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thinking about kanzure 08:08 < kanzure> man i don't know 08:09 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 < nmz787_i> too early to think too much 08:20 < kanzure> nah 08:32 < heath> kanzure: https://github.com/wapiflapi/binglide 08:35 < heath> https://sites.google.com/site/xxcantorxdustxx/ 08:39 < nmz787_i> so i got some files from teh FIB yesterday 08:39 < nmz787_i> man the computer it runs on is 166 MHz w/ win NT 08:39 < nmz787_i> the file is a screenshot and the pattern assoc with it, the pattern being X, Y, dwell 08:40 < nmz787_i> i opened it in hex editor and it looks relatively straight forward, but it's not ascii 08:40 < chris_99> how do FIB machines image stuff? 08:40 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:40 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 08:40 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:40 < nmz787_i> 4000x4000 pixels addressable, only 1000,000 dwell-able for any pattern 08:40 < chris_99> like do they use electrons or something for that 08:40 < nmz787_i> it's basically a CRT 08:41 < nmz787_i> oh, the ions induced electrons to knock-off the material 08:41 < nmz787_i> then they have an SEM electron camera 08:41 < nmz787_i> SEM-type 08:41 < chris_99> yeah i just meant for imaging rather than knocking off stuff 08:41 < nmz787_i> i'mma try to convert the pattern file back to a binary bitmap 08:41 < chris_99> gotcha 08:42 < nmz787_i> ya with fib you always knock off no matter what 08:42 < chris_99> so you've got a SEM image from it? 08:42 < nmz787_i> that's why these days they make combo instruments 08:42 < nmz787_i> with SEM and FIB guns in one chamber 08:42 < chris_99> ah 08:43 < nmz787_i> man the FIB source was SOOOO tiny, just a lil loop of wire like a spring with a needle tip stickout off the end 08:43 < nmz787_i> and the inside of the spring gets filled with gallium, which when heated doesn't drip out, but wets the needle tip 08:43 < nmz787_i> yeah image looks like SEM 08:43 < nmz787_i> g2g 08:43 < nmz787_i> bbl 08:43 < chris_99> ah 08:44 < chris_99> toodles 08:53 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-179-243-220.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 < nmz787_i> so I was thinking the pattern file back to bitmap could be a JS web app 08:59 < nmz787_i> i wonder if there are some viz libs out there that are easy to make 3D rotatable plots 08:59 < nmz787_i> since the dwell could be considered a Z direction 09:00 < chris_99> mm, don't browsers all do 3D now 09:00 < kanzure> yo uare wondering if 3d plots are a thing? what the fuck 09:01 < kanzure> *you 09:02 < heath> chris_99: http://caniuse.com/#feat=webgl 09:04 < kanzure> there are tons 09:04 < kanzure> i think that using a web browser to render a bitmap is pretty silly 09:04 < nmz787_i> ? 09:04 < kanzure> you should just use files 09:04 < nmz787_i> you think it's silly is silly 09:04 < kanzure> separation of concerns 09:05 < nmz787_i> that doesn't make sense since it's meant to be a visual check 09:05 < kanzure> you don't need an entire web browser to operate a focused ion beam 09:05 < kanzure> you can visualize things without a web browser 09:05 < kanzure> and without http 09:05 < nmz787_i> when did i say it would operate a fib 09:05 < nmz787_i> so what 09:05 < nmz787_i> i want it to be easy and something that is accessbile 09:06 < kanzure> a browser is just a lot of extra functionality to require 09:07 < kanzure> there are many things that are easy that are not browsers 09:07 < nmz787_i> no way, Chrome is a single requirement, python, wxpython, blah blah blah are multiple 09:07 < nmz787_i> you aren't being sensible this morning 09:07 < kanzure> yeah because binaries are fake 09:07 < kanzure> except the chrome binary is real? 09:08 < nmz787_i> it's reach in the world 09:08 < nmz787_i> chrome is everywhere, take advantage 09:08 < kanzure> if that argument was valid then you would be talking about jvm or something 09:08 < nmz787_i> i can choose what i want to deploy with, plus the libs post-jquery are all so easy to use usually 09:10 < kanzure> chrome is a binary just like a binary that uses python, in case that wasn't clear 09:12 < kanzure> heath: binglide looks fun 09:12 < kanzure> heath: it would also be neat to visualize known pointers and where they link. 09:13 < kanzure> pointers could even change the geometry of the visualization 09:13 < kanzure> nsh: see above 09:15 < chris_99> is this your own FIB nmz787_i 09:15 < nmz787_i> but people don't have python as often as chrome, or other JS enabled browsers, and again chrome is a single install... python has dependency libs that increase installs to be >1 09:15 < kanzure> people wouldn't need python. that's why it's in a binary. 09:15 < nmz787_i> chris_99: nah 09:15 < kanzure> chrome is not the only single-file binary distribution imaginable 09:16 < nmz787_i> duh 09:17 < kanzure> you think chrome doesn't have dependencies? they wrote everything themselves? 09:17 < kanzure> blink, webkit, ssl, that's all stuff they wrote? 09:20 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25166878 09:20 < kanzure> "Global Variation in the Effects of Ambient Temperature on Mortality: A Systematic Evaluation." 09:20 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1097%2FEDE.0000000000000165 09:28 < nmz787_i> kanzure: but it's all installed by a single installer, and most people already have it installed, placing no burden on them 09:28 < kanzure> haha 09:29 < kanzure> look man, it's okay if you don't want to not use a browser, but don't make up bullshit like "it's the only thing that can possibly be simple" 09:29 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-loucqlokcouamfia] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:30 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-174-129-54-125.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 -!- drewbot 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In any case you'll be happy to know that secp256k1 has been added to the GPG development branch, which means you can sign your code with a ECDSA key corresponding to a Bitcoin address if you wish too." 20:40 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-124-179-243-220.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41 -!- abetusk_ is now known as abetusk 20:42 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uygqobdjgefmayfz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:44 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-72-94-11-36.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:49 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-72-94-11-36.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-179-243-220.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-179-243-220.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-179-243-220.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:27 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:02 -!- binaryphyre [~binaryphy@172.56.4.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:03 -!- binaryphyre [~binaryphy@172.56.4.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18 -!- hypron [~hypron@KD182250144115.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-72-94-11-36.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- trotsky [~ruthie@pool-72-94-11-36.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:29 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.71] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 23:37 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:54 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@164-203-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:56 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Sat Aug 30 00:00:50 2014