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-!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:18 <@kanzure> i wonder if cython handles templates 07:18 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by kanzure 07:34 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 < ParahSailin> you are trying to build cython bindings for brl-card now? 08:17 < kanzure> gambatte 08:17 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/vba-linux 08:17 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/python-vba-wrapper 08:18 < kanzure> the only problem is that vba sucks 08:18 < kanzure> python/ctypes brlcad bindings are working fine btw https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad 08:20 < ParahSailin> not visual basic for applications? 08:20 < kanzure> gameboy emulation stuff 08:21 < ParahSailin> virtual boy amulator? 08:21 < kanzure> visualboyadvanc 08:21 < kanzure> visualboyadvance 08:23 < ParahSailin> trying to add scripting hooks to an emulator? 08:24 < ParahSailin> it looks like it already has lua hooks? 08:24 < kanzure> vba-rr has lua bindings, vba-clojure has jvm bindings 08:24 < kanzure> yeah but vba-rr forces you to run lua inside the emulator 08:24 < kanzure> i wanted bindings the other way around 08:25 < kanzure> and vba-clojure would require jython and that just didn't work out wel 08:25 < kanzure> *well 08:25 < kanzure> so i wrote python bindings and they work 08:25 < kanzure> but the problem is that the results are not consistent because vba sucks 08:25 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhy6VpsXzE&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1sapBsRQ1__rgp7qWs0cow 08:25 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FL2Hq64p0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1sapBsRQ1__rgp7qWs0cow 08:26 < ParahSailin> nondeterminism? 08:27 < kanzure> i assume bugs in the emulator 08:27 < kanzure> gambatte has much more thorough testing, https://github.com/sinamas/gambatte/tree/master/testrunner/hwtests 08:30 < ParahSailin> ah that one is actually using c++ rather than c with .cpp extensions 08:31 < kanzure> :\ the whole game emulation community is fucking weird and borderline incompetent sometimes 08:32 < kanzure> gambatte disabled bug reports on github 08:32 < ParahSailin> yeah i imagine the STL shit is hard for the ctypes 08:33 < kanzure> ctypes can't do C++ things anyway 08:33 < kanzure> because of symbol name mangling 08:33 < ParahSailin> right i wouldnt think so 08:33 < kanzure> swig apparently can't handle these templates either 08:33 < kanzure> it supposedly has support for some c++ templates but not these 08:33 < ParahSailin> pyplusplus maybe can handle it 08:34 < kanzure> i can't get pyplusplus to work in any meaningful way 08:34 < ParahSailin> roman yakov has done a lot of insane c++ stuff 08:34 < kanzure> sooo i'm back to cython 08:34 < kanzure> yeah i was reading lots of pyplusplus things yesterday, kept seeing his name around 08:34 < kanzure> pygccxml is neat 08:34 < kanzure> i sorta avoided it because it says xml but it makes sense 08:34 < ParahSailin> parse the AST of C++, but what then? 08:35 < kanzure> >/dev/null i assume 08:35 < kanzure> i keep running into these shitting binding/wrapping situations anyway 08:35 < kanzure> so i was trying to think of a more generic solution 08:35 < kanzure> for example, an rpc library that i can drop into c++ projects 08:36 < kanzure> and then there'd be a python/rpc side that would communicate with it 08:36 < kanzure> (as opposed to doing direct library calls) 08:37 < kanzure> another option is to just write my own pile of extern "C" functions.. but i feel like a chum doing it, given all these other wrapper generators. 08:38 < kanzure> btw if you're able to get pyplusplus to work maybe you can dump notes on me.. 08:39 < ParahSailin> kanzure: do you want an interesting reverse engineering project? 08:39 < ParahSailin> the illumina bcl format begs for it 08:40 < ParahSailin> i started looking at the c++ applications that process it in objdump, but havent done any serious gdb on those yet 08:40 < kanzure> is it urgent? i think i have someone at illumina that can just.. give you things. 08:40 < ParahSailin> that would be useful 08:40 < kanzure> okay let me send some hatemail 08:41 < kanzure> hatemail deployed 08:42 < kanzure> so it's probably some windows exe? 08:43 < kanzure> QuantumG used to do this fancy dll injection trick to isolate individual functions that he was poking at 08:43 < kanzure> http://www.quantumg.net/injectdll.php 08:43 < ParahSailin> oh no its not a windows exe 08:43 < ParahSailin> its x64 regular elf 08:44 < kanzure> well that's a good start 08:44 < ParahSailin> and objdump is pretty helpful 08:45 < kanzure> send me the bin so i can follow along at home 08:46 < kanzure> i dunno if this is featureful enough yet but http://onlinedisassembler.com/ 08:49 < ParahSailin> ok i was trying to do this off the publicly logged channel over pm 08:49 < kanzure> oh sorry, i have >300 windows open and irssi is still horizontal window listing and it is dumb 08:50 < ParahSailin> what is the ssh gnusha server again 08:51 < kanzure> it's your flname username 08:51 < kanzure> gnusha.org or diyhpl.us should both work 08:54 < ParahSailin> oh, scp is not enabled on the rsh 08:54 < kanzure> oh you have the restricted shell? hah 08:55 < kanzure> try again sorry 08:55 < kanzure> jrayhawk: is there a correct way to switch out the shell other than editing /etc/passwd 08:56 < curt1s> what other way are you expecting 08:56 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 < curt1s> that is the way 08:57 < kanzure> i'm sure there's some userspace/adminspace tool 08:57 < curt1s> yeah a userspace tool that edits /etc/passwd for you :P 08:57 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:57 < kanzure> why not? with sudo privileges it would work 08:58 < curt1s> of course 09:00 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:00 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-!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.119.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 < kanzure> okay you got it 10:48 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.152.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.119.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:59 < ParahSailin> uploaded to that home directory 11:01 < kanzure> hrmm _ZN2ga11basecalling19ParallelCycleReaderD0Ev 11:02 < ParahSailin> yeah 11:03 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.152.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:05 -!- Zhormiga [~Zhormiga@mon75-9-82-235-179-170.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- Zhormiga [~Zhormiga@mon75-9-82-235-179-170.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:06 < ParahSailin> and now theres a sample .bcl file there too 11:07 < kanzure> i suggest wrapping into python asap and writing various helper functions for poking at their common library funcs 11:08 < kanzure> you'll probably have to guess about the function signatures a little bit but who cares 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*wanted* to forget we had gwb as president for as long as we did... 11:43 < curt1s> then i remembered 11:43 < curt1s> :( 11:45 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@46.165.208.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.122.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:07 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.123.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.122.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:12 -!- rejuvyesh [~rejuvyesh@unaffiliated/rejuvyesh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:12 < kanzure> "No I don't think I know anyone with that info. There are a few guys at work that I don't know very well who maybe know. I will ask around next week." 12:12 -!- rejuvyesh [~rejuvyesh@unaffiliated/rejuvyesh] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:19 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.123.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 < jrayhawk> kanzure: chsh 12:23 < jrayhawk> when invoked by normal users it is restricted to /etc/shells 12:26 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.57] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:43 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.15.249] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:44 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:81bd:bb68:8b88:2e2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.227] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.15.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:57 < ParahSailin> i know someone at illumina too, though i dont think he works with that stuff or is willing to risk getting in trouble 12:59 < curt1s> jrayhawk: it's chpass 13:00 < curt1s> so you'd do chpass -s 13:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:01 < curt1s> (followed by user) 13:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.14.123] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 < curt1s> i guess you could have used that earlier kanzure 13:02 < curt1s> but all that does is edit the user database for you 13:02 < jrayhawk> jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ dpkg -S bin/chsh 13:02 < jrayhawk> passwd: /usr/bin/chsh 13:02 < jrayhawk> jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ dpkg -S bin/chpass | grep -v chpasswd 13:02 < jrayhawk> jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ 13:05 < curt1s> what's your point? 13:06 < jrayhawk> That one is installed on every POSIX system in existence and the other is not. 13:07 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@30-79-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.15.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:10 < curt1s> oh ok 13:10 < curt1s> so it's not on your system, therefore it doesn't exist 13:10 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.14.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:11 < kanzure> kicked for failing to troll well enough 13:12 < curt1s> who? 13:13 < ParahSailin> ohhh... looks like bcl uses the bottom 2 bits to encode base and the top rest bits of a byte to encode quality score 13:13 < ParahSailin> looks like this is gonna be pretty simple 13:14 < ParahSailin> and if quality is zero, the resultant base is "." 13:19 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.125.207] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.15.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.120.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.125.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:32 < jrayhawk> curt1s: Generally I have an ounce of respect for portability. 13:34 < jrayhawk> e.g. chsh is guaranteed to be a general purpose answer and thus applicable to whomever is asking the question, both due to SUIDness and due to POSIXness, whereas chpass is not. 13:34 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:34 < jrayhawk> Kanzure in particular does not spend a lot of time in the BSD ecosystem. 13:35 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.126.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 < curt1s> i see jrayhawk 13:38 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:40 < jrayhawk> In the same vein, I will attempt to answer shell questions in POSIX shell while avoiding Bashisms despite wide deployment of Bash. 13:40 < curt1s> that's cool i gues 13:40 < curt1s> guess* 13:41 < curt1s> do you think bash is more popular now, though? 13:43 < jrayhawk> If interactive, Bash has retained popularity for decades. If including noninteractive invocations, no, busybox's dash or busybox's sh is vastly more widely employed, notably at least dozens of times in init systems. 13:44 < jrayhawk> s/busybox's dash/dash/ 13:46 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.79] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.126.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 < jrayhawk> e.g. Debian/Ubuntu/Steambox have /bin/sh -> /bin/dash, the bajillion varieties of embedded Linux networking products have /bin/sh -> /bin/busybox 13:50 < jrayhawk> Oh yeah, and most initramfses are using busybox, too. 13:55 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:58 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 <@heath> does anyone have access to this video? 14:01 <@heath> http://www.jove.com/video/50268/designing-a-bio-responsive-robot-from-dna-origami 14:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05 -!- juul [~juul@static.2.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 < ParahSailin> actually, bcl is surprisingly easy to deal with 14:08 < ParahSailin> theres like no reason to have to use illumina's shitty casava 14:10 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.14.123] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-83-158.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 < ParahSailin> even the .pos files encoding cluster positions are pretty straightforward 14:15 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:18 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.119] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:18 < Technicus> Hello, I am new to robotics, and trying to learn about visual tracking/sensing and how it is processed in the evaluation of autonamous decision making. What resources should I review to learn about this subject? 14:19 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.14.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:19 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:23 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:35 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:38 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.113.46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:43 <@heath> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23893007 14:44 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.3791%2F50268 14:45 <@heath> hm, something wrong with this addey? 14:45 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.12.180] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.113.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:46 -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-83-158.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47 -!- juul [~juul@static.2.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.13.26] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.12.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:02 <@heath> http://ecsource.jove.com/CDNSource/50268_Bachelet_070513_F2_Web.mp4 15:02 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:04 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.13.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.48] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:32 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:2d82:5e76:15ea:7784] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:34 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.119] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:45 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.240] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-106-242-42.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:52 < jrayhawk> badass 15:53 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.12.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:53 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.12.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:07 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:81bd:bb68:8b88:2e2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11 < kanzure> have i mentioned i hate js today? https://github.com/aaronallport/generator-angular-require/issues/8 16:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.118.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:16 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@30-79-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:20 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:21 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.118.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:23 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.119.10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.119.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.121.254] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:40 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.100] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.121.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:42 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-106-242-42.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:07 * heath has switched from using requirejs to handle modules to letting ng handle modules 17:08 <@heath> the only nastiness now is that the files are cocatenated into one large file which isn't nice for debugging 17:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.121.176] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 < kanzure> source maps 17:11 < kanzure> but also, the default seems to be "insert lots of script tags into your index.html file" and why the fuck would i want that? 17:11 < kanzure> i guess i should add a minifier to my build process 17:14 <@heath> you should just use grunt concat, so you don't hav eto insert lots of script tags manually 17:14 <@heath> s/\,// 17:14 <@heath> at least that's the current thought process 17:15 <@heath> i'd like to switch over to reactjs soon 17:16 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.122.29] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:16 <@heath> thinking of trying out nightwatch + react + om || reagent 17:17 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.121.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:18 <@heath> but then... i need harp, because i still want to use jade and stylus 17:18 <@heath> and harp has yet to build out the plugin system they have been talking about... 17:18 <@heath> hrm... this needs working on 17:20 < kanzure> i don't remember why substack hates grunt 17:21 < kanzure> heath: angularjs blows, https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5122 17:22 < kanzure> does angularjs handle modules that aren't angularjs modules? 17:23 <@heath> no, that's a manual process 17:23 < kanzure> bleh 17:23 < kanzure> you are not bringing me good news 17:25 <@heath> i need to try out this: https://npmjs.org/package/bower-installer 17:26 < kanzure> i've been using that 17:26 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.122.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.122.184] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:26 < kanzure> oh wait, no 17:26 < kanzure> i am using a grunt-bower-install thing 17:26 < kanzure> specifically grunt-bower-install 17:27 <@heath> reqiurejs requires you to manually update its file everytime you want to create a new controller, it's tedious compared to grunt concat 17:27 <@heath> yeah, sourcemaps needs to go in place 17:27 < kanzure> generator-angular-require does not require you to manually update the file, but it's scaffolding so it's the other side of evil 17:28 * heath walks away for awhile 17:35 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.92] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.122.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:43 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.123.100] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:44 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:51 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.13.98] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.123.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.29] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:57 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.13.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.124.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:27 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.125.189] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:27 -!- justanotheruser2 [~justanoth@74.45.125.189] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.12.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:32 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@74.45.125.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.33] has quit [Changing host] 18:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:36 -!- justanotheruser2 [~justanoth@74.45.125.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:43 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.122.53] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- justanotheruser2 [~justanoth@95.211.149.213] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:46 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.122.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.126.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:54 -!- justanotheruser2 [~justanoth@95.211.149.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:56 -!- n_bentha [~GuanYu@75.111.205.200] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:01 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.149.213] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@74.45.126.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:06 < ParahSailin> hm, so sshdroid is just dropbear with adware? 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21:06 -!- brownies [~brownies@unaffiliated/brownies] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.122.236] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.122.236] has quit [Changing host] 21:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 < n_bentha> kanzure, i'm mostlikely moving labs soon 21:12 -!- Tukotih_ [~tukotih@unaffiliated/tukotih] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 < n_bentha> to one where my PI is never in the lab! 21:13 < n_bentha> and tenured w/ lots of money for 10+ years of research and lots of down time. 21:13 < n_bentha> im super excited 21:13 < kanzure> full tenure? 21:13 < kanzure> what are the terms 21:16 < n_bentha> pm 21:17 < n_bentha> kanzure, why don't you have ops? 21:17 < kanzure> i turn it off sometimes 21:18 < kanzure> so are the 'instructors' in this document technically on the tenure track? 21:18 < n_bentha> fuck if i know. the bastard i work for now doesn't deserve it 21:19 < kanzure> hehe "Evidence of professional service contributions" 21:19 < n_bentha> but yes, i'd assume that they are all on 'tenure track'. they have to apply for tenure every few years 21:19 < kanzure> "i drew myself giving you the finger and published it in the journal of fuck off" 21:19 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ 21:19 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-tn] by kanzure 21:19 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+nt] by ChanServ 21:19 <@kanzure> what 21:19 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-nt] by kanzure 21:20 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+nt] by ChanServ 21:20 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-q gradstudentbot!*@*] by kanzure 21:20 <@kanzure> gradstudentbot: tenure! 21:20 < gradstudentbot> I don't know what to tell you, I thought I would have graduated by now. 21:25 < n_bentha> :O 21:42 <@kanzure> n_bentha: so what do you plan to do with this new overwhelming amount of power? 21:44 < n_bentha> fuck bitches, get money 21:44 <@kanzure> that is your academic plan? 21:45 < n_bentha> no, i'm off to medical school. i'm just going to work normal hours and take as many breaks as possible while doing just enough to publish 21:45 < n_bentha> realistic expectations are the best, amirite? 21:46 <@kanzure> normal hours 21:47 < n_bentha> 9-5 21:48 < n_bentha> but i can probably twist my pi's arm to let me do 7-3 21:50 < ParahSailin> yo 21:51 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:51 <@kanzure> i don't even know what tenure in a medical school implies 21:51 <@kanzure> does that mean you get to inherit the blood slide collection? 21:51 <@kanzure> the collection of preserved gall bladders 21:52 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:52 <@kanzure> maybe you will be assigned to the fingernail emporium 21:58 -!- voodster [~je@95.129.166.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:02 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:2d82:5e76:15ea:7784] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:03 < n_bentha> lol kanzure, pretty much the same as a regular univ, but more emphasis on grant money 22:05 < ParahSailin> isnt that the entire emphasis?\ 22:05 < ParahSailin> at either.. 22:11 < n_bentha> undergraduate institutions value teaching abilities and professionalism slightly more 22:12 < ParahSailin> heh 22:29 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.128.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:30 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:31 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:47 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:51 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- Tukotih__ is now known as Tukotih_ 23:39 -!- voodster [~je@95.129.166.182] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:51 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun Feb 02 00:00:52 2014