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07:10 < chapta> .gc biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by george church and the NRA, banned by the Federal Death Administration
07:10 < yoleaux> 243 (site), 55 (end)
07:10 < chapta> .gc biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware
07:10 < yoleaux> 10,700 (site), 22,800 (end), 129 (api)
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07:54 < ybit3> """
07:54 < ybit3> So I found out Masten Space Systems, a company I interned at a while ago and known for doing this: http://youtu.be/A5b9LnzjGgU
07:54 < ybit3> Is offering to fly code: http://masten.aero/2014/05/project-prometheus/
07:54 < ybit3> They will have a Raspberry Pi attached to some sensors on their spacecraft.
07:54 < ybit3> And you can send them a bit of Python or C code that runs on an embedded system such as RaspPi or Arduino.
07:54 < ybit3> And that interacts with their sensors.
07:54 < ybit3> And they will upload it to the on-board Raspberry Pi, let it run and go fly.
07:54 < ybit3> The project is for the rapid, streamlined development of tools relating to; visual navigation, landing detection, mass estimation and position/attitude estimation.
07:54 < ybit3> So anyone wanting to build their algorithms for guidance and navigation and control for their robots have a chance to do it on a spaceship.
07:54 < ybit3> You can reach them at prometheus@masten.aero with input and questions about the program.
07:54 < ybit3> If you are with an educational institution, you get to fly free.
07:54 < ybit3> So if you know C or Python and have worked with embedded systems such as Raspberry Pi or Arduino, you are set.
07:54 < ybit3> """
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08:36 < cpopell> paperbot http://proceedings.spiedigitallibrary.org/proceeding.aspx?articleid=1312944
08:36 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1117%2F12.915056
08:48 < kanzure> the hell is a triadic https://github.com/Fooidge/PleaseJS
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10:52 < nmz787_i> chris_99: yes the TakeItApart.com DNA synthesizer is the one we recently acquired
10:52 < chris_99> cool
11:02 < chris_99> is there something that explains in simple terms how that type of synthesizer works
11:05 < kanzure> i think the simplest explanation is "argon pushes stuff through tubes, valves route the materials to the correct location"
11:06 < chris_99> hows the double-helix formed though, via chemical reactions?
11:06 < kanzure> phosphoramidite chemistry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligonucleotide_synthesis
11:06 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligonucleotide_synthesis#Synthesis_by_the_phosphoramidite_method
11:07 < chris_99> aha merci
11:07 < kanzure> i also wrote a generic intro here, http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/dna-synthesis.html
11:07 < chris_99> cool, i'll have a read through
11:07 < kanzure> the manual also has a simplified overview of the chemistry, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/abi391/ABI%20391-manual.pdf
11:21 < nmz787_i> chris_99: no double helix, oligo synth is single stranded
11:21 < nmz787_i> chris_99: ev'rything is chemical reactions, unless it's a nuclear reaction :P
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12:39 < chris_99> Was just watching a really interesting thing about bees, and they connected a flower to a speaker and some circuitry, and you could hear a change in frequency as the bee aproached, which remains after it leaves for like 100s
12:40 < cluckj> that's really cool
12:40 < cluckj> plant orgasm caught on tape?
12:41 < chris_99> heh, that's the paper for it http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/66.abstract supposedly then the bees can pick up the magnetic fields and avoid ones others have been too
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13:07 < kanzure> .title
13:07 < yoleaux> Detection and Learning of Floral Electric Fields by Bumblebees
13:07 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/66.abstract
13:07 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1230883
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14:27 < justanotheruser> kanzure: referring to counterparty? (you can't say that in #bitcoin :) )
14:27 < kanzure> nope, nothing counterparty-specific
14:28 < justanotheruser> I see
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14:29 < kanzure> nmz787_i: you don't have to build a custom dna synthesizer just to operate an online dna synthesis service.
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15:21 < kanzure> http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/15/medxts-platform-brings-medical-imaging-in-line-with-todays-cloud-technology/
15:21 < kanzure> and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8038320
15:38 < kanzure> justanotheruser: but, speaking of counterparty, multi-sig doesn't work, right?
15:39 < justanotheruser> kanzure: what? multi-sig works?
15:39 < justanotheruser> I think counterparty moved to op_return from what I read if that's what you're asknig
15:39 < kanzure> it does work? can you show me any evidence.
15:40 < kanzure> not sure if they moved to OP_RETURN after the 80/40 blowup
15:40 < justanotheruser> kanzure: the fact that there hasn't been a hardfork in bitcoin?
15:40 < justanotheruser> are you referring to it no longer being standard?
15:41 < justanotheruser> (not implying it isn't standard, just that I don't know that it still is)
15:41 < kanzure> you are very confusing
15:41 < justanotheruser> kanzure: heh
15:41 < justanotheruser> "multi-sig doesn't work"
15:42 < kanzure> true or false
15:42 < justanotheruser> what exactly do you mean? A block containing a multi-sig transaction isn't invalid.
15:42 < kanzure> counterparty transactions were using multi-sig-related data
15:42 < justanotheruser> OP_CHECKMULTISIG wasn't hardforked out
15:42 < kanzure> that's not what i'm claiming
15:42 < kanzure> or asking about
15:43 < justanotheruser> yes, that is why I was confused
15:43 < justanotheruser> I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but this probably answers it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg7478502#msg7478502
15:43 < kanzure> "Counterparty does not at the moment support multisig transactions" according to the interwebs
15:43 < justanotheruser> phantomphreak post on bitcointalk
15:44 < kanzure> ok that is more recent than my link
15:45 < kanzure> why do you have a random link to page 4053 in a longass thread?
15:45 < justanotheruser> and its certainly a good thing. counterparty was hurting bitcoin scalability.
15:45 < justanotheruser> kanzure: it is linked from elsewhere
15:45 < kanzure> has anybody demonstrated a multisig counterparty transaction on mainnet, testnet, or regtest?
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15:47 < justanotheruser> I don't know
15:48 < justanotheruser> I think the next step for counterparty is to have transaction per block
15:48 < justanotheruser> *one transaction per block
15:49 < kanzure> what's your scheme?
15:49 < justanotheruser> This would make it much cheaper for counterparty users
15:49 < justanotheruser> kanzure: I've been thinking of ways to get everyone to commit to a merkle tree
15:49 < justanotheruser> no one wants to pay obviously
15:49 < kanzure> do you mean, a single user initiates multiple transactions compressed into one transaction, or that any counterparty transaction is aggregated into a single transaction for all users (going through a central party to do the aggregation)?
15:50 < justanotheruser> kanzure: centralization would make it very easy, but I want to avoid that
15:50 < justanotheruser> just a single OP_RETURN <merkle_root> every block
15:50 < kanzure> per user?
15:50 < justanotheruser> for everything
15:51 < kanzure> then you might as well just tweet a hash
15:51 < kanzure> not very convinced of the utility of that
15:51 < justanotheruser> why?
15:51 < justanotheruser> tweeting is centralized
15:52 < justanotheruser> this would make every blockchain app collectively have to pay the cost of storing a single hash (maybe a few thousand people pay 10 cents)
15:52 < justanotheruser> the problem is deciding who has to pay
15:53 < justanotheruser> I have a few ideas, but they all have weaknesses
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16:53 < nmz787_i> kanzure: to make money on it you do
16:55 < kanzure> that's also not true, because it fails to account for dna synthsizer manufacturers making money
16:55 < kanzure> look, it's perfectly alright to want one option for no rational reason, but don't make up wrong reasons :p
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17:40 < kanzure> https://archive.org/search.php?query=EHSM
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18:16 < nmz787_i> kanzure: dna synthesizer manufacturers don't sell DNA
18:16 < nmz787_i> or if they do, they don't sell their devices, only the output stream
18:16 < nmz787_i> (i.e. idt)
18:17 < kanzure> they do sell equipment though, which also makes money
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20:11 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPcJD7RVuY
20:11 < yoleaux> How To Properly Roll Cable
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20:27 < justanotheruser> Hello
20:29 < kanzure> hi
20:35 < justanotheruser> kanzure: have you read pos.pdf (proof of stake)?
20:35 < justanotheruser> I noticed you were in peercoin
20:36 < kanzure> i have read asic-faq.pdf
20:36 < kanzure> and pos.pdf yes
20:36 < kanzure> if you mean https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf
20:36 < justanotheruser> yes
20:37 < kanzure> i'm eager to find out when someone bothers to attack a proof of stake network
20:37 < justanotheruser> I was considering letting people upload their peercoin wallets and paying them for it based on how much stake it used
20:37 < justanotheruser> s/stake/coindays
20:38 < justanotheruser> of course, this would have to be after they get rid of checkpointing
20:39 < justanotheruser> What is the legality of it?
20:39 < justanotheruser> most likely gray area
20:39 < kanzure> i'm no lawyer
20:40 < justanotheruser> I probably could prove that I trivially made a fork that was barely shorter than the mainchain
20:40 < justanotheruser> and that would be sufficient to prove it was attacked
20:40 < justanotheruser> *attackable
20:45 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.plantmethods.com/content/pdf/1746-4811-8-27.pdf
20:45 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go)
20:45 < kanzure> (some gene gun)
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21:50 < nmz787> kanzure: any way you can think to get this up to me? http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1168666
21:50 < nmz787> from san diego
21:51 < kanzure> how big? we could coerce yashgaroth
21:51 < kanzure> yashgaroth: yo
21:51 < yashgaroth> how big
21:51 < kanzure> there are pics
21:52 < nmz787> hmm
21:52 < yashgaroth> oh haha no
21:52 < nmz787> computer desk size
21:52 < kanzure> "Inspection of items is NOT AVAILABLE. No one allowed onsite. "
21:52 < nmz787> 2X
21:52 < kanzure> looks like they will be doing the shipping and packaging
21:53 < nmz787> it says buyer must pickup within 10 days
21:53 < nmz787> but then on the right side gives a UPS phone #
21:53 < kanzure> maybe jojack
21:54 < yashgaroth> he does have a more flexible schedule than me
21:54 < kanzure> you're just not clearly realizing the benefits of being unemployed and underpaid
21:56 < yashgaroth> I dream of being laid off sometimes
21:56 < yashgaroth> mmm 2 months severance and free government money
21:57 < kanzure> haha you expect severance htat's funny
21:57 < kanzure> *that's
21:57 < nmz787> i can't really tell if it's any good
21:57 < yashgaroth> hells yes...well maybe a month's worth
21:57 < yashgaroth> anyway I think the UPS number is for after you buy it, but shipping's gotta be at least a grand
21:59 < nmz787> just found and started watching 'fat guy stuck in internet' on adultswim
21:59 < kanzure> a grand? dna synthesizer was $60 shipping
21:59 < nmz787> yeah
22:00 < nmz787> i could cary the synth
22:00 < nmz787> not this
22:00 < nmz787> nevermind
22:00 < nmz787> i don't want it
22:00 < kanzure> TOO LATE
22:00 < yashgaroth> this is pallet, not to mention the rigors of shipping delicate...oh
22:00 < kanzure> what's the sugo polymer called?
22:00 < kanzure> not http://www.instamorph.com/about but the other thing
22:03 < nmz787> 'does not come with the box'
22:05 < kanzure> aha, sugru
22:05 < kanzure> hrm http://www.libremechanics.com/
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22:14 < kanzure> mutu52891: hi
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22:15 < kanzure> ouch
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22:20 < nmz787> it's just PDMS i think
22:20 < nmz787> err RTV
22:20 < nmz787> must have some other stuff in it to make it stiff
22:20 < nmz787> prob some longer polymers or something
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22:30 < nmz787> kanzure: took apart that spectrometer thing tonight
22:31 < kanzure> go on
22:36 < nmz787> i didn't get to taking apart the actual optics
22:36 < nmz787> but it was pretty cool
22:37 < nmz787> got lots of good pics
22:37 < nmz787> made sure to get most of the ICs on the analog section
22:37 < nmz787> i will start uploading the pics now
22:44 < nmz787> anyone have experience with dichloroacetate?
22:44 < nmz787> I feel like I heard someone in here talking about it recently
22:44 < nmz787> or anyone know if there are bad human side effects?
22:45 < nmz787> or dosing is hard to get right (i.e. oops the pt. died)
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