--- Log opened Mon Jan 06 00:00:15 2014 00:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- Viper168__ [~Viper@179.kansas-01-03rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:43 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:47 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.20.128] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:47 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.20.128] has quit [Changing host] 00:47 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:24 -!- Guest44575 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:06 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@71-33-177-160.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@host86-158-75-73.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:09 -!- nsh [~nsh@host86-158-75-73.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:13 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@host86-158-75-73.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:19 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- balrog [~balrog@discferret/developer/balrog] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:42 -!- balrog [~balrog@discferret/developer/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:52 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@69-196-178-212.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:52 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@46.233.116.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:59 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@46.233.116.132] has quit [Changing host] 02:59 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:59 -!- nsh_ is now known as nsh 03:11 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:14 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@71-33-177-160.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 03:59 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-24-23-152.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:46 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:53 -!- nsh [~nsh@46.233.116.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:02 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r179-25-4-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 -!- upgrayeddd [uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyvhsnhnddsfiqxv] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:06 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-24-23-152.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:11 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r179-25-4-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:11 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-4-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- rkneue1 [~rkneue1@fwmbc.biotec.unito.it] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- upgrayeddd [uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evlwlpchxhvdgtiz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 < rkneue1> hi everybody 06:18 < rkneue1> I don't mean to waste your time, but I've a (simple? ) question for any genomics-related field researchers in here... 06:18 < rkneue1> me and my group are planning to develop a new bioinformatics toolkit… main aim of our project is to allow integration of most available genomics data online (e.g. ngs data such as chip-seqs and so on) and a complexive and non-redundant genes annotation and the actually missing cross-referencing between different genes aliases in different annotations (e.g. ensembl, ncbi, vega, etc.). according to your experiences and needs… what would it 06:20 -!- nsh [~nsh@46.233.116.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:41 < ParahSailin> make a free version of geneious 06:42 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:10 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@94.9.98.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 < rkneue1> geneious cannot do these things... 07:21 < rkneue1> geneious is a clcbio-like toolkit… and according to my opinion it's kinda heavy... 07:29 -!- Persona [~textual@broadband-188-32-113-83.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- rkneue1 [~rkneue1@fwmbc.biotec.unito.it] has quit [Quit: irc2go] 07:39 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.81.112] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- Guest46403 is now known as wallmani 08:12 -!- wallmani [~wallmani@162.243.55.16] has quit [Changing host] 08:12 -!- wallmani [~wallmani@unaffiliated/wallmani] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@94.9.98.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:43 < ParahSailin> i know geneious is something different 08:43 < ParahSailin> you should make that instead 08:46 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:55 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.146.164] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@134-130-212.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 < ParahSailin> btw, eureka genomics is hiring bioinformaticists again 09:13 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.81.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:14 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:19 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 < kanzure> ParahSailin: worst salesman ever... isn't this the company that gave you mountains of php to maintain? 09:30 < ParahSailin> lol, well thankfully i dont have to touch any php, and the person theyre hiring wont have to either 09:31 < kanzure> pinky promise? 09:31 < gradstudentbot> I remember the paper, I just don't remember the details. 09:32 < ParahSailin> spit shake 09:41 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@75.128.248.139] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:49 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-4-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:11 < chris_99> i was just thinking something like a cell counter would be pretty easy to make once you've got a microscope and camera wouldn't it 10:15 -!- _0bitcount [~bytecount@213.37.173.18.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:25 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 10:29 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:33 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@69-196-178-212.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:51 -!- Persona [~textual@broadband-188-32-113-83.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:02 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 < FourFire> chris_99, what do you mean by that? 11:15 < chris_99> i just thought it'd be something that could be easily made, using simple image recognition 11:15 < ParahSailin> yeah fundamentally a flow cytometer is pretty simple 11:17 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:18 < kanzure> gradstudentbot .add yeah fundamentally a flow cytometer is pretty simple 11:18 < gradstudentbot> That's the control group, right? 11:18 < FourFire> I really need a soundgif to this: http://boourns.dynu.net/pics/rDGrP.gif 11:19 < chris_99> i was actually thinking of a static slide, with cells on, that have been dyed, along with the lines denoting the separation, but if you could do it for flow cytrometry too.. 11:19 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 < kanzure> https://github.com/mayosmith/openbitcoinatm 11:20 < FourFire> the best I can do is an imaginary marble on wood sound, like the booming, works like the booming sound with the gif of the high voltage cable tower skipping-rope 11:20 < kanzure> start yer hax0ring 11:21 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:31 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.146.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:41 -!- QuadIngi [~fourfire@220-141-212.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@134-130-212.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:41 -!- QuadIngi is now known as FourFire 11:45 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 -!- _0bitcount [~bytecount@213.37.173.18.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:06 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:17 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:33 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@212.49.88.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 12:53 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24 < juri_> I'm continuing to specialize in image recognition, so if someone wants to get me some video / stills of cells, i can tell you how likely current simple image recognition technology is going to solve your problem, FYI. 13:26 < chris_99> cool, what kind of image recognition do you do 13:27 < chris_99> do you do stuff similar to SIFT for example 13:27 < juri_> i'm the maintainer of GNU GIFT, but i've recently been creating a new web interface, with other imaging technologies integrated. 13:27 < juri_> nope. what i use is very fixed scale, and abuses that fact. ;) 13:28 < chris_99> aha 13:28 < juri_> SIFT makes more sense in the real world. most of what i'm doing is really working against 2d objects scanned at a consistent size (sheets of paper, one way or the other.) 13:28 < gradstudentbot> Argh, what do you mean you don't accept LaTeX submissions?? 13:28 < chris_99> aha gotcha 13:31 < chris_99> what algs do you use for that? 13:35 -!- poppingt` [~poppingto@212.49.88.103] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@212.49.88.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 < juri_> chris_99: i'm using gabor transforms, hough transforms, and am looking at MSER. 13:48 < chris_99> ah cool, i had a play with hough transforms to find lines, then ported some LSD code to java 13:49 < wallmani> LSD code? 13:50 < chris_99> http://www.ipol.im/pub/art/2012/gjmr-lsd/ 13:51 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:758c:d0b3:f2d6:fa2a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:53 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@220-141-212.connect.netcom.no] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 14:47 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@75.128.248.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:49 -!- pads is now known as Guest97983 14:50 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:55 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/214/214ra170.full 14:55 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3006870 15:00 < delinquentme> so I kinda want one of these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/garry_rocks/11729002556/in/photostream/ 15:00 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:01 < delinquentme> http://www.flickr.com/photos/garry_rocks/11330550364/in/photostream/ 15:01 < gradstudentbot> Well, I can't really talk about it because I'm trying to get it published in Science or Nature. 15:03 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/214/214ra170 15:04 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3006870 15:05 < delinquentme> paperboot these links do not work ! 15:06 < kanzure> then fix it 15:06 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot 15:07 < gradstudentbot> Wow, I'm definitely not including this data in the paper. 15:14 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/214/214ra170 15:19 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3006870 15:19 < delinquentme> kanzure, where is paperbot running? and are there instructions to make a live push and update? 15:20 < chris_99> haha that lego thing is cute delinquentme 15:20 < delinquentme> I kinda want a small collection of them now! 15:20 < chris_99> heh 15:25 < delinquentme> has anyone thought about running data munging / standardization / wrangling as a service? 15:26 < delinquentme> I thought I had some wild insight by paying multiple cheap labor individuals in a far off land to run the cleaning 15:26 < delinquentme> then run a diff on the finalized data as a quality check. 15:31 < kanzure> delinquentme: if you make a pull request, i'll push the changes to the right place 15:36 < delinquentme> is there anyway that I could get my own paperbot up and running? 15:36 < delinquentme> are there details on that ? 15:36 < kanzure> the README explains the dependencies 15:36 < kanzure> there is an environment variable that it will ask you for, but you can just set it to an empty string 15:42 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:01 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ivan`, ElixirVitae, yorick, balrog 16:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: balrog 16:03 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.20.128] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.20.128] has quit [Changing host] 16:03 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ivan` 16:22 < chris_99> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUW7dQ92yDU 16:22 < chris_99> .title 16:22 < chris_99> " 16:22 < chris_99> Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation project - part 1" 16:26 < gradstudentbot> Hood life: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=296519020495014 16:28 < chris_99> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_olmdAQx5s 16:28 < chris_99> that is amazing 16:29 < gradstudentbot> I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that. 16:47 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.81.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:51 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:07 < nmz787> juri_: ever do any android dev? you say you have a webserver with some image proc? maybe android dev isn't needed, maybe users (bio ppl with cell images) could just upload to your site... things like counting cells on a petri dish is an easy goal... then distinguishing their color is another 17:07 < juri_> No. 17:08 < juri_> and yes, my site is designed for users to just sign up, and use all these image processing tools. 17:08 < juri_> wanna take a peek at the 'new hotness'? i've got a new version i'm trying to get out the door next week. 17:09 -!- brownies [~brownies@unaffiliated/brownies] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:10 -!- brownies [~brownies@unaffiliated/brownies] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:12 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:19 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:21 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:4952:82b7:ca0f:4c5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:35 < kanzure> you should just use normal image processing tools, and then the web server can be just an api to those tools 17:35 < kanzure> there's no reason to couple software that much :( 17:36 < juri_> gift doesn't work like 'normal image processing tools'. 17:37 < kanzure> i don't care, i strongly odubt it requires a website to function 17:37 < kanzure> *doubt 17:37 < juri_> no, but it requires a web site to be useful. 17:37 < kanzure> i doubt it. if the algorithm doesn't work without http then your algorithm is fundamentally flawed.. 17:37 < kanzure> you said it was image processing related? 17:37 * juri_ rolls her eyes into the next continent. 17:38 < juri_> did you not READ WHAT I SAID? 17:38 < juri_> now, i'll take helpful input from anywhere, but just saying "i doubt that" to everything i say is not fucking helpful. 17:38 < kanzure> you're telling me that gift requires a website to be useful 17:38 < juri_> gift was an accademic application. and that makes it VERY broken. 17:38 < juri_> 'useful'. 17:39 < juri_> yes, i am. i've put together a site, where people i know can accomplish tasks in their day to day lives, that use gift for image processing. 17:39 < kanzure> all i see on the site is "query by example"... so ./thing --examples=path 17:39 < juri_> sure, if you want, you can run it from a command line, manually import collections, start and restart and restart the daemon as you add images... 17:39 < kanzure> yeah, so that doesn't require a web server. a web server is just a completely separate stack of software that shouldn't infect the gift source code. 17:39 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-234-67-226.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 < juri_> but if you want to get stuff done, you use the web UI. 17:40 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-205-234-154.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:40 < kanzure> but also, now that you mention it, i am also skeptical of the daemon ;) 17:40 < juri_> its not 'infecting' the code. they're seperate projects, and seperate tools. 17:40 < kanzure> what? that's not what you described earlier 17:40 < juri_> i HATE the daemon. 17:40 < juri_> well then, blame my ability to describe. 17:40 < juri_> i do. ;) 17:40 < kanzure> easily done.... 17:41 < juri_> gift is fundamentally flawed and broken. i'm wrapping it, to make it not as flawed and broken. the wrapper has become its own monstrosity, which is now having new algorithms added to it.. 17:42 < kanzure> digging a deeper hole to get out of the first hole? 17:42 < juri_> yep. 17:42 < kanzure> can i sell you a shovel 17:43 < juri_> you can pay me to dig, you can dig, or you can get down in the hole, and look at what i'm digging through. i take no direction from people standing on the level earth. ;) 17:43 < gradstudentbot> I am completely satisfied with the size of my bench space. 17:45 < juri_> there are several ways you're correct, and my approach is not quite sane. i'm trying to find the shortest route from accademic tool discarded a decade ago, to useful day to day tool for non programmers. sanity is left behind when you start talking to non-engineers. 18:02 < kanzure> just because it's for non-engineers doesn't mean writing mangled software is worthwhile 18:02 < kanzure> engineers aren't the only people that can make use out of stable, sane software 18:22 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:758c:d0b3:f2d6:fa2a] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:34 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- poppingt` [~poppingto@212.49.88.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00 < pasky> kanzure: gee, you are such a perfectionist ;-) 19:03 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:28 < juri_> he keeps us lesser beings on our toes. ;) 19:41 < kanzure> never called anyone lesser 19:42 < kanzure> pasky: more disappointed than perfectionist.. 19:54 < juri_> if you're going to be disapointed each time someone you know doesn't have the resources to do a job the way you both think it should be done, you're going to spend a lot of time disapointed. 19:54 < kanzure> what do you mean you don't have hte resources 19:55 < kanzure> i thought you said you just miswrote 19:57 < juri_> I'd much rather b espending the effort killing off the daemon. i find myself feeling like i'm re-inventing SQL in a gui. 19:57 < juri_> its just that re-inventing sql in the gui just a little bit better each time someone bugs me about it, or drops a few weeks paychecks on the table, is much easier than doing the right and proper work. 19:57 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:28 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@108.161.120.7] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:35 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:42 < kanzure> "High-end CNC machines can't be moved without manufacturers' permission" http://boingboing.net/2014/01/06/high-end-cnc-machines-cant-b.html 20:42 < kanzure> "On Practical Machinst, there's a fascinating thread about the manufacturer's lockdown on a high-priced, high-end Mori Seiki NV5000 A/40 CNC mill. The person who started the thread owns the machine outright, but has discovered that if he moves it at all, a GPS and gyro sensor package in the machine automatically shuts it down and will not allow it to restart until they receive a manufacturer's unlock code." 20:54 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:04 < kanzure> seems to probably be just a gyroscope 21:04 < kanzure> because there's no way that gps works inside of those metal buildings 21:12 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:14 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 -!- ybit [~ybit@heath.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 -!- Qfwfq_ [~Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:35 -!- oblique- [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ascendancy, Viper168, ThomasEgi 21:36 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 21:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Viper168 21:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: oblique, ybit_, Qfwfq 21:40 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.146.164] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:41 -!- ascendancy_ [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ybit, drewbot 21:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: drewbot 22:00 -!- ybit [~ybit@heath.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:13 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:15 -!- Qfwfq_ is now known as Qfwfq 22:16 -!- curt1s [~curtis@sol.whatbox.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 22:24 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:4952:82b7:ca0f:4c5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27 < dantespeaks> It'll be moved out of the building then activates because of the gyroscope? To cover that distance of travel GPS will catch a signal somewhere... 22:28 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-3-129-200.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:28 < dantespeaks> It's amazing. I guess that CNC machine is a great value to manufacturing companies, they put such measures of security on it. But everything these days are... 22:42 < dantespeaks> oh man i need to sleep. vertigo keeps coming back. can't grammatically make a structured sentence im not making sense...ugh 22:55 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.219.166] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:03 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:24 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.219.166] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:38 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Tue Jan 07 00:00:16 2014