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00:00 < nmz787> and solenoid driven valves
00:00 < nmz787> they're about 1cm square each or more tho
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01:14 < nmz787> https://github.com/SupplyFrame/eagle2kicad
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01:34 < archels> paperbot: http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/369/1644/20130175.long
01:34 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1098%2Frstb.2013.0175
01:35 < archels> \o/
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02:43 < jrayhawk_> ls -altr
02:43 < jrayhawk_> whoops
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02:49 < blueskin> jrayhawk_: heh, at least it wasn't a password
02:50 < blueskin> also, ls -A is nicer than ls -a in many cases as it excludes . and ..
02:50 < blueskin> it's like tail -F vs -f
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03:18 < chris_99> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-33338-5_4
03:18 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/abf3cf5a125b7c7cc7f1cad856e75d15.txt
03:32 < jrayhawk_> there was a kernel dev who socketed his .bash_history over to twitter
03:33 < jrayhawk_> took a few years for him to accidently enter a password and give up on the concept
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03:36 < chris_99> i managed to leak my credit card details over IRC once, when playing with one of those USB readers that function like a keyboard
03:36 < jrayhawk_> haha
03:40 < jrayhawk_> https://github.com/gregkh/bti/ ah, here it is
03:40 < chris_99> haha
03:40 < chris_99> that seems like such a bad idea
03:42 < jrayhawk_> oh hey, it's even packaged in debian
03:43 < jrayhawk_> http://www.kroah.com/log/diary/2010_01_05.html
03:43 < gradstudentbot> May I ask what formula did you use?
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08:05 < chris_99> http://hackaday.io/project/795-Simulating-an-Electric-Fish-sensory-system
08:05 < chris_99> i thought that was interesting
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08:32 < archels> interesting to see that on hackaday
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09:30 < kanzure> transcriptic.com is doing $11/year for -80 freezing
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09:58 < kanzure> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21417716
09:58 < kanzure> .title
09:58 < yoleaux> Complete pulp regeneration after pulpectom... [Tissue Eng Part A. 2011]
09:59 < kanzure> "These Japanese researchers are conducting a human trial at the moment. They take pulp from a tooth, put it into a nectrotic tooth and after 14 days it is vital again (regrowth of blood vessels and nerves)"
09:59 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1089%2Ften.TEA.2010.0615
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10:22 < kanzure> some okay complaints about the torcoin proposal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7850738
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11:02 < joepie91_> <Asparagir> The Internet Archive now hosts 20 GB of 1000 people's DNA.  You're welcome.  https://archive.org/details/OpenSNP.org_-_2014-06-03
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11:27 < kanzure> ncbi has way more than that
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11:54 < ParahSailin> i somewhat retract what i said about ncbi's sra format
11:54 < ParahSailin> it seems to have some pretty significant compression
11:55 < ParahSailin> sam-dump of an sra file yields bam files 50% bigger
11:55 < ParahSailin> its still hideously computation and memory consuming to convert sra to X though
11:56 < ParahSailin> if it takes you 10 days to download 3.5 TB, it takes you at least 4 days on 8 cores and raid
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11:59 < dpk> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=146764
11:59 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F146760.146764
11:59 < dpk> this appears to have downloaded a 404 page onto my computer
12:00 < kanzure> ask ParahSailin.. sometimes libgen works sometimes it doesn't. honestly i'm not sure when it gets bypassed.
12:01 < ParahSailin> kanzure: have the latest patches from delinquentme made it in?
12:02 < kanzure> paperbot: .reload
12:02 < dpk> right, so, i just used my University of York search
12:03 < dpk> comes up with the article, says "full text available"
12:03 < kanzure> you should contribute that to paperbot as a fallback
12:03 < gradstudentbot> I think my PI hates me.
12:03 < dpk> click "get full text" …
12:03 < dpk> takes me to the page with "buy this article"
12:03 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=4bcb4723 Carl Crott: added in check for presence of paper
12:03 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=1088fc64 Carl Crott: added in external login credential handling
12:03 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=3b62248a Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #29 from carlcrott/master
12:03 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
12:03 < paperbot> gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-07-09 18:45:35)
12:03 < dpk> i see no way to get this through any of my normal knowledge-stealing methods
12:04 < kanzure> backup plans: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles
12:04 < dpk> university of york search only works if you're a "student" there
12:04 < dpk> which i "am"
12:04 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=146764
12:04 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F146760.146764
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12:13 < dpk> right, disabling my university SOCKS proxy and using their stupid ezproxy thing made it work
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12:25 < Daeken> to further my cyborg-y-ness, i want flex sensor gloves that talk bluetooth as user interface devices.  really want a decent interface to google glass and the moverio, which doesn't exist at the moment.  anyone know of any?  i've been hunting high and low, but i'm not finding anything OTS.
12:26 < Daeken> hell, i'd even take a wearable bt keyboard
12:28 < gradstudentbot> I did so much qPCR today.
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12:50 < kanzure> Daeken: i really like this thing, http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLEXSLV-Zagg-ZAGGkeys-FLEX/dp/B00695OFE2 and it fits in my pocket
12:56 < Daeken> hmm, interesting
12:57 < Daeken> i'm concerned about getting something like that and not being able to really use it one-handed though.  kinda sucks.
12:59 < kanzure> are you missing a hand
13:00 < Daeken> no, but i want to be able to use this one-handed, for use on the go.  two-handed keyboards are a pain when you're walking and whatnot.
13:01 < kanzure> have you seen the twiddler
13:02 < Daeken> yeah, but it's wired.  that said, i could just hook up a usb-hid to bluetooth converter.  i dunno.
13:03 < kanzure> you could strap the zagg keyboard over your chest and type on your chest like a musical instrument
13:03 < Daeken> haha, i could, yeah
13:03 < kanzure> others would be able to see what you type, though
13:03 < Daeken> i'm not too concerned about that
13:04 < Daeken> primary use case for this is responding to texts and looking things up quickly on google glass, primarily.
13:04 < kanzure> if you had a bunch of accelerometers and gyros, i'd say just buy a glove or two and wire it up
13:05 < Daeken> i'm honestly tempted to just pick up a peregrine glove and hack on bt support haha.
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13:05 < kanzure> then you can make up elaborate gang signs that correspond to elaborate shell commands
13:05 < kanzure> "when i do this with my hands, really i'm injecting shell code"
13:05 < kanzure> how many sensors does that have
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13:06 < Daeken> 38 'touchpoints'
13:06 < kanzure> "Perform over 30 unique actions by touching your fingers."
13:06 < kanzure> how many over 30...
13:06 < Daeken> it doesn't do flex stuff, you just touch points on the fingers.
13:09 < gradstudentbot> I am sponsored by Applied Biosystems.
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14:05 < dbolser> how long did it used to take to sail from europe to south america?
14:05 < FourFire> several weeks?
14:05 < dbolser> 3 months? 6 months? 1 year?
14:05 < dbolser> hi FourFire
14:05 < FourFire> 6 months was to australia
14:05 < dbolser> wowo
14:06 < FourFire> thinking 9-14 weeks
14:06 < FourFire> look into the"atlantic trade triangle" on the wiki
14:07 < FourFire> probably has trip times there
14:09 < dbolser> I'll go with 12 weeks... just to bug someone complaining about 12 hour flight ;-)
14:10 < gradstudentbot> His lab is so awkward.
14:12 < FourFire> does someone here maintain gradstudentbot ?
14:12 < gradstudentbot> Who used the last of the growth medium?
14:14 < dbolser> is she not human?
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14:49 < kanzure> FourFire: me
14:49 < kanzure> dbolser: it's a bot
14:50 < FourFire> FourFire, FourFire FourFire  FourFire
14:50 < FourFire> U w0t m8?
14:50 < FourFire> U wan sum fuk ?
14:50 < kanzure> you asked if someone here maintains that bot
14:50 < FourFire> sorry what?
14:50 < kanzure> so i answered you
14:50 < FourFire> yeah right
14:50 < kanzure> ugh get out
14:51 < FourFire> You avin a giggle FourFire ?
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16:00 < eudoxia> why would gradstudentbot need maintenance anyways
16:00 < gradstudentbot> Does this look contaminated to you?
16:07 < kanzure> he has a point
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16:44 < eudoxia> ughhhhh
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18:08 < nmz787_i> so i am redirecting stdout and stderr to a textbox in my gui... then i use subprocess.popen to open a new process, and use popen to redirect the new process's stderr and stdout to a PIPE... then in my launcher I have a thread listening to that pipe, and also printing any messages to the same text box (in the launcher)... at some point the new process re-redirects it's stdout and stderr to a textbox it has
18:09 < nmz787_i> now my problem is, if the second process crashes, I don't know what the errors are, because they were heading to itself, which has crashed so are lost
18:09 < nmz787_i> I'm thinking of just logging stdout and stderr to a file
18:10 < nmz787_i> in addition to the textbox
18:10 < kanzure> sounds like a situation where you could benefit from a named pipe
18:10 < nmz787_i> hmm
18:10 < nmz787_i> so i never redirect to a textbox, but always a named pipe?
18:10 < nmz787_i> so it the crashing textbox doesn't pick up the lines, the other can
18:10 < nmz787_i> hmm
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18:34 < ||0_-_0||> paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201301896/abstract;jsessionid=7B048F34D3961E90009627EA50314296.f01t03?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false
18:34 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fdad577dc5542adfef5640671a909217.txt
18:36 < kanzure> you are very fond of &userIsAuthenticated=false
18:38 < ||0_-_0||> I am not authentic to Wiley
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19:26 < kanzure> fenn: wouldn't roman just say "well, brlcad and opencascade can already read/write cad files"
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21:34 < kanzure> "I'd really like to see a cite for this claim. I looked and could find zero reference to a patent holder's responsibility to enforce in order to maintain a patent's validity. AFAIK a patent holder is free to enforce their patent as they see fit, just as a copyright holder can. Otherwise there could be no such thing as a purely defensive patent, no?"
21:34 < kanzure> i'm pretty sure the "defensive patent" is just marketing lingo, it's still a regular patent
21:36 < ||0_-_0||> why would a defensive patent be any different than a regular patent with the USPTO?
21:36 < ||0_-_0||> the difference is in how you use it
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21:39 < kanzure> right, so it can get acquired and used by someone else, etc.
21:40 < kanzure> http://herman.asia/why-is-go-popular-in-china
21:42 < ||0_-_0||> acquired?
21:42 < ||0_-_0||> why would you do that?
21:42 < ||0_-_0||> better to license it out and make enduring revenues on it, particularly if someone else is now footing the bill for enforcement and litigation on that patent
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22:42 < dingo> goodbye bitches
22:42 < dingo> the internet is full, fuck off
22:44 < kanzure> you need to put up the sign
22:48 < kanzure> what's the correct spectrograph for visualizing music?
22:48 < kanzure> frequency plotted against time doesn't sound right. isn't there more data..
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22:48 < kanzure> http://media.aau.dk/CRISSP/assets_c/2011/04/folk_Bahamian_AS-thumb-470x293-439.jpg
22:56 < dingo> i saw a very good application about helping you find the notes of a song ... maybe i can find it
23:01 < dingo> well this isn't it, http://www.har-bal.com/help/tutorials.html
23:01 < dingo> but the frequency vs. time is a lot like what i have in mind
23:04 < kanzure> dingo, i was just having a sad about baudio today
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23:05 < kanzure> dingo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oz_SwhBixs&t=11m38s
23:05 < kanzure> supposedly you should be able to do sound synthesis more like a midi chip would be doing.. but all of his stuff sounds like annoying beeps.
23:06 < dingo> ehehe
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23:06 < dingo> hadn't heard of it but i like it
23:06 < kanzure> https://github.com/substack/baudio
23:07 < dingo> yeah i saw.. php turned into js i see
23:07 < kanzure> the nodejs people tend to understand packaging, at least
23:07 < kanzure> and separation of concerns
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23:18 < dingo> dang i want ot use this baudio
23:18 < dingo> npm install baudio, then what
23:18 < dingo> im no nodejs guy
23:18 < dingo> documentation isn't exactly for "getting started" folk
23:19 < dingo> ahh, `npm bin`/baudio
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23:20 < kanzure> well, also npm install -g baudio if you want it globally
23:20 < kanzure> dingo: https://github.com/substack/nodepdx-beep-boop-examples/tree/master/example
23:21 < kanzure> also it wants sox installed
23:21 < dingo> yeah i dont know im looking at something else entirely than i thought it was
23:22 < kanzure> hm?
23:22 < dingo> i thought i could give it a .exe file and get a .wav file of the binary
23:22 < kanzure> you could probably do that
23:22 < kanzure> by piping into sox
23:23 < kanzure> there was also that 3d file format visualizer thing... http://binwalk.org/3d-data-visualizations/
23:23 < kanzure> i guess that visualization format could be used for sound, heh
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