--- Log opened Sun Mar 16 00:00:33 2014 00:00 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.136.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:15 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@c-98-246-10-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:15 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@c-98-246-10-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:15 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:47 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:07 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-147-232-206.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:9d94:f59c:db0e:14ec] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:18 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:38 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p5B13A04B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:38 -!- ThomasEgi 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Viper168 08:25 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@2001:67c:2190:c0de:9d94:f59c:db0e:14ec] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:27 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:32 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@bas1-ottawa08-1167922370.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@116.sub-70-196-9.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@116.sub-70-196-9.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26 < kanzure> archels: depends on what you mean by obsolete 09:26 < kanzure> archels: i bet phonelines will still be around in lots of countries. there's infrastructure costs.. 09:39 -!- pyotr [~hrouhan@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 <@archels> yeah, but phones as we know them will be gone 09:40 < kanzure> for some reason i find it hilarious that i have to reboot my phone 09:40 < kanzure> that's like having to reflash your toilet 09:46 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@ool-4356bfd0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:52 < kanzure> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/science/billionaires-with-big-ideas-are-privatizing-american-science.html?hp&_r=1 10:02 -!- nsh [~nsh@host86-158-75-184.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:15 -!- nsh [~nsh@host86-141-90-28.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@c-98-246-10-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@c-98-246-10-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:27 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- just[dead] is now known as justanotheruser 11:12 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has 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Terry Fisher this Harvard Law profess, wrote a book detailing the idea for that same proposal. I don't agree that it is unworkable. Any system can be gamed so they need devise a way to align incentives. There was a paper recently proposing changing scientific peer review to just hand out money to every ... 14:20 < kanzure> ... registered researcher in a country. Give them 100K and have them required to pass on 50K to other researchers they think are doing interesting work. This is a kind of prediction market instead of using peer review to hand out grants." 14:21 < kanzure> "You could set up a basic income type stipend that everyone is allocated for consumption of entertainment. Then you vote with your stipend by sending it to the different artists you support. Instead of rewarding based entirely on downloads or streaming, you could track the amounts of downloads/streams and give 50% of your basic entertainment stipend to that and 50% to artists you choose to support, regardless of whether you download or ... 14:21 < kanzure> ... stream them. There are many ways to shape the algorithm to mitigate against manipulation. " 14:21 < kanzure> wasn't microryza gonna start dumping in grant money at some point? what happened to that idea 14:21 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- ielo_ [~ielo@host-78-147-232-206.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- EnLilaSko- is now known as EnLilaSko 14:31 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@host-85-30-145-65.sydskane.nu] has quit [Changing host] 14:31 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@host-80-47-103-27.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- ielo_ [~ielo@host-78-147-232-206.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55 -!- nsh [~nsh@host86-141-90-28.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:56 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@host-80-47-103-27.as13285.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:17 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.219.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sandeepkr, pyotr, yoleaux, jcluck, chris_99, ElixirVitae, yashgaroth, juul, drewbot 15:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jcluck, yashgaroth, pyotr, chris_99, drewbot, ElixirVitae 15:56 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.218.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@hwaet.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- juul [~juul@static.2.202.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11 < ParahSailin> chris_99: heat engines scale well 16:33 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.136.172] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:36 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.218.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-106-242-42.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:44 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:05 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14 -!- justanotheruser is now known as just[dead] 17:20 -!- just[dead] is now known as justanotheruser 17:25 -!- Adifex is now known as it 17:25 -!- it is now known as Adifex 17:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15 < kanzure> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/327919589/the-microfactory-a-machine-shop-in-a-box 18:15 < kanzure> http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/15/5512138/fan-remake-gives-super-mario-64-a-fresh-look 18:22 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:40 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 18:45 -!- dingo_ is now known as dingo 18:56 < kanzure> http://historiesofthingstocome.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/bitcoins-origins-generational.html 18:58 < dingo> i saw yesterday that you can buy a tunnelbear.com vpn account by shipping them honey if you contact them 19:00 < kanzure> sounds like a clever way of implying you're a honey pot 19:00 < dingo> haha 19:00 < kanzure> gag orders not withstanding.. 19:00 < dingo> have a honeyshell on our honeyserver 19:00 < kanzure> :) 19:01 < kanzure> "we're a giant honey matrix of honey goodness over here. btw we accept bitcoin." 19:03 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:03 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:22 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:23 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 -!- Lemminkainen [uid2346@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbwlpkokpwrthwyn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 < kanzure> .title http://www.indiebiotech.com/?p=240 19:34 < yoleaux> Ireland’s First Biohackerspace: In Cork 19:37 < kanzure> he is worse at writing than i thought 19:37 < kanzure> what's with all the fluff? 19:45 < Lemminkainen> how else you going to fill word-count when you have nothing of substance to say? 19:53 < kanzure> images? 19:53 < kanzure> possibly of cats 19:56 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:57 -!- justanotheruser is now known as DOGGE 19:57 -!- DOGGE is now known as justanotheruser 20:18 < dingo> http://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon07-ipsec/index.html 20:23 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:37 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:47 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@2a00:1a28:1251:46:246:93:201:1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:00 -!- pyotr [~hrouhan@24.60.79.55] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:09 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:21 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@bas1-ottawa08-1167922370.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@bas1-ottawa08-1167922370.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@bas1-ottawa08-1167922370.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:31 -!- entelech1os [~elysium@181.194.135.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.136.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:45 < kanzure> i don't understand it 21:49 < Mokstar> I don't understand it well enough 21:58 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:50be:643c:82f1:475d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:04 -!- justanotheruser is now known as just[dead] 22:09 -!- just[dead] is now known as justanotheruser 22:19 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- Lemminkainen [uid2346@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbwlpkokpwrthwyn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:34 < kanzure> http://blog.vivekhaldar.com/post/79843441901/the-automatic-corporation 22:38 -!- ruphos [~ruphos@biofag.com] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 22:38 -!- ruphos [~ruphos@biofag.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:42 < bkero> kanzure: nice 22:45 < kanzure> Mokstar: that could be the title of my biography 23:06 < kanzure> the comic is okay http://historiesofthingstocome.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/bitcoins-origins-generational.html 23:14 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:15 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- Mokstar [~Moktar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:57 < kanzure> https://wzrtr6gpencksu3d.tor2web.org/ "evil github" "It's just a .onion github clone to pseudoanon share booters/LOIC and other "evil" code. It was called GitTor but I guess they recently changed the name." (obviously LOIC is bullshit, but maybe there's other interesting things there) 23:58 < justanotheruser> kanzure: does it have a different ToS? Or is there a reason people can't just commit over tor? 23:58 < justanotheruser> (commit to github.org I mean) --- Log closed Mon Mar 17 00:00:34 2014