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03:56 < bertm> paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0021-9517(67)90181-9
03:56 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5e64ec53aed2dd9f997bae4163bc3849.txt
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04:43 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v31/n11/full/nbt.2746.html
04:43 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnbt.2746
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11:26 < drewbug> paperbot, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20087132
11:26 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1227%2F01.NEU.0000360379.95800.2F
11:27 < drewbug> PAPERBOT, HTTP://WWW.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV/pubmed/20087132
11:27 < kanzure_> intense.
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11:28 < drewbug> Gotta be stern.
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14:34 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adma.200803702/abstract
14:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ddc1fc7e6b7fb240aad93b8af545233b.txt
14:35 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adma.200803702/pdf
14:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9215a4849c511e4540f053754368b5bf.txt
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14:46 < delinquentme> Do we have any people who work in pharma computational chemistry?
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15:12 < nmz787> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Direct-Write_Assembly_of_3D_Hydrogel_Scaffolds_for_Guided_Cell_Growth.pdf
15:13 < delinquentme> nmz787, you applied to schrodinger right?
15:13 < delinquentme> have you talked with any of their people?
15:13 < nmz787> yes
15:13 < nmz787> no
15:13 < nmz787> they dealt only in email
15:13 < nmz787> possibly because i dont have a degree
15:14 < nmz787> not sure what info i gave them
15:14 < delinquentme> Oh by talk I mean any kind of interesting communication
15:14 < nmz787> nope
15:14 < delinquentme> ah. LAMESAUCES
15:14 < nmz787> they have a local office downtown, so i was a little disappointed
15:15 < kanzure> i received email from jonathan.draxton@schrodinger.com in june when they were looking for a front-end developer
15:15 < kanzure> "My name is Jonathan Draxton, and I'm an associate at Schrödinger, an international life science research and development company funded in part by Bill Gates. Looking at your programming skill set, I thought you might be interested to know that Schrödinger is currently building something that's going to revolutionize the drug discovery process. To do this, our engineers need more front-end experts who are proficient in languages like ...
15:15 < kanzure> ... JavaScript, Python, and PHP. What do you think? Does this sound of interest to you?"
15:15 < juri_> pfft.
15:16 < kanzure> no kidding
15:16 < kanzure> "Here's a short video of Scott Becker, our VP of Enterprise Products, talking a little bit about what we're doing: http://vimeo.com/49879101 "
15:16 < juri_> "i'm using large names to try and drag in developers who have only basic proficiencies. feel like being abused, and blamed when everything goes wrong?"
15:17 < kanzure> to be honest, based on the going rates, pay me $300k/year and blame it on me? i don't care, give me money
15:17 < gradstudentbot> I have to order new primers.
15:17 < delinquentme> "going rates" ?
15:17 < kanzure> you can blame anything on me
15:17 < kanzure> my point is that for a competent front-end dev you're looking at a substantial pile of money
15:18 < juri_> "oh, and when we blame it on you, we will do far more damage in shaming your industry than you can do good with the money."
15:18 < kanzure> that's not what happens though
15:18 < kanzure> i mean, those are empty threats
15:18 < juri_> "humanityplus is doomed, because php programmers suck. obviously."
15:18 < juri_> -- Bill gates
15:18 < kanzure> there might be more truth to that fakequote than you might think
15:19 < chris_99> anyone 'ere, played with ultrasound out of interest, specifically calculating speed of sound?
15:19 < delinquentme> its not a fake quote anymore! Its documented on the internet!
15:19 < kanzure> (based on my experience of code reviewing php from humanityplus)
15:19 < juri_> kanzure: me and my partner maintain a rapid application development framework written in PHP. feel free to use, or review it.
15:20 < delinquentme> kanzure, nmz787 my deepest hope for this email is that they'd give me some insights as to how their internal R&D is updating their simulation models
15:20 < delinquentme> Also I had this idea to sell microfluidic chips with skin cultures to the cosmetics industry
15:21 < delinquentme> holy fuck.
15:21 < delinquentme> I just had an idea.
15:21 < delinquentme> @_@!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:21 < kanzure> ugh
15:21 < nmz787> gnarly dude
15:21 < nmz787> cowabunga
15:22 < kanzure> juri_: have you used flask, sinatra or express?
15:23 < delinquentme> kanzure, nmz787 thoughts on the email to schrodinger?  Im in the process of looking up the specialities / dissertations of their scientific team
15:23 < delinquentme> also is the biochip for skin cells / cosmetics to replace animal testing a crap idea?
15:23 < juri_> kanzure: i haven't heard of either of the three.
15:23 < kanzure> juri_: have you only used "rapid application development frameworks" in php?
15:24 < juri_> kanzure: that would be a correct asertion.
15:24 < juri_> in other languages, i haven't needed much framework. i tend toward the bare metal stuffs.
15:24 < delinquentme> PS kanzure the music in this schrodinger video is awful strummy hippy love shit
15:25 < delinquentme> HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FIX ALL THE THINGS... if we dont have glitchmob esqe hot music to hype our progress =[[[
15:25 < kanzure> juri_: how do you know you're making sane or rational decisions without a breadth of experience? i highly recommend trying django, rails, express, flask, bottle, pyramid, larvitar
15:26 < juri_> delinquentme: i would say your biochip for testing makes long term species sense... the real question you should be asking yourself is whether moore's law is going to make the technology to make better versions of those than real live animals any time soon.
15:26 < kanzure> and maybe some spring shit in there just so that you cover some oldstuff for the hell of it
15:27 < delinquentme> juri_, you're asking if we're going to have the simulation models for these down sooner than just sticking those cells on chips and getting them to work?
15:27 < delinquentme> kanzure, I want to scream at you. Needs yewar guidance
15:27 < delinquentme> YUNO play in sandbox ?
15:28 < juri_> kanzure: my php experiences have usually been limited to either large projects with 5 competing frameworks poorly integrated, or tiny php apps. i'm not sure i'm in much of a 'rational decision' state, your observation makes some sense. i don't see myself getting to that state, because i've got my nose way too close to the grindstone.
15:28  * delinquentme pees in sandbox
15:28 < kanzure> you want my guidance writing an email about what exactly
15:29 < delinquentme> I want to know what things I should ask to get the answers I'm looking for.  I want to know if they've got some kind of automated bioreactor automation in house to update these models
15:29 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, I'm just looking for a journal that will take that paper.
15:29 < juri_> delinquentme: no, i'm actually asking if (for a varying definition of better) there will come a tipping point where it makes more sense to use chips containing cells, than animals.
15:29 < entelechios> dude
15:29 < entelechios> my kids play in there
15:29 < entelechios> what the fuck is wrong with you
15:30 < nmz787> delinquentme: asking that sounds good
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15:30 < nmz787> "do you check your models against in-vitro or in-vivo or in-situ (aka non in-silico)"
15:31 < kanzure> asking direct questions is not always the best way to get answers
15:31 < nmz787> seems like they have to, or they mine literature like crazy
15:31 < nmz787> otherwise they'd be pulling numbers outta their ass
15:31 < delinquentme> nmz787, well they have internal R&D as well as guys who are explicitly R&D
15:31 < kanzure> often there is information that is considered off-limits until you divulge something else
15:31 < delinquentme> but that doesn't tell me how much automation is in that process
15:31 < delinquentme> true
15:32 < nmz787> i'm not so good at social engineering i guess :P
15:32 < kanzure> "i stalked you at the last 10 parties we mutually went to, therefore we are now friends"
15:32 < kanzure> "what no way man, you don't remember me? shit, well akram remembers me.. ah akram is working for you?"
15:32 < kanzure> and then i realize i'm talking to the wrong person
15:33 < kanzure> brownies pulled a trick on me a while back
15:33 < Lemminkainen> social engineering?
15:33 < kanzure> the company knew him as paul, but his name wasn't paul, so they asked me how i knew paul
15:33 < Lemminkainen> just be friendly
15:33 < kanzure> i am not talking about social engineering
15:33 < Lemminkainen> social engineering is for spergtards who are trying to grow out of their neckbeard phase
15:33 < nmz787> social stumbling
15:33 < Lemminkainen> kanzure isn't nmz787 was
15:33 < kanzure> being friendly is necessary but not sufficient- this is why wordsmithing is useful
15:34 < delinquentme> Lemminkainen, I've not trimmed in a few days.
15:34 < nmz787> months of growth for me
15:35 < delinquentme> other than PLA ... are there other known bio-compatible 3dprinter filaments?
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15:35 < delinquentme> from the (little) research I've done ... the number of bio-compatible photopolymers is WAY more
15:36 < entelechios> be gregarious
15:36 < nmz787> sucrose
15:37 < nmz787> sugar glass
15:37 < nmz787> highly biodegradable
15:39 < juri_> i wonder how i'd print that. :/
15:39 < nmz787> jmil posted a howto
15:39 < Lemminkainen> btw, I submit that there is a respectful difference between a sperglord and a spergtard
15:39 < nmz787> that's too much deutcsch for me to comprehend
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15:40 < Lemminkainen> wir können etwas genauer sprechen, wenn du das willst
15:40 < nmz787> du, du hast, du has mich
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15:41 < nmz787> ein zwei dright veir have another glass of bier!
15:41 < Lemminkainen> ich haße dich nicht
15:42 < delinquentme> Im freaking out in my head right now
15:42 < delinquentme> caffeine oh how I missed yew
15:42 < juri_> oh god, where is my coffee cup!
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15:43 < nmz787> i got an espresso machine at goodwill a few months ago
15:43 < nmz787> it is being loved well
15:43 < nmz787> along with raw grass-fed milk foamed
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15:53 < Lemminkainen> we need to make algae lactate interesting casein micellar complexes so that we can make milk more interesting
15:54 < Lemminkainen> add in some BCAAs and omega-3 PUFAs and get rid of that pesky lactose
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17:46 < bkero> Where did poppingtonic go? :(
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18:20 < FourFire> "
18:20 < FourFire> <juri_> "humanityplus is doomed, because php programmers suck. obviously."" I thought it was just php which sucked
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18:40 < jrayhawk> humanityplus is the next facebook, because php
18:41 < kanzure> your powers of reasoning fascinate me
18:41 < kanzure> mostly they confuse me
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18:55 < juri_> reasoning is completely optional.
18:58 < delinquentme> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121002150031.htm
18:58 < delinquentme> bullshit?
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19:12 < Dantespeaks> hahaha foools
19:13 < Dantespeaks> oh sorry wroong chanell
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