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00:13 < justanotheruser> kanzure: are you looking for a place, or is that a rhetorical question?
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00:27 < kanzure> justanotheruser: someone was asking me, and i didn't know
00:27 < kanzure> justanotheruser: he works for a company that does related activities
00:27 < kanzure> justanotheruser: so he will probably know things that i do not
00:39 < justanotheruser> kanzure: oh, I see. I was curious myself. I think the only way to guarantee anonymity is to get all the testing equipment yourself, the price of which is dropping exponentially.
00:44 < rkos> the oxford nanopore things seemed to be fairly "cheap"
00:45 < rkos> https://www.nanoporetech.com/technology/the-minion-device-a-miniaturised-sensing-system/the-minion-device-a-miniaturised-sensing-system
00:45 < rkos> you can trust these biotech people to call their product "minion"
00:50 < kanzure> i don't think they are shipping it
00:52 < rkos> theyre still in somekind of beta phase that you can apply for
01:02 < kanzure> paperbot: .todo "Developing an Experimental Induction of Flow: Effortless Action in the Lab"
01:04 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811912010762
01:04 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7cbcadb11ea057a8c1f3f3901428d78e.txt
01:04 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811912010762/pdfft?md5=1d6c596262d01dac5045c392b13127b4&pid=1-s2.0-S1053811912010762-main.pdf
01:04 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8b9a4f0d72317a73065d3b6240a28e1a.pdf
01:05 < kanzure> "Specifically, we tested the hypothesis that the availability of dopamine D2-receptors in the striatum is positively associated with flow proneness. Striatal D2-receptor availability was measured in a sample of 25 healthy adults using positron emission tomography and [11C]raclopride. .. As hypothesized, there was a significant correlation (r = .41) between striatal D2-receptor availability and flow proneness. An exploratory analysis of ...
01:05 < kanzure> ... striatal subregions showed that the relation was mainly driven by the dorsal striatum, with a significantly higher correlation in the putamen than in the ventral striatum."
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08:48 < ParahSailin> kanzure: pm
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09:56 < kanzure> thanks
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18:04 < kanzure> beep
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19:23 < delinquentme> is it safe to assume a "properly" methylated cell with minimal damage to the DNA would be good for increasing the health / youth of the body?
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19:38 < delinquentme> drewbug, or top4o ?
19:38 < top4o> top4o
19:38 < top4o> HAHA
19:38 < delinquentme> cool!
19:38 < top4o> oops, haha
19:38 < delinquentme> so yeah these are a number of kids who are working on fighting aging / death + making cool tools to help
19:39 < top4o> It looks great
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19:47 < drewbug> Wait, what about me? :P
19:48 < top4o> whats up drewbug
19:48 < drewbug> I was mentioned, but I don't know why.
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19:58 < kanzure> drewbug: that's often how i feel about most of life
19:59 < drewbug> kanzure: At least you're popular :)
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20:03 < dantespeaks> i ponder if A.I will ask me one day why i didn't learn a programming language and make millions when it still was possible...
20:04 < dantespeaks> and own a A.I of my own instead using a service of sort. Hahaha. Yeah so programming languages are just that useful if you have a motive...
20:06 < dantespeaks> Along those lines id like to ask if SQL injection can be used in such a way keywords of a website can be extracted. And hence copying the business model of a website...
20:09 < dantespeaks> Also thinking about designing a half barrell length of a shotgun that is a revolver and self reloads by the force of firing. Shoots shotgun shells so all objects in close range... they can't be missed. Ie. A vicious dog for example... hard to get with a 9mm.
20:10 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: why would you have to perform a SQL injection to copy a business model of a website? Why would you even want to copy someones business model?
20:10 < dantespeaks> Too fast. Id like to shoot once and forget it in close range... the contents of the shell would be like hundreds of little pieces flying toward the target spread out u will not miss...
20:12 < dantespeaks> By business model i mean keywords. Say you make a clone of a website and copy exactly where they are advertising by use of their keywords...
20:12 < dantespeaks> You become an immediate competition and they can't do much. You've basically stole their market and more importantly, their research.
20:13 < dantespeaks> Well, my theory any way....
20:13 < drewbug> dantespeaks: What do you mean by "keywords"?
20:13 < dantespeaks> If u dont know i don't want to explain basic stuff man...
20:14 < justanotheruser> Seems like it would be cheaper to do market research than to SQL inject website, who's keyword selection may be imperfect.
20:14 < justanotheruser> *whose
20:14 < dantespeaks> Now i want to ask if SQL injection can be used in that manner to find their keywords....
20:14 < drewbug> I just don't see why you'd need to perform an SQL injecting to discover the keywords a site is targeting.
20:16 < dantespeaks> They've filtered out a lot of factors. You can see how much they are paying and the variation of markets they went into by their research...
20:16 < drewbug> *injection
20:17 < drewbug> What database would you be breaking in to?
20:17 < dantespeaks> .that's what I'm asking.
20:17 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: why would their website have a list of keywords they're using in a SQL DB anyways?
20:18 < dantespeaks> Cause i don't know much about it.
20:18 < drewbug> Yeah, exactly.
20:18 < drewbug> Especially on something public-facing.
20:18 < dantespeaks> Ok i get iy
20:18 < dantespeaks> It
20:19 < dantespeaks> But sometimes they do use SQL DB for mass distribution
20:19 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: why would they mass distribute their ad keywords?
20:19 < dantespeaks> ...well at least i think they do...
20:19 < drewbug> Why do you think they do that?
20:19 < dantespeaks> No to rank their content. I'm talking meta tags and keyeord density per page
20:20 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: most ad providers provide such analytics.
20:20 < dantespeaks> Ok i think I'm confused sorry i brought it up
20:20 < justanotheruser> What is your favorite altcoin? I haven't been impressed by the vast majority of them.
20:21 < dantespeaks> Hmm... but i was sharp sniping the competitor in the same market
20:21 < top4o> Wouldnt most of programming be automated or really simplified by then though
20:21 < dantespeaks> Was thinking.
20:21 < dantespeaks> Clone a website, follow their keywords, and steal.
20:21 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: why would someone use a clone?
20:22 < drewbug> Yeah, you'd be late to the party.
20:22 < dantespeaks> And is there a way to extort their adverting search terms...
20:23 < justanotheruser> extort?
20:23 < dantespeaks> Copy is often better than creating new. Market already found. Demographic easily located. Often advertised previously as well.
20:23 < dantespeaks> Steal.
20:23 < dantespeaks> By force.
20:23 < dantespeaks> Speaking in business practice.
20:23 < dantespeaks> By use of tech. Or tool of sort.
20:24 < dantespeaks> Anyways guys sorry i was just curious.
20:24 < ParahSailin> dogecoin
20:26 < top4o> extorting might be illegal
20:26 < dantespeaks> Hope it triggered some ideas in yourselves tooo....
20:27 < dantespeaks> I don't know most internet related activities has their mischievous side/ being illegal.
20:27 < dantespeaks> I mean there is a difference between the two.
20:28 < dantespeaks> Botnet would be illegal whereas... there'd be lighter activities to mess with thr net... keyword stealing? Could be just corporate espionage.
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20:37 < dantespeaks> would it be a waste of time if one were to learn how to play the piano while learning programming (at separate dedicated hours in a day) and science as well? What is a effective way of study? Diversify to stimulate your brain among different ways or focus on one thing and one thinng only until you pretty much master it? (Then move unto the next)
20:38 < dantespeaks> Just asking if anyone has studied like that.
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20:41 < dantespeaks> Nobodyy feeds the troll....
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20:44 < dantespeaks> I sometimes wonder if learning something that is close to a motor skill such as playing an instrument is really a waste of time... i mean in the future those thousands of hours spent learning this can probably be uploaded to your brain instantaneously.
20:47 < dantespeaks> But then again if it contributes to your overall mood/health and recognition and uplifted sense of spirit by expression of the arts... could be worth a while...
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21:02 < dantespeaks> It really sucks i have to write surveys for living. U guys can work as mechanical turks from amazon right being USA ciitizen.
21:03 < dantespeaks> If there is some way to free up my time making cash more easily please let me know...
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21:05 < dantespeaks> If only i can eat roasted chicken every night i would be a happy person...
21:05 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: you could learn a skill you could monetize in the time you take trolling this chatroom.
21:07 < dantespeaks> Ok I'm deciding on which skill. But hard for me to visualize a goal without trolling and asking questions. For example what is the purpose for me to learn django instead rails or python over ruby for that matter. C and c++ for softwares...
21:07 < top4o> learn mongoDB
21:08 < dantespeaks> For me i have to have a specific destination otherwise i lose interest. My goal is to make money over the net and going for science...
21:09 < dantespeaks> Never heard of it i will research.
21:09 < dantespeaks> MongoDB sounds cool.
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21:14 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: doesn't matter what you learn, just learn a language then you will be able to use many other languages easily.
21:16 < dantespeaks> Ok. But seems like a waste of time learning ruby AND python. Both higher level languages but has support in different areas... seems more logical to learn python and maybe c or c++
21:16 < dantespeaks> So I'm trying to figure out whether to learn c or c++ right now...
21:17 < dantespeaks> And it's uses... wuw mongoDB looks cool.
21:19 < rdevilla> dantespeaks: just write some toy projects to build experience
21:19 < rdevilla> top item on hackernews was someone who implemented an HTTP server in assembly, juts because
21:19 < rdevilla> s/juts/just
21:20 < rdevilla> write a chess engine
21:20 < rdevilla> or an Android app that plays the inception sound, idk
21:21 < dantespeaks> In assembly language?! Who writes in that. That's like latin...
21:21 < rdevilla> http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/server.s
21:21 < rdevilla> real wizards do I guess
21:21 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: write a chess engine in c then make it object oriented in c++.
21:22 < rdevilla> yes, a chess engine is a good project
21:22 < dantespeaks> No I'm trying to research and target specific area of programming for my uses. I have to isolate before going further... that sure takes time. Always the top bottom approach for me.
21:22 < rdevilla> dantespeaks: ok what are your uses
21:23 < dantespeaks> Mostly SEO. Server related applications. And Softwares.
21:23 < rdevilla> I think justanotheruser has the right of it
21:24 < rdevilla> programming isn't about the language, it's about the thought process
21:24 < rdevilla> go learn rails
21:24 < rdevilla> or django, doesn't matter
21:24 < dantespeaks> I need some keywords... would my interest be "web framework" ?
21:24 < rdevilla> the ideas will translate over to another framework with some adjustment
21:24 < rdevilla> sure
21:25 < dantespeaks> I see. I needed that. "Its about thought process not the language itself." But then python has so much support for science.
21:25 < rdevilla> then learn it when you need it
21:25 < dantespeaks> I hope to study neuroscience.
21:26 < rdevilla> start somewhere
21:26 < dantespeaks> Im fond of looking at ruby cause it looks so clean and elegant but i fear the lack of support for scientific stuff...
21:26 < rdevilla> why do i bother
21:27 < dantespeaks> Okok i will
21:27 < dantespeaks> Thanks for ur advice.
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