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Tomography Generates 3-D Reconstructions of the Yeast, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, at 60-nm Resolution 09:50 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/60b5178452ba0477b47b15131db0a5c.txt 09:50 < chris_99> heh cool 10:02 < nmz787_i> chris_99: well of course it will 10:02 < nmz787_i> they 10:02 < nmz787_i> whether it's an interesting effect... that's an opinion 10:02 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:c4c5:e158:dc31:6bfa] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 10:02 < chris_99> so it'd lead to mutation 10:34 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-160-45.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-160-45.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-160-45.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:53 -!- Guest37940 is now known as maaku 10:58 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:08 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@apache2-quack.micaiah.dreamhost.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:13 < nmz787_i> chris_99: not necessarily 11:14 < nmz787_i> I mean, probably, but there might be other stuff that gets in the way and absorbs the rays 11:14 < nmz787_i> certain rasys might penetrate more or less deep into the cell 11:14 < nmz787_i> so what wavelength/freq/keV probably matters 11:20 < chris_99> mmm 11:23 < nmz787_i> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5224 11:23 < nmz787_i> .title 11:23 < yoleaux> Guyver: The Bioboosted Armor (TV) 11:41 -!- realzies [~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:43 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.73] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:01 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-umoogtrtwbtgyiuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- Lemminkainen [uid34064@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwpbxhjvqulcsefu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:06 < nmz787_i> http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/6/245/245ra94 12:06 < nmz787_i> .title 12:06 < yoleaux> Biological pacemaker created by minimally invasive somatic reprogramming in pigs with complete heart block 12:07 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.3008681 12:18 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d50-92-48-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-umoogtrtwbtgyiuh] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24 -!- GabrielRuizLA is now known as kaffir 12:24 -!- kaffir is now known as kaafir 12:31 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-kvfjdrzaxyubibpe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@105.230.28.109] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:38 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID2360827_code475810.pdf?abstractid=2284964&mirid=1 12:38 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c20874df331d47a35a40b24d06e83dbd.txt 12:39 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID2360827_code475810.pdf?abstractid=2284964&mirid=2 12:39 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ac3867d871c6406f78015862252e1998.txt 12:40 < nmz787_i> poppingtonic: so when you click 'download this paper' do you see some buttons that flash then disappear? 12:40 < nmz787_i> i was able to click the 'CHICAGO BOOTH' link during that flash and the pdf downloaded 12:41 < poppingtonic> hmmm... 12:41 < poppingtonic> nmz787_i: no, the download completes, then I get an error when opening the pdf: 'file type not supported: html' 12:42 < poppingtonic> i use evince 12:43 -!- poppingt` [~poppingto@105.230.28.109] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- poppingtonic is now known as Guest70882 12:44 -!- poppingt` is now known as poppingtonic` 12:44 -!- poppingtonic` is now known as poppingtonic 12:44 < nmz787_i> poppingtonic`: is the file extension .pdf? 12:44 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ng.3039.html 12:44 -!- Guest70882 [~poppingto@105.230.28.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fng.3039 12:45 < poppingtonic> yes. 12:45 < poppingtonic> random netsplit woo 12:45 < nmz787_i> hmm, i'm at work and don't have a good way to transmit this pdf 12:45 < nmz787_i> if you can wait ~6 hours i'll get it to you 12:46 < Lemminkainen> no netcat? 12:46 < nmz787_i> i /could/ email it, but i'd rather not 12:46 < nmz787_i> i think that is against policy :O 12:46 < nmz787_i> (netcat) 12:49 < poppingtonic> nmz787_i: that's very nice of you :) i can wait. 12:50 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@105.230.28.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:50 -!- nmz787_i1 [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-ebgcezfqkpvbtdtx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@105.230.28.109] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-kvfjdrzaxyubibpe] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56 < poppingtonic> nmz787_i1: file transfers using nc. TIL I did not know about such neat hacks. 13:03 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:11 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@apache2-quack.micaiah.dreamhost.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:42 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:53 -!- ThugWaffle [~Thug@c-50-178-14-183.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:59 < ParahSailin> http://cheapcaptcha.com/pricing 14:01 < kanzure> huh, a bit cheaper than http://deathbycaptcha.com/user/order 14:07 < kanzure> bitcoin makes running that type of service much easier 14:07 < kanzure> payouts can also be in bitcoin 14:11 < dingo> https://github.com/saitoha/libsixel 14:11 < dingo> oops 14:11 < dingo> wrong channel, but hey, enjoy anyway hehe 14:12 < kanzure> up to no good, i see 14:15 < dingo> hehe 14:15 < dingo> friend of mine is writing a telnet+ssh terminal emulator 14:15 < dingo> for what purpose, i don't know, i think the ones i have are fine 14:16 < dingo> but his is meant to do CP437 and amiga font pages well, ala http://bbs.ninja/ something another friend of mine wrote recently (in python) 14:16 < dingo> he uses OpenGL and tiled textures instead of truetype fonts 14:16 < dingo> (in the terminal emulator, anyway) 14:16 < dingo> i'm encouraging him to have support for sixel 14:18 < kanzure> encouraging him with your encouragement drill? http://www.assignmentx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/FUTURAMA-Season-7-The-Six-Million-Dollar-Mon-1.jpg 14:18 < dingo> hehe 14:25 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- nmz787_i1 [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-ebgcezfqkpvbtdtx] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:29 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-165-77.lns3.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-165-77.lns3.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 -!- strophariad [~str@unaffiliated/strophariad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 < strophariad> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ0Sys0ySkE :-) 15:34 < kanzure> .title 15:34 < yoleaux> America, Now - Topic: Health 15:34 < kanzure> uh 15:35 < strophariad> clicking would have revealed that, and the content, with fewer keystrokes :-p 15:35 < kanzure> i don't click links, i type them 15:35 < kanzure> and the title makes it sound really boring, what's the content 15:36 < strophariad> an animated music video on increasing longevity 15:36 < kanzure> you suck at titling your videos 15:36 < strophariad> it's not mine, but thanks for playing :-) 15:36 < strophariad> part of a satirical series of them 15:37 < strophariad> each with its own brief topic 15:38 < dingo> for the longest time the only youtube-capable machine i had was a PS3 15:38 < dingo> so i'd have to plug a damn keyboard into it and use that piece of shit browser it had 15:38 < kanzure> webkit? :p 15:38 < strophariad> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpeDAGDcLaM&list=PLD8217FD2EE6CEB23 15:38 < dingo> eventually i bought a MAC again 15:38 < kanzure> i guess webkit qualifies as shit, sure 15:47 -!- strophariad [~str@unaffiliated/strophariad] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:50 -!- strophariad [~str@unaffiliated/strophariad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 < strophariad> one wonders, rhetorically, why the joyless wish to extend their lives 15:51 < strophariad> :-) 15:51 -!- strophariad [~str@unaffiliated/strophariad] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:53 < kanzure> uh.. 15:54 < kanzure> is that dude just a moron 16:07 < nmz787_i> hahahah 16:24 < cluckj> trolololol 16:27 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@apache2-quack.micaiah.dreamhost.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:46 < kanzure> any haproxy wizards in here 16:50 < nmz787_i> I doubt you're joking, but made me think about a proxy to redirect 'ha' 16:50 < nmz787_i> like that Monty Python where you pay to argue 16:52 < kanzure> there was never a sketch about that 16:52 < nmz787_i> sure there was 16:52 < kanzure> that'll be 2 BTC 16:52 < nmz787_i> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdoGVgj1MtY 16:52 < nmz787_i> .title 16:52 < yoleaux> Argument Clinic From Monty Python's Flying Circus 16:53 < kanzure> you gotta pay up if you want me to keep arguing 16:55 < dingo> hehe 16:55 < jrayhawk> i think metafilter has a system like that 16:55 < kanzure> i'm sure they have a load balancer 16:59 < jrayhawk> someone should make a disqus equivalent that charges bitcoin 17:00 < kanzure> that intrusive javascript that infects blogs, or the chinese bbs thing? 17:00 < kanzure> "bbs" 17:00 < kanzure> so as to not offend dingo 17:00 < dingo> :) 17:00 < jrayhawk> intrusive javascript thing 17:01 < kanzure> dingo: i'm surprised you haven't been on at least one murderous chinese rampage about that 17:01 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25 -!- rigel_ [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:25 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:26 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:26 -!- rigel_ [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:40 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has quit [Changing host] 17:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 17:56 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 18:02 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:04 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 18:08 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:18 < dpk> paperbot: http://ijl.oxfordjournals.org/content/10/3/181 18:18 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Fijl%2F10.3.181 18:20 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:29 < nmz787_i> isn't this what fenn_ was talking about not existing at some point, or not widely being a popular method of rendering? http://docs.enthought.com/mayavi/mayavi/auto/example_chemistry.html#example-chemistry 18:30 < kanzure> something about electrostatic potential shells 18:31 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:38 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:43 < nmz787_i> this sounds cool https://pypi.python.org/pypi/SeedWaterSegmenter/0.5.8.0 18:43 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cyto.a.22034/abstract 18:43 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/774a78c2eb0bc694956b0dcf32e507b2.txt 18:46 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01 < streety> looks interesting nmz787_i I might give it a try 19:02 < nmz787_i> streety: did you get the paper? 19:03 < streety> just downloaded but haven't looked at it yet 19:09 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Enabling_user-guided_segmentation_and_tracking_of_surface-labeled_cells_in_time-lapse_image_sets_of_living_tissues.pdf 19:16 < nmz787> poppingtonic: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/On_the_Difference_between_Binary_Prediction_and_True_Exposure_With_Implications_For_Forecasting_Tournaments_and_Decision_Making_Research.pdf 19:16 < nmz787> poppingtonic: I didn't have to login to anything from home though 19:16 < nmz787> so it wasn't work's connection 19:17 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:18 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Most_genetic_risk_for_autism_resides_with_common_variation.pdf 19:26 < kanzure> "moxie 3 hours ago | link 19:26 < kanzure> At Open Whisper Systems, we wrote a small open source gradle plugin called "gradle-witness" for this reason. Not just because dependencies could be transported over an insecure channel, but also because dependencies could be compromised if the gradle/maven repository were compromised: https://github.com/whispersystems/gradle-witness It allows you to "pin" dependencies by specifying the sha256sum of the jar you're expecting." 19:31 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:33 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:46 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:52 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- Coldblackice is now known as Coldblackice_zz 20:16 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:30 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has 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a weekend 21:13 < dingo> if those blackphone (silent circle, which i use) guys would write their own baseband and open source their shit i'd buy one 21:13 < dingo> but i just don't trust these stupid devices anyway, not since the summer before that IQ or whatever it was called was revealed 21:13 < kanzure> at this point i think the bottleneck is everyone's waiting on an open source system on a chip baseband transceiver thing 21:14 < cluckj> moxie soda is disgusting, but an acquired taste 21:14 < dingo> thats what i hear, its disgusting, which makes it all the more interesting to me hehe 21:15 < kanzure> good name sake i guess 21:15 < kanzure> walk into a bar and.. something. 21:16 < dingo> moxie was like a homeless ship sailor for a while 21:16 < dingo> he got a crappy sea-faring boat for next to nothing, repaired it, and lived like a pirate haha 21:16 < dingo> makes for plenty of time to look into https 21:18 < kanzure> well from the sounds of it openssl was swiss cheese 21:19 < dingo> this book, http://bestnetworkingbook.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-art-of-software-security-assessment.html provides a methodology for identify vulnerabilties in code 21:19 < dingo> basically hand tracing all the function calls and parameters and switches and so on 21:20 < dingo> it would take you years to audit ssl 21:20 < kanzure> i think people just use valgrind or something 21:20 < dingo> such a complex pile, i think the openbsd guys are making some good headway in making it maleable 21:23 < kanzure> i was hearing a lot of twerping about a lack of unit tests for tls 21:23 < kanzure> "we're too important for testing!" 21:23 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@apache2-quack.micaiah.dreamhost.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:13 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-226-222-85.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 -!- drewbot 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