--- Log opened Tue Jul 22 00:00:11 2014 00:08 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:09 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:10 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:12 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:17 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:37 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:40 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:00 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:02 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d205-250-249-213.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:06 < kanzure> my browserify builds are way too large 01:06 < kanzure> 300 kb when gzipped :| 01:20 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:42 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:12 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@117-199-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:20 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:20 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 02:20 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:43 < archels> .head http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov 02:43 < yoleaux> 200, text/html; charset=UTF-8 02:43 < archels> hm, must be DNS issues 02:53 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: dingo, juul, drazak, juri_, AshleyWaffle, dpk, jrayhawk 02:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jrayhawk, drazak, dingo, AshleyWaffle, dpk, juri_, juul 03:52 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:00 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:16 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:16 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:28 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@178.7.10.169] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:35 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:42 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:49 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@179.26.155.73] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@73.188.109.195] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:26 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)] 06:28 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@178.7.10.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:29 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@73.188.109.195] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:11 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:21 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-58-169-129-68.lns4.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-58-169-129-68.lns4.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@117-199-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:24 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:28 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:33 < ybit> kanzure: you continue to write everything in python, i don't get why :) 08:50 < ybit> is it because of ipython? 08:51 < ybit> is it because python has more libs than some other language? 08:51 < cuba> its a very nice language 08:51 < ybit> it is a decent language 08:52 < ybit> My gf has picked it up quickly 08:53 < cuba> what would you consider a very nice language ybit? 08:53 < ybit> clojure 08:53 < eudoxia> that's not Common Lisp 08:54 < ybit> persistant, sometimes lazy data structures with a consistent api for accessing them 08:55 < ybit> i've been spening more time in ruby land, it has more FP features than Python, and the classes tend to be shorter 08:56 < cuba> fp? 08:56 < ybit> functional programming 08:56 < cuba> ah makes sense 08:56 < cuba> i never touched lisp, only haskell so far 08:56 < ybit> also, this keyboard for the xps15 is terrible 08:56 < ybit> of course i like haskell :) 08:57 < cuba> but i wouldnt say i could write a decent program in it 09:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-58-169-129-68.lns4.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:11 < kanzure> ybit: mostly because i'm trying to keep things simple for the lowest common denominator 09:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:55 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-199-170.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@81.61.209.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 < kanzure> ugh http://thegreenpizza.github.io/2013/05/25/building-minification-safe-angular.js-applications/ 11:20 < kanzure> why is their framework based on introspection anyway 11:20 < kanzure> if the majority of their users are minifying the hell out of everything 11:22 < eudoxia> because programmers like magical implicit behaviour? apparently 11:23 < chris_99> https://www.littleboxchallenge.com/ 11:29 < ybit> re:langs i like elixir slightly more than ruby 11:30 < ybit> kanzure: that makes sense 11:30 < ybit> except that someone might argue you may be introducing technical debt that way 11:30 < kanzure> ybit, besides uglification, minification, closure, and some wacky cdn network, what are the other things i'm supposed to do 11:30 < kanzure> simple, maintainable source code that is extremely easy to read is not technical debt :) 11:33 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:37 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@65-162-232.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:00 < ybit> hm, that could make senese 12:01 < ybit> s/senese/sense 12:01 < ybit> prelude and lodash have spoiled me 12:08 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@179.26.155.73] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:10 < kanzure> cool. 75% reduction in size. 12:11 < ybit> hm? 12:11 < kanzure> realized i wasn't minifying 12:11 < kanzure> now it is less awful 12:11 < kanzure> i had a 1 MB bundle.js :\ 12:44 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@81.61.209.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56 -!- cpopell [26683be2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.104.59.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 < cpopell> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2598193 12:57 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F2598153.2598193 12:57 < kanzure> ftp://libgen.org/code/ 12:58 < kanzure> very version control 13:10 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- chapta [~chatzilla@dslb-178-007-010-169.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14 < archels> sometimes I dream of operating a libgen mirror 13:15 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:35 < superkuh> So say we all. 13:36 -!- trotsky is now known as ruthie_ 13:37 < kanzure> hmm, so at minimum, it wouldn't be too bad to run a private mirror on ec2 13:39 < kanzure> oh. maybe it is. $300/mo to store 10 TB on s3. is that worth it? 13:40 < kanzure> at $10/mo it would be definitely yes 13:40 -!- ruthie_ [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: DANG] 13:44 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 < jrayhawk> or you can buy a pile of drives and send them to me 14:05 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d205-250-248-110.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:08 -!- faecface is now known as faceface 14:32 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:37 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has quit [Changing host] 14:37 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:38 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:46 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:47 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- moklar [~Mookaborb@c-24-21-241-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:50 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:50 -!- moktsar [~Mookaborb@c-24-21-241-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:52 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:08 < kanzure> https://github.com/kragen/stl3dpy 15:12 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: DANG] 15:34 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-83-144-191.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-211-35-198.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- hehelleshin is now known as helleshin 16:10 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:21 < bbrittain> hey, kanzure: can paperbot go back into #xiph? he used to be there 16:22 < kanzure> yep there he goes 16:22 < kanzure> bbrittain: where did you guys find gmaxwell 16:23 < bbrittain> kanzure: well... he is sitting right next to mee.... elaborate? 16:23 < bbrittain> also, thank you! 16:24 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24 < kanzure> well maybe if you told me the place then there might be more of him 16:26 < bbrittain> kanzure: wait. you can clone gmaxwell? please do. 16:27 < kanzure> no promises 16:27 < bbrittain> he works with me at Mozilla. 16:37 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:38 < kanzure> oh is that how xiph abducted him 16:42 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@65-162-232.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42 < kanzure> github tree view https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/octotree/bkhaagjahfmjljalopjnoealnfndnagc/ 16:45 < bbrittain> kanzure: nah, he has been involved with xiph since... forever. 16:45 < bbrittain> kanzure: mozilla just pays him to work on xiph stuff :P 16:46 < bbrittain> aka Daala 16:58 -!- moktsar [~Mookaborb@c-24-21-241-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- marciogm [~marciogm@179.126.75.112] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 -!- moklar [~Mookaborb@c-24-21-241-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:17 < kanzure> ah, https://github.com/buunguyen/octotree 17:19 < kanzure> hm https://api.github.com/rate_limit 17:30 -!- marciogm [~marciogm@179.126.75.112] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-jigxbjujjokygxat] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 < nmz787_i> http://www.vsg3d.com/open-inventor/sdk 17:31 < nmz787_i> i think i read it is lgpl 17:31 < nmz787_i> (though I don't really know what that means ) 17:39 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:43 -!- petrushk [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 < kanzure> plenv would have been nice back when i cared about perl 17:48 < kanzure> https://github.com/tokuhirom/plenv 17:52 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:00 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-jigxbjujjokygxat] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:04 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:11 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6ca6:4fb1::6ca6:4fb1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:34 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6ca6:4fb1::6ca6:4fb1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:03 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:03 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@quayio/your-docker-image-ids-are-secrets-and-its-time-you-treated-them-that-way-f55e9f14c1a4 19:21 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:21 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has quit [Changing host] 19:21 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:25 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:25 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:31 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:55 < JayDugger> Something worth reading on medium? 20:04 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@pool-96-245-106-29.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 < kanzure> it's sort of like all the hipster throwback techies writing their blog posts on tumblr, i think 20:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-58-169-129-68.lns4.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:56 < kanzure> ethereum exodus address has received 1700 BTC today https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 20:58 < kanzure> narf https://github.com/ethereum/pyethsaletool 21:03 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 < kanzure> .wik aXXo 21:05 < yoleaux> "aXXo is the Internet alias of an individual who became popular for releasing and standardizing commercial DVD movies on the Internet as free downloads. 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