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07:32 < kanzure> http://pyvideo.org/video/2739/astropy-and-astronomical-tools-part-i
07:32 < kanzure> http://pyvideo.org/video/2735/conda-a-cross-platform-package-manager-for-any-b
07:33 < kanzure> http://pyvideo.org/video/2747/multibody-dynamics-and-control-with-python-part-1
07:33 < kanzure> http://pyvideo.org/video/2745/multibody-dynamics-and-control-with-python-part-2
07:34 < kanzure> http://pyvideo.org/video/2724/reproducible-relocatable-customizable-builds-an
07:35 < kanzure> not sure if i should bother looking at dill if it's being compared to pickle. aren't we already past pickle?
08:23 < dbolser> kanzure: sorry to be a pain, can you repost that link to the orbiting dust cloud?
08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Orbiting%20rainbows%20-%20optical%20manipulation%20of%20aerosols%20and%20the%20beginnings%20of%20future%20space%20construction%20-%20NASA.pdf
08:25 < dbolser> ty
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08:30 < JayDugger> dbolser, you might also find Keith Lofstrom's Server Sky proposal interesting and along the same lines.
08:32 < dbolser> JayDugger: ty
08:32 < JayDugger> You're welcome. Happy reading.
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08:48 < kanzure> still no actual content on http://www.seed-factory.org/project-data/
08:54 < poppingtonic> The civilization seed is going to take a long time to build.
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08:59 < kanzure> http://www.fastcolabs.com/3013789/open-company/my-quest-to-create-self-building-self-tooling-people-free-manufacturing-plants
08:59 < kanzure> ybit3: are you near gadsden
09:00 < ybit3> kanzure: according to google, it's 2 hours away
09:00 < ybit3> in between memphis and nashville
09:02 < ybit3> kanzure: do you know someone there?
09:02 < ybit3> or do you know of someone who's visiting that area?
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09:21 < ybit3> kanzure: you've worked in a legally remote position before
09:22 < ybit3> can you deduct your living expenses (rent, utils, etc.)
09:24 < kanzure> only a percentage of those in particular
09:25 < kanzure> to be totally honest, everyone keeps recommending that i do, but it only ends up being like $200-$400 of deductions which is totally pointless when you're paying waaaay more in taxes
09:26 < kanzure> erm i mean, $400 of /final/ deductions after all the mathy math
09:27 < ParahSailin> ybit3: if you are renting, most likely itemized deductions will not come out ahead for you
09:27 < kanzure> ah maybe that's my problem
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09:27 < kanzure> would explain a lot
09:28 < ParahSailin> typically the only way to get more deduction than standard deduction is to be a church member paying tithe, and having a large amount mortgage interest
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09:32 < ybit3> https://gist.github.com/heath/69748d84fc2d4807ff58
09:32 < ybit3> that's what i'm looking at right now
09:33 < kanzure> pay a cpa
09:34 < ParahSailin> taxes are really easy, you dont need a cpa
09:34 < kanzure> i'm not going to do his taxes for him
09:34 < kanzure> ybit3: dude you're way the hell underpaid here
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09:35 < ybit3> i think 75_000 with the second company is almost assured
09:35 < ybit3> that's about average for this area
09:36 < kanzure> who the fuck cares about area though
09:36 < kanzure> you shouldn't be underpaid just because you live in a shit hole
09:36 < kanzure> if anything, you should be paid /more/
09:36 < kanzure> for living in a low-cost of living area. you know why it's low cost? because nobody wants to live there.
09:37 < JayDugger> Generally correct.
09:37 < ybit3> that's a good point
09:37 < kanzure> ybit you could easily nail 90k/year minimum
09:38 < ybit3> in places like cali, i imagine so
09:38 < kanzure> in california 90k/year is way underpaid
09:38 < kanzure> so, no
09:38 < ybit3> maybe there are some places in cali which would pay that much for remote work
09:38 < kanzure> of course they would, because that's a steal
09:38 < ybit3> which would be an easy sale for me
09:39 < ybit3> every company i talked to in cali though were looking for local workers
09:39 < kanzure> well yeah if you enjoy working next to other remote programmers making 240k/year, sure
09:40 < kanzure> yeah, it's not the easiest thing in the world i guess
09:41 < kanzure> part of the problem is that the number of people seeking non-remote employees is way higher, so you have more noise to sift through
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09:43 < kanzure> check your inbox
09:45 < kanzure> oh those two are from the same company. just be mindful of that.
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10:04 < cluckj> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/biohackers-are-engineering-yeast-to-make-thc
10:17 < ParahSailin> thats a hell of a lot of steps
10:20 < cluckj> I wish I could get out to ireland for that :\
10:30 < JayDugger> WA or CO might cost less in airfare.
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10:37 < cluckj> hah
10:37 < cluckj> I don't mean for the THC
10:37 < JayDugger> Fair enough.
10:38 < cluckj> I mean for the biohacker stuff :P
10:39 < JayDugger> Fair enough.
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10:48 < kanzure> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.pryfi
10:48 < kanzure> seems to be a mac address spoofer, "But we can make an effort to reduce the usefulness of the tracking data for the exploiters. Pry-Fi comes with a War mode, which when enabled tries to make your Android device appear like dozens of people. Just wandering around an area under Wi-Fi location surveillance for a few minutes can ruin the tracking data for the period of your stay."
10:59 < kanzure> http://plover.stenoknight.com/2014/03/guest-post-charless-diy-steno-keyboard.html
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11:22 < kanzure> ybit3: did you look at http://meta-ex.com/
11:44 < kanzure> .title http://www.gelifesciences.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productById/en/GELifeSciences/18113679
11:44 < yoleaux> GE Healthcare Life Sciences  'ÄKTA oligopilot plus 100'
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13:21 < _0bitcount> Anyone here familiar with the work of Jeremy Rifkin?
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13:53 < ||0_-_0||> there's a name I ain't heard in a while
13:54 < ||0_-_0||> _0bitcount what about him?
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13:59 < _0bitcount> I just watched an interview with him. It amazes me that a respected economist may be so clear about the way society and technology are (rapidly) changing.
14:00 < _0bitcount> Most of what I have read about economics still relies in old concepts of either free market economy or socialist/marxist visions.
14:00 < ybit3> kanzure: yeah, the song i listened to wasn't very catchy, but i'll check them out again
14:02 < ybit3> hm, not terrible, i'll let it continue until i can't handle it
14:03 < kanzure> _0bitcount: all of the relevant economics stuff is bitcoin, for your amusement i present http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/
14:04 < ||0_-_0||> _0bitcount not everyone is still a Keynsian dogmatist anymore
14:04 < kanzure> yes now they are dogematists
14:05 < ||0_-_0||> dogecoin, even better than bitcoin or litecoin, has done an excellent job of reminding everyone that money is just a shared illusion
14:05 < ||0_-_0||> if you believe in it, it's real enough
14:05 < kanzure> uh.. or there is actual source code that really exists, you know.
14:06 < ||0_-_0||> blockchain != worth
14:06 < ybit3> oh wait, yeah, i've listened to them :)
14:06 < ybit3> this is the band i liked
14:07 < ybit3> it was repl electric i didn't care for
14:07 < ybit3> http://www.repl-electric.com/
14:07 < ybit3> it's not terrible though
14:07 < ybit3> think i'll give them another listen
14:07 < kanzure> we could do that
14:08 < _0bitcount> kanzure, I haven't had the time to inform myself in depth about cybercurrencies, or however they are named, but definitely bitcoin looks like the next-big-thing. A real paradigm shift.
14:08 < kanzure> oh, well, if you have any questions etc
14:08 < ParahSailin> you're slow, its ethereum now that is the next-big-thing
14:09 < kanzure> i will be really surprised if ethereum is able to launch without bloodshed
14:10 < ParahSailin> i have no idea how ethereum is actually supposed to work, and i guess thats probably the point
14:10 < kanzure> iirc the goalposts have moved a few times, but http://vbuterin.com/ethereum.html
14:10 < ParahSailin> bilk people with premine schemes that are really complicated
14:11 < kanzure> heh
14:11 < _0bitcount> By the way, the interview is here, in case anybody is interested:  http://www.singularityweblog.com/jeremy-rifkin-on-the-zero-marginal-cost-society/
14:11 < ParahSailin> the bitcoin mechanism on the other hand can be explained in one sentence
14:12 < ParahSailin> and not a faulknerian one
14:12 < kanzure> ParahSailin: pls keep an eye open for additions for my collection, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/fanaticism/
14:13 < ParahSailin> reading zh comments is your job not mine
14:13 < kanzure> it's more like "sustained glancing" than reading
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15:38 < _0bitcount> Are people already using bitcoin for micropayments? For example donating, say 10 cents., to your favorite singer or Free Software project?
15:39 < kanzure> yep
15:39 < ParahSailin> miner gonna waste time putting a 10 cent transaction in a block?
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15:40 < _0bitcount> Because that is one of the things lacking in traditional currencies that I find most irritating. Clearly, the actual system is directed to the benefit of big players.
15:42 < _0bitcount> ParahSailin, is it costly in computing terms?
15:42 < kanzure> i've generated thousands of 0.001 BTC transactions, miners usually pick them up
15:42 < ParahSailin> ah
15:43 < kanzure> https://gist.github.com/kanzure/9ad6a265aac887fa26c1
15:44 < _0bitcount> Awesome! :)
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15:55 < kanzure> (2001) "This document is a an attempt list of all known space transport and space engineering methods. It includes only those methods whose underlying physical principles are understood (i.e. no Star Trek warp drives). It is the product of a number of years of collecting and, occasionally, inventing them." http://web.archive.org/web/20080112180329/http://www.geocities.com/danielravennest/CanonicalList.html
15:58 < superkuh> Missing electrostatic e-sails, but that is reasonable since they came after publication of that.
15:59 < superkuh> It does mention solar wind deflection, but only in terms of magsails which aren't really practical.
16:00 < kanzure> this is from the seed-factory bitcoin person. i also found him on orion's arm, sl4, lesswrong, and some fursite. so he's been lurking.
16:04 < catern> fursite?
16:04 < kanzure> internet's weirder than you want to know
16:05 < catern> but what do furries have to do with those other things
16:05 < catern> good ole weird cluster of points in personspace
16:05 < kanzure> oh, i was just listing things i remembered
16:05 < kanzure> that's the only relationship
16:06 < catern> oh
16:09 < ||0_-_0||> catern furries will be the first ones lining up for transformation once George Church descents that holy mountain and imparts magic unto genetics
16:09 < catern> good point
16:10 < nsh> what if when George Church descends the mountain the furries are trying to impregnate a giant golden cat the old-fashioned way and he destroys his dual seven-inch tablets in fury
16:10 < nsh> ???
16:11 < nsh> i don't think this exigency has been thoroughly-enough examined
16:17 < ||0_-_0||> you're right
16:17 < ||0_-_0||> if we take this to its logical extreme, we can start a Calvinist flavor of Druzism
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16:52 < jrayhawk> hahaha
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17:01 < nsh> /me smiles
17:01  * nsh smiles
17:01 < nsh> like so
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22:33 < genehacker> I knew it ravenest
22:35 < kanzure> hm?
22:36 < genehacker> the seed factory guy
22:38 < genehacker> did not know he was a furry though
22:38 < genehacker> he's a big poster in r/automate
22:39 < kanzure> see http://blog.datapacrat.com/about/
22:40 < genehacker> I'm not sure that I wanted to know that
22:40 < ebowden_> What's r/automate?
22:41 < genehacker> the automation subreddit
22:41 < genehacker> errr, the robots are gonna take our jobs and it will be awesome subreddit
22:43 < genehacker> seriously it will be awesome
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23:24 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
23:38 < ebowden_> Oh, hey.
23:38 < ebowden_> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-7091-0932-8_22
23:38 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/87bb93ae55ce2f04ddbd8a6e92683697.txt
23:39 < ebowden_> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v506/n7487/full/nature12929.html
23:40 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnature12929
23:41 < ebowden_> \:D/
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