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[~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Changing host] 11:17 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:43 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:46 < Burninate> nice try ##hplusroadmap 11:46 < Burninate> Send us better trolls next time. 11:47 < nsh> i'll troll you good! 11:48 < Burninate> Are you saying you would like to have a fact-free discussion? yes 11:48 < Burninate> ... why? 11:48 < Burninate> i wouldnt trust your facts regardless 11:48 < rkos__> are we gonna continue here? 11:49 < Burninate> No, I'm going to mock you once, see who bites, and then settle down. 11:49 < nsh> try settling clockwise 11:49 < aelinoea> fact free discussion? oh yeah! ##religion ! 11:49 < rkos__> y'all been missing out not being brought up in the corners of the internet where people are free to speak 11:49 < Burninate> As far as trolling goes, it was subpar - rather than attacking evidence-based debate, you could have done so much with the topic (the existence of psychopathy) 11:50 < rkos__> its not trolling 11:50 < nsh> *trawling 11:50 < nsh> trolling is what you do with a boat to catch shrimp 11:50 < rkos__> its called being a human being instead of a collectivized irc bot 11:50 < rkos__> you little psychopaths 11:50 * nsh wonders how bots get colectivized 11:50 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:51 < Burninate> Long Live The Bot Internationale! 11:51 < rkos__> minds of people in these irc crackhouses get collectivized easily 11:51 < nsh> is a collectivized mind necessarily administered by a central commmittee? 11:51 < nsh> or can there be some kind of executive timeshare system? 11:51 < rkos__> just unconscious ideology 11:51 < Burninate> you jest, and yet... 11:52 < rkos__> but lets not talk about that here or theyll ban me here too 11:52 < nsh> theyre too busy stealing all our apostrophes 11:52 < nsh> the bastards... 11:52 < rkos__> only engineering talk allowed here which i can appreciate 11:52 < Burninate> that was actually my issue with #lesswrong on the first day; The moderator was a bot operated by an anonymous shift worker 11:52 < Burninate> Then we shifted to a bit more consensus-oriented moderation 11:52 < rkos__> but on that philosophy channel i thought i was allowed to express my ideas without going through some academic filter 11:53 < nsh> oh wow, lesswrong. that's self-trolling of the highest order... 11:53 < Burninate> rkos literally *attacked the notion of evidence* 11:53 <@archels> Burninate: and we don't give a shit 11:53 <@archels> please stay on-topic 11:53 < Burninate> noted 11:57 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-179-180.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-179-180.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 12:25 -!- padz [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined 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I mean like the IPO shares public funds it or something. 15:33 < dantespeaks> What are some ways to raise funding? 15:33 < justanotheruser> get a job 15:34 < dantespeaks> Oh don't be so blunt. I wouldve done that if i wasn't so social phobic. 15:34 < kanzure> why are you here 15:35 < dantespeaks> To try and connect academic sciences to practical use. 15:35 < dantespeaks> Or further learning beyond high school stuff anyways... 15:37 < dantespeaks> Rosalind.info on bioinformatics stuff like this gives me hope to leverage learning by use of a computer... 15:40 < dantespeaks> What you set up here seems like the bridge between where I'm trying to get to... ultimate goal of course is somekind of human enhancement... mostly interested in neuroscience. 15:40 < kanzure> Burninate: i have no idea what that earlier conversation was about 15:42 < nsh> eliezer didn't die in freak boating accident as a child. then some stupid stuff happened for a few decades... 15:42 < kanzure> i don't know what that's a summary of, but it's hilarious 15:43 * nsh smiles 15:43 < nsh> (i think there was a silly "debate" in #lesswrong, so i'm confident in blaming the whole thing on eliezer) 15:43 < kanzure> sounds good to me 15:49 < pasky> omg, i found out that i'm unable to resolve www.cnsa.gov.cn :( 15:49 < pasky> it appears some gov.cn nameservers simply don't talk to europe or something 15:50 * pasky once thought he could reach anywhere by the internet 15:50 < kanzure> i'd be surprised if you're even allowed into that country, aren't you some sort of superhacker that destroyed sourceforge or something 15:50 < kanzure> :snark: 15:52 < pasky> oic, UDP packets stuck on passport control! 15:53 < kanzure> i wonder what nameservers they run. a lot of their servers are windows/IIS stuff. 15:54 < pasky> (seriously, can any of you guys resolve it? my only convenient us shell is gone since they revamped hera.kernel.org) 15:54 < kanzure> nope doesn't resolve 15:59 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00 < pasky> thanks 16:02 < kanzure> pasky: what sorta shell was kernel.org giving you and why/what? 16:07 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 16:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:33 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:34 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 < kanzure> heh boto has mturk 18:30 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:32 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:46 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:17 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:22 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:23 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:40 -!- nsh [lol@host81-154-253-48.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:43 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- dantespeaker [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:50 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 19:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:06 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:22 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:47 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:55 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 < kanzure> fenn_: i was not aware of the dymaxion chronofile. he definitely outdoes you by at least 5 decades. 21:00 < kanzure> i think maybe i'll transcribe his 42 hours of "everything i know" http://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Abuckminsterfuller&sort=-publicdate 21:00 < kanzure> maybe i type fast enough to get it done in 41 hours 21:03 < Qfwfq> It's already been transcribed; is this so you maintain attention? 21:03 < Qfwfq> Starting here http://bfi.org/about-bucky/resources/everything-i-know/eik-session-1/eik-session-1-part-1 21:04 < kanzure> no it's not so i maintain attention 21:04 < kanzure> it's stupid that archive.org wouldn't have a link to that 21:05 < kanzure> this looks like the transcript index http://bfi.org/about-bucky/resources/everything-i-know 21:05 < kanzure> i'll start wherever i please screw you 21:05 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 < Qfwfq> lol 21:11 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:18 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:29 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:50 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 -!- dantespeaks [~androirc@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:06 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- Zhwazi [~Zhwazi@copyfree/contributor/Zhwazi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:41 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:42 -!- nsh [lol@host81-154-253-48.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:44 -!- rkos__ [~rkos@93-32-169-18.ip34.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: "Ask not what's inside your head, but what your head's inside of"] 23:04 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:08 < justanotheruser1> RSA took $10m from NSA to make backdoored Dual_EC_DRBG the default: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220 23:12 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Changing host] 23:12 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 < JayDugger> Careful kanzure, you'll end up typing like RBF if you transcribe his E.I.K. presentation, 23:21 < kanzure> who is rbf 23:22 < JayDugger> Sorry, R. Buckminister Fuller. 23:22 < kanzure> blah blah blah whole earth, blah blah blah architecture, blah blah blah obscure t-slot that nobody has ever heard of but happens to be wildly successful 23:23 < JayDugger> :) 23:23 < JayDugger> Pretty well absorbed into the background noise, and less novel now than when originally presented. 23:25 -!- nsh [lol@host81-154-253-48.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32 -!- justanotheruser1 is now known as justanotheruser 23:33 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Dec 21 00:00:59 2013