this android app for stringing together cvs files as if it's a programming language
19:36 < kanzure> my point is that this seems a little absurd
19:36 < ParahSailin> oh i didnt see that, i just clicked software and it looks like you put the recipes in tabular format
19:37 < kanzure> maybe i misinterpreted
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