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[~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- kuldeepdhaka is now known as year2014 10:46 -!- year2014 is now known as kuldeepdhaka 10:46 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:59 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:02 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26 < nmz787> well this is crazy and hard to tell if based on reality http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2489954/ 11:32 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 < drewbug> Anyone have any tips on getting a cheap CT head scan? 11:35 < FourFire> don't have anything metal on you 11:35 < FourFire> really, DO NOT 11:35 < drewbug> Why do you say that? 11:35 < drewbug> I thought that was just more of a problem for an MRI. 11:36 < nmz787> CT is x-rays 11:37 < nmz787> metal will just mess up the image if in field-of-view 11:37 < drewbug> Okay, cool. 11:37 < drewbug> I meant something more along the lines of "Where can I get a super-cheap CT scan?" 11:37 < gradstudentbot> I haven't seen my PI in like a week. 11:37 < nmz787> dental college 11:37 < nmz787> but you will have to do some convincing that you need it 11:38 < nmz787> generally they only give them for major facial reconstruction or for braces maybe 11:39 < drewbug> I can't just say "for a Science project"? 11:39 < nmz787> i wanted them to do it before grinding at some cavities, but they said they couldn't use the 3D data in their treatment plan so I didn't press them to get it done 11:39 < nmz787> I should have :( 11:39 < nmz787> no they'll give you shit about radiation levels, even though its worth like 1 airplane ride across the U.S. (6 or 8 hours at 30k ft elevation) 11:39 < kanzure> why do you need it to be cheap? wouldn't an expensive CT scan work just as effectively? 11:40 < nmz787> yeah I don't think it was particularly expensive, maybe a few hundred dollars at most 11:40 < drewbug> kanzure: Not from my wallet's POV. 11:40 < nmz787> i say that because they charged like $80 for dental x-ray images 11:40 < drewbug> The places around me are >$900 11:40 < nmz787> if you want cheaper go to russia (or thailand or india) 11:41 < nmz787> seriously though 11:41 < nmz787> DIY is an option, but it will cost much more than a few hundred in your time 11:41 < nmz787> and if you screw up, you could overdose on x-rays 11:41 < drewbug> Yeah, I'd considered trying to DIY it. 11:42 < drewbug> But both of those reasons led me to just want to pay someone to do it. 11:42 < nmz787> you probably shouldn't, but ben krasnow has some videos of him doing a scan on a frozen chicken 11:42 < drewbug> It's not like I'll need it more than once. 11:42 < drewbug> Heh. 11:42 < drewbug> What about lying and saying I want one for religious purposes or something? 11:43 < nmz787> probably not gonna fly at a medical facility 11:43 < nmz787> maybe if your local church has one 11:43 < nmz787> :P 11:43 < drewbug> Actually, the local hospital is church-run or something, I believe. 11:43 < drewbug> But I doubt that'd work. 11:43 < drewbug> Hmm. 11:44 < nmz787> you can tell them you want braces or something 11:44 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44 < nmz787> whatever operation they need a CT for 11:44 < nmz787> then say you changed your mind, then request your records 11:44 < drewbug> Interesting. 11:44 < nmz787> you will need to do some research on what those operations are 11:44 < drewbug> I'd tell that to the dentist, then, no? 11:44 < drewbug> I'll do that now. 11:45 < nmz787> likely only something cosmetic is gonna entice them if you don't have legit teeth problems 11:45 < nmz787> but then they might only give you the CT around your mouth 11:45 < nmz787> is that the area you want? 11:46 < nmz787> I don't know how big the field-of-view is with those machines 11:47 < kanzure> i have had the worst luck with requesting records 11:48 < nmz787> my local dental college was a simple 1 page form 11:48 < nmz787> you could get images via snail mail, or unsecured email for digital 11:49 < nmz787> well I say images, but they would also send the paper stuff that consists of dental reports etc 11:49 < nmz787> s/paper/written/ 11:55 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:09 < FourFire> "i wanted them to do it before grinding at some cavities, but they said they couldn't use the 3D data in their treatment plan so I didn't press them to get it done" what? I get one for every dental checkup 12:09 < FourFire> (but then they stick this thing in your mouth and it's a locallized emitter gun 12:15 < nmz787> are you sure that's not just a digital sensor in your mouth? 12:15 < nmz787> FourFire: you get a CT for every checkup? 12:16 < FourFire> probably just an x-ray sensor in my mouth and an localized x-ray gun 12:16 < FourFire> but yeah, the do that every checkup 12:17 < nmz787> that's likely 2D 12:17 < nmz787> not CT 12:17 < nmz787> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_computed_tomography 12:17 < FourFire> you know it's radiation of some kind because the attendent gets out of there pretty quickly and activates the gun remotely 12:17 < FourFire> yeah, thatæs it 12:18 < nmz787> https://www.google.com/search?q=ct+scanner&source=lnms&tbm=isch 12:18 < nmz787> those are all table based 12:18 < nmz787> the mouth only with local tube is 2D 12:19 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- chidori is now known as chido 12:54 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@158-142-212.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:05 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:ed15:f5c5:44c:8ad3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:06 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:ed15:f5c5:44c:8ad3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 < ParahSailin> "I want to incorporate certain genes from a certain animal into myself" 13:10 < kanzure> ParahSailin: https://twitter.com/shit_rbtc_says 13:11 < ParahSailin> heh 13:11 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:ed15:f5c5:44c:8ad3] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:27 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:561:b616:e6fb:8132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:39 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:40 -!- pads is now known as Guest50208 13:41 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:561:b616:e6fb:8132] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:42 -!- Guest44395 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:43 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.225] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 < drewbug> nmz787: Sorry for disappearing earlier. I want the whole skull, not just the area around the mouth. 13:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.225] has quit [Changing host] 13:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:561:b616:e6fb:8132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:49 < drewbug> It looks like I might be able to get one from "vision problems, muscle weakness, numbness and tingling, hearing loss, speaking difficulties, or swallowing problems". 13:59 < drewbug> paperbot, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12558249 14:00 < drewbug> paperbot, http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/113/1/10.1121/1.1529663 14:00 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Scitation%3A%20Experimental%20demonstration%20of%20noninvasive%20transskull%20adaptive%20focusing%20based%20on%20prior%20computed%20tomography%20scans.txt 14:05 < nmz787> do you want to do brain surgery? 14:06 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Experimental_demonstration_of_noninvasive_transskull_adaptive_focusing_based_on_prior_computed_tomography_scans.pdf 14:06 < nmz787> drewbug: ^ 14:07 < drewbug> I found it elsewhere, but thank you! 14:07 < drewbug> Not surgery, just neuromodulation. 14:34 < drewbug> nmz787: Did you have to pay for that? 14:54 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:02 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:42 -!- rkos [~rkos@a88-113-154-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- drewbug [~Adium@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:15 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:21 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:47 < ParahSailin> ion proton is not completely worthless 17:48 < kanzure> you are their worst spokesperson 17:48 < ParahSailin> they get what they pay for 18:07 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- saurik_ is now known as saurik 18:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p5B139871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p5B139871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 18:30 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:46 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@50-1-105-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:46 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@50-1-105-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:06 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:09 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@ip24-252-25-244.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.225] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:13 -!- ThomasEgi_ [~thomas@p5B13BA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:16 -!- n_bentha [~GuanYu@184.75.223.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:23 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.225] has quit [Changing host] 19:23 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-50-19-64-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-196-101-123.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:59 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:561:b616:e6fb:8132] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:16 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18 < nmz787> drewbot: are you drewbug? 20:39 -!- lichen [~lichen@50.139.11.6] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:42 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 < ParahSailin> "This is the first programming language to be publicly released from a plane flying over the Atlantic Ocean. 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