--- Log opened Tue Feb 04 00:00:54 2014
00:08 < superkuh> Freenode is only allowing one connection per IP right now. That might be why it is gone.
00:09 < jrayhawk> empirically untrue. /whois kanzure /whois fenn /whois gnusha
00:11 < superkuh> Perhaps it is only from certain blocks of the net that the rate limit is on.
00:12 < superkuh> Like Comcast home IP.
00:12 < delinquentme> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18046993/recommended-way-to-use-autoconf-archive-macros-and-other-3rd-party-macros/21540171#21540171
00:12 < delinquentme> if anyone wants to help me out
00:12 < delinquentme> 500 points on Stack Overflow :D
00:13 < delinquentme> aso this is cool
00:13 < delinquentme> https://order.universitywafer.com/default.aspx?cat=Silicon
00:14 < delinquentme> and I don't quite know what to do with it right now
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07:19 < utopiah> http://eterni.me
07:20 < utopiah> I guess I'd like to at least see the code that made my "immortal self" run forever...
07:20 < kanzure> who was that asshole in the transhumanism community doing the same thing?
07:20 < kanzure> everyone was groaning about it for a very long time
07:20 < kanzure> until finally it voluntarily died
07:25 < kanzure> wow the inventory system at biocurious does not include a column for who owns a piece of equipment
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07:47 < kanzure> regulation of bitcoin in different jurisdictions, report to US congress http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/regulation-of-bitcoin-in-selected-jurisdictions
07:47 < kanzure> (pdf)
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08:36 < ParahSailin> kanzure: oh, looks like bcl was documented after all http://supportres.illumina.com/documents/myillumina/ceb38810-038f-410a-b0d6-db0c1f774b28/bcl2fastq_userguide_15038058a.pdf
08:38 < kanzure> meh, at least now you can release some library or w/e
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09:06 < ParahSailin> yeah doesnt change anything
09:06 < ParahSailin> and now i know definitively what the .filters and .control files do
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09:30 < kanzure> pasky: i have noticed that people from ukraine and the czech republic have a strong tendency to prefer git history rewriting (rebasing, commit pruning, etc.) is there any reason why, or am i just finding weirdos
09:31 < chris_99> i don't like the fact that github apparently lets you rewrite history
09:32 < kanzure> that's git actually
09:33 < chris_99> you can stop it with config
09:33 < chris_99> stuff
09:34 < ParahSailin> kanzure: im going to bay area thurs-sun
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09:36 < kanzure> consider visiting langton labs, maybe biocurious (although they are in critical abandon ship mode.. might be funny to watch i guess), ryan's hackerspace thing (i think it's east bay somewhere?)
09:37 < kanzure> ah here it is
09:37 < kanzure> http://www.dailycal.org/2014/01/27/new-hackerspace-berkeley-biolabs-opens-southwest-berkeley/
09:37 < ParahSailin> i wonder if i should get in touch with schloendorn
09:37 < kanzure> oh yeah what happened to counter culture labs
09:37 < kanzure> juul: what happened to counter culture labs. wasn't that your doing?
09:39 < kanzure> ParahSailin: quick pm
09:39 < pasky> kanzure: I like history rewriting myself :) but I also think you are just finding weirdos
09:40 < pasky> (hmm, actually when I think about it I don't do it that much... especially not rebase, mostly just amending commits)
09:40 < kanzure> ParahSailin: i want you to run into this guy http://www.anselmlevskaya.com/
09:40 < ParahSailin> oh, yeah i might like to see cambrian's shit
09:44 < kanzure> any interest in meeting max hodak (transcriptic.com)?
09:46 < ParahSailin> sure
09:51 < kanzure> okay well that's enough hate mail for now
09:52 < kanzure> btw there's also 3scan/todd huffman and some openworm people. but you will probably run into them if you go hang out at langton labs for a few hours.
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09:54 < ParahSailin> do you know anyone who might potentially want a roommate?
09:55 < kanzure> i have someone that needs a person to stay at his place for the month of february
09:55 < kanzure> in san francisco
09:56 < drazak> kanzure: what do you think about columbia in NY for last 2 years of undergrad
09:56 < delinquentme> ParahSailin, you're welcome to my place  -- gonna be vacant for another few weeks
09:56 < delinquentme> its in oakland
09:57 < kanzure> hah, man, i don't know
09:58 < kanzure> why are you so nice to him after he's shat all over you for years
09:58 < delinquentme> *shrug*
09:58 < delinquentme> kanzure, sometimes you strike me as pretty
09:58 < delinquentme> ... caddy
09:58 < delinquentme> or is it catty
09:58 < ParahSailin> meow
10:00 < delinquentme> And part of being a big kid is overlooking when people DO shit all over you
10:02 < kanzure> but is it possible that he shits over you because he has things he thinks about you that he actually believes
10:02 < kanzure> instead of just being random shit maybe he actually says things intentionally or with reasons
10:02 < kanzure> maybe i am too optimistic
10:03 < delinquentme> kanzure, shut up
10:03 < delinquentme> thanks :D
10:03 < delinquentme> being a bamf programmer is no excuse for acting like some preteen
10:05 < kanzure> bamf?
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10:06 < ParahSailin> i think its in canada
10:06 < ParahSailin> you ski there
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10:14 < kanzure> "aerial imagery as a service for farmers" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7179137 http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/yc-backed-terravion-launches-aerial-imagery-as-a-service-for-farmers/ http://www.terravion.com/
10:14 < kanzure> that would also be interesting for commodity trading
10:14 < kanzure> "oh look the crops are on fire.."
10:15 < ParahSailin> well you can see how much the coffee is in bloom, which is quite variable year to year
10:15 < ParahSailin> and has big effect on price
10:16 < kanzure> agriculture prediction for an entire country's economy
10:16 < kanzure> i mean at least for crops
10:17 < ParahSailin> coffee traders actually do aerial photography to see how much is in bloom in a season
10:17 < kanzure> drazak: i've known you for a long time. you don't need it.
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10:18 < kanzure> just coffee traders? or which ones.. or, what?
10:18 < kanzure> do all coffee traders look at this data?
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10:18 < kanzure> surely not all of them are doing their custom postprocessing of the imagery data
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10:19 < ParahSailin> no, like they charter a plane to get proprietary info
10:19 < kanzure> hah that's hilarious
10:19 < ParahSailin> another good one is seeing how long the container ship line at ports in brazil are
10:19 < ParahSailin> the ports are pretty slow, and the length of the line correlates with sugar supply
10:19 < kanzure> why would that work? can't you just pay some extra ships to show up
10:20 < ParahSailin> right, # of ships is proportional to sugar supply, but the port has only has capacity to load at constant rate
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10:36 < drazak> kanzure: i don't, but i do wamt to teach others, which requires being publically recognized as being knowledgable which means a degree
10:36 < ParahSailin> colombia is practically an ivy league uni
10:52 < cpopell> why are we talking about columbia
10:52 < drazak> more importantly they have lots of cool math and science going on
10:52 < kanzure> cpopell: drazak is going to give up years of progress to join a school
10:53 < cpopell> Mm. My ex went to Barnard
10:53 < cpopell> (which is the all-women's part of Columbia)
10:53 < drazak> kanzure: first i need to give up years to get into school
10:54 < kanzure> drazak: can't you teach without being credulous?
10:54 < drazak> not any place inferesting
10:55 < cpopell> drazak: when not teach in a MOOC?
10:55 < cpopell> *why
10:55 < drazak> mooc?
10:55 < cpopell> online course
10:55 < drazak> because you need to be credible
10:56 < drazak> and can't reach a wide diverse audience
10:57 < kanzure> you can't reach a wide audience on the internets?
10:57 < kanzure> news to me
10:59 < ParahSailin> sometimes you gotta pay your dues to get a sinecure
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11:04 < juri_> i've got my first class scheduled this evening.
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11:06 < juri_> teaching post-snowden digital attack / defense lessons.
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11:08 < cpopell> juri_ I'd consider making it out if I didn't' have an interview tomorrow
11:10 < drazak> kanzure: sure, you can read them, but they can't reach you
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11:11 < drazak> I guess I"m in it for the meatspace experience
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15:02 < kanzure> juri_: do you know a thing called epic
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16:10 < kanzure> "Standard Chartered traders use an excel to Haskell interface for risk management and trade execution."
16:10 < kanzure> "Tsuru capital is the largest hedge fund to use Haskell for trading but there many smaller shops like Alpha Heavy Industries."
16:12 < kanzure> "The problem with Excel is a problem of state. It's great for viewing immutable information (although custom web apps aren't difficult for most basic tasks), but as soon as you get into running production processes in Excel things fall apart. A single stray keystroke populates a random cell, which blows up your calculations, and you can't figure out what you did. This has happened dozens of times in my career in finance, and I've found no ...
16:12 < kanzure> ... reasonable solution to it."
16:12 < kanzure> that would be funny if it wasn't sad
16:13 < ParahSailin> heh
16:13 < ParahSailin> bankers love them excel
16:14 < kanzure> so it seems like they need a way to mark a cell as immutable
16:14 < kanzure> wouldn't this just be a simple plugin/extension
16:14 < ParahSailin> there is a way to lock cells
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16:14 < kanzure> why do you know that
16:15 < kanzure> i had to use excel back in middle school and high school and i guess i picked up a few things, but never that thing
16:16 < ParahSailin> excel locked cells are super obnoxious too
16:16 < ParahSailin> cant even click on them or select them
16:16 < kanzure> ah that blows
16:16 < ParahSailin> you can reference them if you type in the pointer manually
16:16 < kanzure> iirc windows and excel in general allow you to create custom cell widgets
16:17 < kanzure> oh, being able to change the value anyway? hrm.
16:17 < kanzure> *definition
16:17 < ParahSailin> nah you still cant change value without unlocking
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16:19 < kanzure> other bucket list thing regarding excel is cad integration
16:19 < kanzure> i know everyone does it
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16:19 < kanzure> they have spreadsheets for their dimensions of their foobar widgets
16:19 < kanzure> so it might as well update the actual model tolerances/constraints
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16:35 < kanzure> https://stripe.com/blog/ctf3-architecture
16:35 < kanzure> jrayhawk: is this a sane solution for git-shell https://github.com/stripe-ctf/poseidon
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17:39 < jrayhawk> uh... what are you doing with poseidon and git-shell that git-daemon wouldn't already do
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17:42 < kanzure> apparently their problem was something like high load
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17:47 < jrayhawk> oh, poseidon is for a post-receive hook
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22:22 < ParahSailin> http://www.diysmt.com/forum.php
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22:24 < kanzure> hackmepls.php
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