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top4o [~chatzilla@93.152.162.95] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:44 < kanzure> well that's not right 09:49 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@mailhost.polyglotte.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:49 -!- FF_HaSp [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:24b4:7f1d:fcd3:36e4] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 09:55 < kanzure> "Coat variation in the domestic dog is governed by variants in three genes" http://www.bio.davidson.edu/COURSES/genomics/2011/Bio309_papers/Dog_coats.pdf 09:59 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59 -!- radivis [~quassel@dslb-188-104-231-139.188.104.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has quit [Changing host] 09:59 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:01 < kanzure> ParahSailin: special dna prep required before sending pig/doggy/bunny dna for whole genome sequencing? 10:02 < ParahSailin> you can send gdna on ice to any sequencing core 10:02 < kanzure> do i have to tell them the species? 10:02 < ParahSailin> kanzure: in that paper, do they give rs#s? 10:03 < ParahSailin> i find biologists are super-lazy about reporting rs#s in papers 10:03 < ParahSailin> kanzure: you dont particularly need to tell them what the gdna is 10:03 < kanzure> ehhh no they do not 10:03 < kanzure> yeah, i agree with that lazyness assessment 10:03 < ParahSailin> you can tell them fragment size you want, if you want paired end data 10:04 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:04 -!- nsh- [~xeb@94.118.231.223] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 < ParahSailin> last week, i was trying to figure out what the rs#s corresponding to the different beta casein variants are 10:05 < ParahSailin> nobody seems to have a fucking clue 10:05 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05 < kanzure> ugh 10:06 < ParahSailin> granted, they couldnt even bother to sequence an animal with a y chromosome for the umd 3.1 draft genome 10:06 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@mailhost.polyglotte.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 < ParahSailin> "oh shit fuck, we sequenced a cow instead of a bull" 10:06 < kanzure> all the pedigree bullshit in the animal breeding industries is really annoying 10:06 < kanzure> even a tiny bit of dna magic would fix a lot of their problems 10:07 < ParahSailin> "i guess theres nothing cool on the y chromosome anyway, lets just plough ahead" 10:08 < kanzure> sheena: poke. see words above. 10:08 < ParahSailin> if you can get a dog ear tag, im sure the biologists where i work would love to have dna quality better than hair follicles 10:09 < ParahSailin> or maybe snip a bit off the end of the tail 10:09 < sheena> ParahSailin: blood isnt enough? 10:10 < ParahSailin> dried bloodspot is definitely better than hair follicle 10:10 < ParahSailin> hm, actually i think they used cheek swabs 10:10 < sheena> there are dog breeding things that are tracking/requiring dna sequencing on breeding dogs now, but im not sure the're using it for anything more than proof of ancestry 10:10 < sheena> cheek swabs are typical in dog dna stuff, but a tubeo f blood is very easy to get from most dogs 10:11 < ParahSailin> yeah nobody has a $99 microarray for 900001 dog snps 10:11 < sheena> ParahSailin: is that for me? i do not understand your words 10:11 < ParahSailin> there isnt 23andme for dog 10:12 < kanzure> in that sentence you can parse snps as "traits" more or less 10:12 < ParahSailin> tube of blood should be better than cheek swab 10:12 < sheena> i can get you tubes of blood of dogs any time 10:13 < sheena> there is the "guess your dog's breed based on its dna" for dogs 10:13 < sheena> its about 100-200 bucks 10:13 < sheena> some are 50 10:14 < ParahSailin> yeah one of my coworkers did that for his dogs 10:15 < ParahSailin> oh, yeah these guys http://www.neogen.com/Agrigenomics/EquineCanine.html 10:15 -!- nsh- [~xeb@94.118.231.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:15 < ParahSailin> if you're serious, do that beadchip 10:16 < kanzure> this started with population genetic diversity questions 10:16 < ParahSailin> its probably < 500 10:16 < sheena> ParahSailin: beadchip will give what information that might be useful? 10:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 < ParahSailin> you get 170k snps, so thats pretty good 10:19 < sheena> do you know any pedigree software for tracking breeding? Pedigreedatabase.com is for dogs, something like that ? 10:19 < gradstudentbot> Holy crap, I need to add that to my slide collection. 10:19 * sheena is lost 10:20 < ParahSailin> i dont know of public databases for animal microarrays 10:20 < kanzure> is that dog-specific snps or what 10:20 < sheena> http://www.kintraks.com/ 10:20 < sheena> maybe that? 10:20 < ParahSailin> kanzure: obviously 10:20 < sheena> just to track parentage 10:20 < ParahSailin> tracking your own animals? 10:21 < sheena> right 10:21 < sheena> my mom's rabbits 10:21 < sheena> and her friends... they trade between 4 different "populations" to increase diversity 10:21 < sheena> so would be nice to have everyone be able to contribute? 10:21 < ParahSailin> you are gonna spend 200/rabbit for a beadchip? 10:21 < sheena> no? 10:21 < ParahSailin> those are like $5 animals 10:22 < sheena> i think kanzure is talking about something else 10:22 < sheena> i just want FOSS software to track my mom's bunny population parentage 10:22 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:22 < sheena> ideally it will accept a photo of each animal in the pedigree, calculate COIs, and be accessible to several people or have a sync feature of some sort 10:22 < sheena> kanzure is talking about breeding dogs for better.. something? using DNA? 10:22 < ParahSailin> coi? 10:23 < ParahSailin> you dont really need dna for that, unless you dont know who the dad is 10:27 < sheena> ParahSailin: correct. dna is not relevant to my question re sotware 10:27 < sheena> kintraks looks good tho 10:27 < ParahSailin> lol just have kanzure make you something 10:28 < sheena> lol 10:28 < sheena> ask him how that's worked out in the past ;) 10:29 < kanzure> pretty well? 10:29 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@mailhost.polyglotte.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 < gradstudentbot> Wasn't there a paper about that? 10:33 < sheena> minusthe frustration and anger, sure ;) 10:33 < kanzure> yeah but that's like my default state though 10:37 < heath> win 2 10:37 < heath> whee, irssi 10:43 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@mailhost.polyglotte.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:51 < delinquentme> kanzure, what are some of the more complex / interesting microfluidic devices you've seen? 10:51 < delinquentme> the synthesizer was definitely one 10:52 < kanzure> i think the sequencers were more complex 10:54 < kanzure> gene_hacker would have some good answers 10:56 < ParahSailin> unafold is quite a rathole 11:02 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 < delinquentme> so I had a chat w andrew hessel and he seems to think that an arbitrary pump / valve / resviour box would be interesting for microfluidics 11:24 < delinquentme> ParahSailin, you're running this package for research purposes? 11:28 < ParahSailin> sheena: you should domesticate the new world cottontails 11:28 < kyknos> paperbot, http://www.researchgate.net/publication/9319978_STRUCTURE_OF_A_RIBONUCLEIC_ACID 11:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/db1d7884f09daa5b8ed883f8efc55174.txt 11:30 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@mailhost.polyglotte.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 < kyknos> paperbot, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/147/3664/1462.abstract 11:34 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.147.3664.1462 11:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.240.136.12] has quit [Changing host] 11:37 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- 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http://informahealthcare.com/doi/pdf/10.1586/ern.11.1 12:03 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e58cc6a89d5c839967353f9579771d22.txt 12:05 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21651332 12:05 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1586%2Fern.11.1 12:05 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:12 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ is now known as kuldeepdhaka 12:19 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 < kyknos> paperbot, http://www.nature.com/nature-newbio/journal/v236/n68/abs/newbio236198a0.html 12:19 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2F10.1038%2Fnewbio236198a0 12:19 < kyknos> paperbot, broken link :( 12:21 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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028390808002256 12:32 < ebowden> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nature-newbio/journal/v236/n68/abs/newbio236198a0.html 12:32 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2F10.1038%2Fnewbio236198a0 12:33 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e0384ac6a7fa35f9c0fae6d99ef44bc0.txt 12:35 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/Y09-028 12:35 < gradstudentbot> Whatever, I'm really dating school anyway. 12:36 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d06eff404dd0fb94f6aa16018b4ceba6.txt 12:37 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.3858/emm.2012.44.6.042 12:37 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/56427d01a42b59232f79f839d440e587.txt 12:41 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299908003725 12:41 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1d51967ff2927f45400fd0f2c055ebd1.txt 12:46 < justanotheruser> paging nsh 12:47 < kanzure> that's not how you do it 12:47 < justanotheruser> it isn't? 12:47 < kanzure> nsh: channel 4 is mispronouncing your name 12:47 < justanotheruser> wat 12:48 < justanotheruser> nesh? 12:48 < justanotheruser> as is gunesh 12:48 < justanotheruser> *in 12:49 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.26.236] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93.152.162.95] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]] 13:44 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:58 < kyknos> paperbot, 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[Remote host closed the connection] 15:49 < delinquentme> what would you guys use to fab something like this??? 15:50 < delinquentme> laser cutter? 15:50 < gradstudentbot> My study reveals that people are awesome at memorizing insecure passwords. 15:50 < kanzure> photolithography 15:51 < kanzure> projector pointed at a stamp 15:51 < kanzure> some su-8, some microwave-based plasma bonding thing 15:51 < kanzure> maybe a little pdms somewhere in there 15:51 < kanzure> uh.. you know. stuff. 15:55 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:04 < kanzure> also a spin coater 16:38 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@8.36.227.149] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:05 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has 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kanzure> on a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you hate yourself now 17:49 < ParahSailin> 9! 17:49 < ParahSailin> (factorial) 17:51 < kanzure> i haven't had much luck outsourcing refactoring work like that 17:54 < ParahSailin> hells yeah i got wine in the fridge 17:56 < ParahSailin> so how do you go back and remove curse words from commit messages 17:58 < kanzure> git filter-branch 17:59 < kanzure> --commit-filter 17:59 < kanzure> oops i mean --msg-filter 18:01 < kanzure> git filter-branch --msg-filter 'sed "s/fuck/turd eater/g"' -- --all 18:14 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@8.36.227.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.26.236] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-50-183-58-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:36 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:57 < delinquentme> kanzure, is phtolithography restricted to multi-million dollar machines? 20:00 < kanzure> no 20:01 < kanzure> you just shine some light at some shit and it photocures, that's not even $1000 20:06 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:12 < dingo> ehe im doing git filter-branch now 20:12 < dingo> merging some repos 20:13 < kanzure> you can merge repos by git fetch and git merge if you're okay with merging in the entire history of the other repo 20:14 < dingo> i gotta move the project folder contents to a sub-folder 20:14 < dingo> using git filter-branch, after that, then yup, i just merge 20:16 < delinquentme> is this using a premade machine or something you're fabbing? 20:16 < kanzure> you point a projector at some liquid 20:18 < kanzure> you can also use a camera and 35mm film but then the setup is a little more complicated 20:18 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/Fabrication%20of%20metallic%20microstructures%20using%20exposed,%20developed%20silver%20halide-based%20photographic%20film%20-%20Deng%20-%20Whitesides.pdf 20:18 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/Prototyping%20of%20masks,%20masters,%20and%20stamps%20or%20molds%20for%20soft%20lithography%20using%20an%20office%20printer%20and%20photographic%20reduction%20-%20Deng.pdf 20:19 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/Photomasks%20fabrication%20based%20on%20optical%20reduction%20for%20microfluidic%20applications.pdf 20:19 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:19 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/Using%20patterns%20in%20microfiche%20as%20photomasks%20for%2010-micron-scale%20microfabrication%20-%20Deng%20-%20Whitesides.pdf 20:19 < kanzure> etc 20:22 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjaegsesmrxrzbwy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:25 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuffeluf@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:37 < delinquentme> say you're getting VC and you don't want to build one of these. 20:37 < delinquentme> also im curious about things like this: 20:38 < delinquentme> http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/8/2514/F1.large.jpg 20:38 < delinquentme> how are the reactions restricted to binding a single nucleotide?? 20:39 < kanzure> even if you're getting venture capital money you would still want to do it in house because the prototype turn-around time is way too long to work out the bugs 20:40 < delinquentme> so this is why you guys are interested in it... because there are no cheap fast solutions for good iteration 20:41 < delinquentme> save for maybe having access at some academic lab 20:41 < kanzure> there was this stanford lab that was offering $400 per mold (per design) 20:41 < kanzure> but they have shut down or stopped accepting non-campus money 20:41 -!- Guest16810 [~quassel@50-0-37-37.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:45 < kanzure> i hope you got a good deal on the funding... you using "the vault"? 20:47 < delinquentme> thiel? 20:47 < delinquentme> nah no funding 20:48 < kanzure> "the vault" is not a person. it's a reference to "the vault" during seed rounds. 20:49 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-37-37.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- maaku is now known as Guest54510 20:55 < delinquentme> no idea what this is 21:00 < kanzure> if you don't actually have a deal in progress then it doesn't really matter 21:05 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.26.236] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 -!- ebowden 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googling is lacking 21:31 < kanzure> do they know what the snps correlate with 21:32 < nmz787> lmgtfy 21:33 < nmz787> lotsa hits for: dna dog pedigree snps 21:33 < kanzure> that's not what i mean 21:33 < kanzure> snps aren't just pedigree 21:33 < nmz787> so 21:33 < nmz787> its keyword searching 21:33 < kanzure> snps can determine a bunch of the phenotype of a dog or anything else for that matter 21:33 < kanzure> and i'm curious if anyone has done the studies to figure it out 21:33 < kanzure> especially behavior snps that would be interesting 21:33 < kanzure> like bite inhibition 21:35 < nmz787> Genetic background of aggressive behaviour in dogs - Acta ... 21:35 < nmz787> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=4PbmU7WbB8mLyAS0yoCoAg&url=http://actavet.vfu.cz/pdf/201382040441.pdf&cd=3&ved=0CCoQFjAC&usg=AFQjCNEQTMesIbOWe8EoCmXkW7zejKGlMQ&sig2=CXNCUjooJ5Ry7tdod2fNhg 21:36 < nmz787> sry on phone which doesnt have instakled google crap stripping 21:36 < nmz787> search: dna dog snps aggression 21:37 < kanzure> why are you saying these things to me 21:37 < nmz787> im just sayon to irc 21:37 < nmz787> idk who was asking 21:38 < kanzure> my question wasn't about aggression, it was about the state of the collected data about doggy snps and their phenotypes 21:38 < dingo> i will relay your chats to the internet 21:38 < nmz787> you said bite 21:38 < nmz787> which is pretty close to aggression 21:38 < kanzure> i gave an example 21:38 < kanzure> is that bad? 21:38 < nmz787> no 21:39 < nmz787> you just need to search that stuff to get the answers 21:39 < kanzure> i am not going to search every conceivable phenotype, wtf 21:39 < nmz787> obv no one has mapped all dog snps to phenotype 21:39 < nmz787> and made a cyclopedia 21:39 < kanzure> well i don't care about *all* necessarily 21:39 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:39 < kanzure> just those 170k 21:40 < nmz787> went to a biohacking village planning meeting here today 21:41 < nmz787> mlp wasnt there, butvsaw her last two nights 21:41 < nmz787> hung out with forrest 21:41 < kanzure> which forrest? the reprap one or the cool one 21:41 < nmz787> and koeng 21:41 < nmz787> flanagan 21:42 < nmz787> i guess he was the cool one 21:42 < kanzure> ok the cool one 21:42 < nmz787> from hou 21:43 < nmz787> seems like the village could become reality next year 21:43 < nmz787> good amount of interest 21:45 < kanzure> what else? 21:45 < kanzure> catch any malware? 21:45 < nmz787> not that i can tell 21:45 < nmz787> i am on my phone now 21:46 < nmz787> havent been on wifi at all, someone supposedly has a femtocell tho 21:46 < nmz787> i heard gmail gapps had its certs embedded tho 21:46 < nmz787> and that ssh woukd alert of key change 21:46 < nmz787> aka he normal mitm warning 21:47 < nmz787> forrest said his phone was 21:47 < kanzure> yes but the really nasty stuff is "plug in my phone to get charged, have my nuclear launch codes stolen by the outlet" 21:47 < nmz787> haf some weord shit on it 21:47 < nmz787> hah 21:47 < nmz787> nah 21:47 < nmz787> not doing anything like that 21:48 < nmz787> one talk by a colleague was on using RF to blow up GGCIs 21:48 < nmz787> GFCIs 21:48 < kanzure> nice to know maradydd isn't dead 21:50 < nmz787> went to a party in two-story hotel suite last night 21:50 < nmz787> idk waht 21:50 < nmz787> to do tonight 21:51 < kanzure> go back and claim you lost your something 21:54 < gradstudentbot> Where's my pellets? 22:03 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08 < nmz787> ugh this chromebook doesnt want to see my phone's files 22:08 < nmz787> ugh 22:08 < nmz787> even with droiddrive 22:08 < nmz787> i can see sr0 in dmesg 22:08 < nmz787> but cant mount it, says no medium found 22:09 < nmz787> and tho theyre both google products it cant do MTP 22:09 < nmz787> so f-ing dumb 22:10 < kanzure> airdroid will show you the files over http 22:12 < nmz787> is that wifi hotspot? 22:12 < nmz787> cuz bluetooth on this phone/chromebook doesnt like to fileshare 22:39 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:41 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:00 -!- gully_foyle_ja [~theghosto@pool-71-116-68-251.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:05 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-204-222-14.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-107-21-140-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 -!- petrushki [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 --- Log closed Sun Aug 10 00:00:30 2014