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Printer by Jim Morris 06:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:54 < cluckj> hi 07:10 < kanzure> hi 07:11 * eudoxia waves 07:11 < kanzure> spherical or planar? 07:12 < eudoxia> an obscure hybrid. you must not have heard of it. 07:18 < cluckj> o_O 07:38 < kanzure> so, spherical 07:41 < eudoxia> i invoke the fifth 07:43 < kanzure> i don't know if we have that one in here 07:44 < eudoxia> the only amendment here is the right not to have one's pipette stolen 07:45 -!- gradstudentbot [~gradstude@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < gradstudentbot> Someone said something about a stolen pipette? 07:49 < dbolser> guilty 07:50 < eudoxia> there's no need to be so territorial about pipettes gradstudentbot 07:50 < gradstudentbot> Oh, that's problematic. 08:10 < kanzure> hm http://www.servodatabase.com/ 08:11 < cluckj> oh gradstudentbot....I missed you 08:11 < gradstudentbot> wow such ethics section 08:18 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93.152.162.95] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31 -!- chido [chidori@pasky.or.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- chido [chidori@pasky.or.cz] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:55 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:55 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:04 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 < gene_hacker> really they were using an epson printer? 09:13 < gene_hacker> those things have piezoelectric inkjets 09:13 < chris_99> theres a pretty good pdf on how they created it iirc 09:16 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:16 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- sheena [~home@S01065039557119af.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:36 < kanzure> yep, it was piezoelectric 09:36 < kanzure> model was discontinued of course 09:39 < seba--> hm 09:39 < seba--> you're always doing something here 09:39 < seba--> lol 09:40 < kanzure> hm? 09:41 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42 < seba--> i feel bad 09:43 < seba--> i'm doing nothing currently :-( 09:43 < seba--> i'm going to do something as soon as i end these exams haha 09:44 < chris_99> what are you studying? 09:48 < [nsh]> applied entelechy 09:52 < kanzure> seba--: i could shame you into looking at that phosphoramidite chemistry stuff 09:52 < kanzure> seba--: i'd be willing to do that as your friend 09:52 < seba--> chris_99, me? 09:52 < chris_99> yeah 09:53 < seba--> kanzure, i will, well i have various projects i have to do actually lol probably one of the first will be to measure H2S concentration in a location which i think is poluted by it, but officially it has "good air" 09:53 < seba--> chris_99, chemistry 09:55 < cluckj> there are a bunch of DIY air quality monitoring projects 09:55 < seba--> cluckj, yes, but they all measure stuff which are already measured 09:58 < seba--> cluckj, well i've bought a H2S sensor already and i've received it, i just need to calibrate it somehow and hook it up on a microcontroller 09:58 < cluckj> nice 09:59 < seba--> cluckj, yes if it works, i'll get money back from a local environmental organisation, yay 10:00 < seba--> but ok, it wasn't much, $20-$30 something like that 10:00 < seba--> + of course microcontroller and all that 10:00 < cluckj> cheaper than the commercial version :) 10:00 < chris_99> i assume it's got an analogue output? 10:00 < seba--> cluckj, yes very 10:01 < seba--> chris_99, i think it has, or it has both, but that's not really a problem 10:01 < seba--> now they are measuring NOx, VOC, CO and O3 iirc 10:01 < seba--> but you can smell a sulfurous smell 10:02 < seba--> there are big oil reservoirs 10:02 < seba--> in the area, connected by a pipeline 10:07 < seba--> also everytime officials measure the air parameters 10:07 < seba--> they limit to those 10:07 < seba--> which is bizzare as there is a distinct sulfuric smell :) 10:08 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:28 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:29 -!- nmz787_i 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lisp 10:53 < kanzure> or bash -c "quoted scriptness" 10:53 < ParahSailin> yeah just got that SO page too 10:54 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:56 < chris_99> paperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jocn_a_00650#.U6m7oGcvCXL 10:56 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dd6c86efe12e1b6d4ab24e1a38dbb09.txt 10:57 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- maaku is now known as Guest56037 11:02 < chris_99> has anyone seen this paper 'Spontaneous Neural Fluctuations Predict Decisions to Attend' per chance 11:04 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:04 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has quit [Changing host] 11:04 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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-!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:34 < archels> I liked the notion of non-destructive uploading though 14:34 < archels> just record from a few electrodes as you read through a dictionary 14:35 < kanzure> limitless is okay if you need to cleanse yourself of that movie 14:35 < archels> yeah Limitless was alright 14:35 < chris_99> oh i liked limitless, theres a sort of v. similar one to that coming out 14:35 < chris_99> called Lucy 14:35 < archels> hah, they played a trailer for that at the cinema 14:35 < ||0_-_0||> go watch The Machine and be done with it 14:36 < chris_99> i didn't think that was that great 14:36 < archels> it looked even more typical-Hollywood-overblown than Transcendence 14:36 < chris_99> heh 14:36 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:38 < ||0_-_0||> works better if you view it as a prequel to Blade Runner 14:38 < chris_99> hmmm heh 14:45 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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sequence databases to find novel binding sites for existing approved drugs?? 15:03 < gradstudentbot> My matlab crashed. 15:03 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 < dingo> at a job interview they asked me what version of redhat i was experienced in, i said "its been a while, I think it was like 5.1, the Manhattan release" -- and they said "Oh, good, thats pretty recent"... but I was talking about the *original* redhat 5.1, dated 1998 .. 15:04 < dingo> i did not correct them 15:09 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:29 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:43 -!- Guest56037 is now known as maaku 16:08 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:35 < joepie91_> public service notice: 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