--- Log opened Sun Jun 15 00:00:35 2014 00:20 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- bertm13 [ae196a4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.106.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 < bertm13> paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/cm404122f 01:24 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Method%20To%20Incorporate%20Anisotropic%20Semiconductor%20Nanocrystals%20of%20All%20Shapes%20in%20an%20Ultrathin%20and%20Uniform%20Silica%20Shell.txt 02:09 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: austerity chic brand destruction] 02:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:16 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-149-142-84.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:34 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d108-180-140-115.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:58 -!- petrush [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has quit [Quit: quit] 03:07 < seba-> kanzure, why people don't shit theirselves, if they are under powerlines? 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Does anyone here know of such a beast?" 11:00 -!- seba- [~hel1@cpe-90-157-233-7.static.amis.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02 -!- seba- [~hel1@cpe-90-157-233-7.static.amis.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 < kanzure> "Mechanical effects supervisor George Gibbs said the film was the most difficult one of his career.[11] He visited a museum to negotiate renting a small French World War I tank, but decided he wanted to make one." 11:15 < kanzure> "closing as too abstract to take action on" hehe 11:18 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:19 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-149-142-84.as13285.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:37 -!- archels [charl@unaffiliated/archels] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:39 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 < kanzure> huh, it occurs to me that thorlabs probably sends paper magazine-style catalogs to labs 11:59 < kanzure> seems like the sort of thing that would be going on 12:16 < kanzure> nmz787: which shipping option do you want? 12:17 < kanzure> fenn: see anything you want? http://www.alltronics.com/ 12:19 < kanzure> jrayhawk_: same goes for you.. since it's shipping near you anyway. 12:19 < gradstudentbot> How does crap like that even get published? 12:26 < kanzure> .title http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html 12:26 < yoleaux> Publicly Available Standards 12:27 < kanzure> archels: i missed your hello earlier today, sorry 12:29 < archels> no problem, that was only just now 12:30 < kanzure> oh, oops. did you need something? 12:30 < kanzure> time is hard 12:34 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has quit [Changing host] 12:34 -!- archels [charl@unaffiliated/archels] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@23-19-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46 < jrayhawk_> kanzure: nope, I think my only EE project is one I don't know how to make progress on anyway. 12:54 * archels knows how to make progress, but... time is hard. 13:01 < kanzure> now i'm curious, what project is that? 13:02 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 < archels> the latest is transcranial current stimulation 13:16 < FourFire> archels, you've tested it? 13:17 < kanzure> well, i meant jrayhawk 13:22 < jrayhawk_> http://www.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/doc/GDM-FW900.pdf my isolated G-board blows its fuse; i would like to correct whatever the problem is 13:25 -!- Miriam [~Miriam@CPE0c473dc73481-CM0c473dc73480.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:27 < archels> FourFire: partly, waiting for prototype PCBs to come in from China 13:28 < archels> this is only for tDCS, not AC or patterned stimulation 13:28 < archels> so, plenty left to do :) 13:29 < kanzure> breadboarding? 13:40 < archels> that's part of it 13:46 -!- petrush [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:15 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- Miriam [~Miriam@CPE0c473dc73481-CM0c473dc73480.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 14:35 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 14:49 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:07 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:13 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:48 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 16:09 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.109.12] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.109.12] has quit [Changing host] 16:09 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:38 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:39 < kanzure> hmm 17:00 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@95.5.81.183] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:26 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@95.5.81.183] has quit [Changing host] 17:26 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:30 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@23-19-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:33 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:40 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=b4465ccd Bryan Bishop: igem projects from 2012 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/projects/ 17:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 < nmz787> archels: why from china, if you're in the U.S. why not OSHPark? 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22:09 < yashgaroth> "overhead" costs of $300k 22:09 < gradstudentbot> I am kind of curious what he has a Ph.D. in, I can't really find this anywhere, it could be underwater basket weaving for all I know. 22:10 < yashgaroth> actually the case it comes in looks pretty snazzy...ok I'm done 22:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:16 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=2c5f623d Bryan Bishop: some igem projects from 2013 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/projects/ 22:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=da6747bd Bryan Bishop: more igem projects from 2013 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/projects/ 22:26 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03 < kanzure> "It would take much more than two months of economic turmoil to endanger Alcor's patients. First of all, that is not enough to "evaporate the liquid nitrogen". We have run a test and found that a Bigfoot dewar (empty of patients, obviously) did not run dry for something like five months. Because the aluminum pods that house patients are conductive, so long as there are even a few inches of LN2 at the bottom, the temperature even near the top ... 23:03 < kanzure> ... is within something like 30 degC of LN2 temperature -- plenty cold enough. The boil-off rates vary, but I think the minimum would be 3 or 4 months." 23:04 < kanzure> "(And no other organization has a dedicated Patient Care Trust Fund whose finances are governed separately and cannot be raided for non-patient care purposes.) " 23:04 < kanzure> well that's stupid 23:04 -!- petrush [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has quit [Quit: quit] 23:24 < kanzure> nmz787: order id is F69157 23:37 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:37 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 23:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.114.176] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.114.176] has quit [Changing host] 23:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37 < archels> nmz787: I'm not in the US 23:37 < archels> the turnaround time of seeed is not optimal, but if you pay a little extra for decent shippping it's manageable 23:39 < kanzure> why did you need a pcb? 23:40 < archels> tDCS-DIY project 23:40 < kanzure> yeah but why not breadboard? 23:42 < archels> passed that stage 23:42 < kanzure> still confused 23:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 < kanzure> reasons i would make a pcb: so that i don't have to wire up a bajillion breadboards 23:44 < kanzure> and that's an imperial bajillion 23:44 < archels> yeah, but if you skip breadboarding, you tend to end up with bugs in your PCB 23:44 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:44 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 < archels> and iterations are expensive in terms of time and components 23:44 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 23:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:45 < kanzure> huh? 23:45 < kanzure> no i mean, why would you make a pcb at all? 23:46 < archels> you'd prefer to stick to the breadboards for the final product? 23:46 < kanzure> depends on what the final product is... a thing for just-me? 23:47 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:49 < archels> yeah, but breadboards are pretty messy 23:49 < archels> wires getting loose and stuff. 23:50 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:54 < Viper168_> and imo for people learning especially it's bad for actually understanding the circuit as well because the connections aren't visible 23:56 < archels> that's a moot point for open hardware though 23:56 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Jun 16 00:00:36 2014