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10:37 < delinquentme> paper http://www.nature.com/ncb/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ncb2894.html
10:37 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.nature.com/ncb/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ncb2894.html
10:38 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fncb2894
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11:04 < drewbug> paperbot
11:04 < drewbug> What are you?
11:04 < kanzure> he's right there
11:04 < drewbug> Not where.
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12:04 < heath> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
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12:40 < kanzure> "fun fact, the original plural name for bitcoin was 'prosecution futures'"
12:48 < Lemminkainen> your definition of fun seems to depend on more levels of detached irony than I am comfortable with, dear kanzure
12:49 < kanzure> just quoting
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12:52 < Lemminkainen> just inferring
12:52 < Lemminkainen> how goes the meat grinding, kanzure ?
12:52 < kanzure> the who?
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14:03 < kanzure> drewbug: it's https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
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16:21 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/security/RSA%20Key%20Extraction%20via%20Low-Bandwidth%20Acoustic%20Cryptanalysis.pdf
16:24 < kanzure> "magic touch attack" so.. kenshin was real.
16:29 < chris_99> attacks like that are pretty mindblowing
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17:40 < juri_> not really. i've always assumed that was obvious.
17:41 < juri_> aparently, i should go into security 'research'.
17:41 < chris_99> heh, if it was obvious why didn't you implment it
17:41 < juri_> i don't need to.
17:41 < chris_99> right
17:42 < juri_> i've been hired to break into customer gear before. you don't go for the really hard hacks, when you can just grab the source of what they use, find a bug, and go to town.
17:42 < chris_99> ah that sounds boring
17:42 < chris_99> though
17:42 < juri_> (i LOVES me some linux device driver layer!)
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17:46 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/131217/srep03514/full/srep03514.html
17:46 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fsrep03514
17:46 < juri_> 'use the source' is fun. 'use the binaries' is painful and requires more tools, but worth it. just ask the right questions, and it all comes spilling out.
17:49 < kanzure> i don't see what any of that has to do with acoustic sidechannel attacks being obvious
17:49 < chris_99> no idea also
17:50 < kanzure> juri_: i think reading all that spaghetti code might be killing you on the inside
17:50 < chris_99> heh
17:53 < juri_> kanzure: magento.
17:53 < juri_> thats my project of the week. i'd like to burn down ebay now.
17:54 < juri_> it is my definition of bad corporate project. ALL of the comments are gone.
17:55 < kanzure> have you considered not accepting work on magento projects?
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18:52 < juri_> kanzure: i'm not in the economic bracket that gets to pick what open source softwares i get to work on.
18:52 < juri_> have you considered paying me to work on stuff you care about? ;P
18:52 < juri_> this process has been a learning one, for both the sales/marketing guy i'm partnered with, and myself.
18:53 < juri_> i've honestly never tried to work on a codebase this broken. and when you consider what i maintain, that should shock and awe you.
18:54 < kanzure> yes i've considered it
18:54 < kanzure> but i didn't reach any conclusions so it is essentially worthless to report
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18:59  * juri_ nods.
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18:59 < juri_> well, at least there's that much. thanks for the thought.
18:59 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
19:00 < juri_> i'm really disapointed in this magento project. the main product is so poor, i could never advise someone to use it.
19:00 < juri_> which means i'm currently writing software that i advise no-one use. not a happy place to be, as a free software developer.
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