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01:35 < archels> paperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/NECO_a_00639
01:36 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a5544f6e1b2929fab91df655c082df63.txt
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06:51 < kanzure> http://brainbackups.com/ "Brain Backups is actively developing new methods and has developed a number of proprietary techniques for imaging neurons using synthetic biology, MRI, smart contrast agents and sensors, and aptamer-based technology."
06:53 < kanzure> oh it's just russell hanson
06:59 < archels> hmm, there seem to be some contradictions there, juxtaposing fMRI and smart molecular sensors
06:59 < archels> what are they actually trying to do?
07:00 < archels> he has the most interesting blog - http://russellhanson.com/blog/
07:07 < kanzure> russell used to be in here
07:07 < kanzure> i think
07:09 < chris_99> haha very minimalistic
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07:35 < kanzure> http://blog.chromium.org/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html
07:39 < kanzure> oh, maybe positron emission tomography plus a colorful array of antibodies would be enough for brain reading
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07:55 < balrog> paperbot: http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/co/1992/06/r6078-abs.html
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07:58 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a75934280fbd6f4f921c98f85b3f4f75.txt
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08:08 < kanzure> .title http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/co/1992/06/r6078-abs.html
08:08 < yoleaux> IC Announcements
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08:50 < justanotheruser> How badly does cryogenics mess up your brain? Would a "you" still be recoverable?
08:51 < kanzure> poorly done cooldowns will cause ice crystals that damage tissue
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08:54 < chris_99> don't they pump glycerine or something to help stop that?
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09:06 < justanotheruser> but in the future, if/when we master cooldowns, will that be a problem
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10:58 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGCxlu9lis
10:58 < kanzure> .title
10:58 < yoleaux> Solidame - The Gateway (Original Mix)
11:16 < kanzure> ON_Brep* ptr = const_cast<ON_Brep*>(this); ptr->m_bbox = bbox;
11:17 < kanzure> why bother? m_bbox is in scope, right?
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14:22 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2014.156.html
14:22 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2014.156
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15:13 < pi-> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10839355
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16:26 < pi-> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25159185
16:26 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1007%2Fs12031-014-0406-4
16:29 < pi-> A lot of dead links from paperbot recently...
16:29 < kanzure> i told you to fix the bug
16:29 < kanzure> but you keep complaining instead
16:29 < kanzure> :(
16:29 < pi-> doh
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16:50 < justanotheruser> When a paper is peer reviewed, how many peers is it usually reviewed by?
16:51 < kanzure> totally depends on the journal's policy
16:51 < eudoxia> 4
16:53 < eudoxia> no, i made that up
17:01 < catern> ranges from 0 to INT_MAX
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17:21 < justanotheruser> okay, so 0 and intmax, with a bias towards 4?
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17:34 < kanzure> well, i have never seen a paper get reviewed by 10000 hired reviewers
17:35 < kanzure> or even 500 hired reviewers
17:35 < kanzure> i would say paid but most reviewers aren't paid even if they are hired by the journal
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17:45 < justanotherSJW> interesting. I'm wondering because I'm starting to get to the point where I understand a subject enough to realize that there are major inaccuracies in a peer reviewed paper
17:46 < kanzure> errors definitely happen
17:46 < justanotherSJW> yes, but it is at the point where I think the reviewers don't understand the subject themselves
17:46 < justanotherSJW> the problem is that there aren't very many people in general that understand distributed consensus
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17:49 < kanzure> journals usually have a few editors/reviewers that they use regularly
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18:08 < andytoshi> justanotheruser: in mathematics, the editor usually skims it for interestingness/obvious bullshit then passes it onto one or two actual reviewers
18:08 < andytoshi> these reviewers will read it carefully and share it with their close friends/colleaguse
18:08 < andytoshi> though that is not really part of the process..
18:08 < andytoshi> i'd expect the median number of reviewers in math is 1
18:09 < justanotheruser> I hope the mode is 1 as well o_O
18:10 < andytoshi> ofc, mathematics is mentally reproducible, so for important results, many many people will end up working through it..
18:11 < andytoshi> i routinely pick up random papers from the arxiv or eprint.iacr.org and read them carefully. if i see problems i'll go to stackexchange and/or emails the authors, depending on seriousness. so there is a lot of peer review that gets done that way
18:16 < justanotheruser> interesting. I had the assumption that all peer reviewed paper were reviewed around 3-10 people/groups
18:17 < kanzure> also, not all reviewers communicate with each other
18:18 < kanzure> and not all authors review their final paper... heh.
18:19 < kanzure> when you have 10 or 12 authors you don't really go to each author and ask that they've personally reviewed every excruciating detail for accuracy or correctness
18:45 < kanzure> in fact, if you were a minor author, i'm not really sure how you would get a minor correction submitted
18:57 < andytoshi> emailing your supervisor i suppose
18:57 < kanzure> sometimes the collaborations are a little weirder than that
18:57 < kanzure> like if there were four or five institutions..
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19:47 < kanzure> Ran 103 tests in 0.193s
19:52 < kanzure> hm they are going to make stupid historical dramas about the crap that happens in #bitcoin aren't they
19:53 < kanzure> or bad tv. i bet that'll happen first.
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20:13 < kanzure> hm he claims it's actually source code i wrote https://github.com/openyou/emokit/pull/118#issuecomment-54772905
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20:31 < mokstar> man
20:31 < mokstar> a movie about IRC would be a challenge to make not boring
20:33 < catern> no way
20:33 < catern> you could do dramatic stuff about the struggles between open servers and DDOSs and everything
20:34 < mokstar> make "irc" be a cascading series of opening and closing windows of rapidly scanning CLI data
20:35 < mokstar> kanzure, are you fooling with epoc code?
20:36 < kanzure> years ago, like 2010
20:36 < kanzure> suffering with the aftermath
20:36 < kanzure> pretending to maintain a library
20:36 < kanzure> so far nobody's called me out on it
20:36 < mokstar> ahh, a practical joke?
20:37 < kanzure> no
20:37 < kanzure> i don't have an epoc
20:37 < kanzure> maintaining software would be a fairly elaborate practical joke, not sure where the punch line would be
20:38 < mokstar> well you said you were pretending
20:38 < kanzure> most of the actual functions are not testable from my end
20:38 < kanzure> seems like a losing battle to be maintaining a library like this without access to a device
20:38 < mokstar> fair enough
20:38 < mokstar> want to borrow mine? I'm not using it
20:39 < kanzure> noooo not really
20:39 < mokstar> haha
20:39 < kanzure> i don't really like 'em
20:39 < mokstar> didn't think so
20:39 < kanzure> but thanks for the offer
20:40 < mokstar> I like bluetooth things that go on  your head, besides headphones
20:40 < mokstar> I got a foc.us, it's awful
20:40 < kanzure> the gyro was the most usable thing in that device but you can get the same by taping a smartphone to your forehead
20:40 < mokstar> yeah, but that's not as stylish
20:40 < mokstar> .... barely
20:40 < kanzure> maybe not in your country
20:41 < mokstar> where do people tape smartphones to their heads? (samsung's VR excluded)
20:42 < kanzure> can i use a phone call?
20:42 < kanzure> nsh: finish my joke pls
20:42 < kanzure> really i don't know
20:42 < kanzure> somewhere maybe?
20:42 < mokstar> http://ambroseandrew.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/handsfree_cell_taped_to_head.jpg
20:43 < mokstar> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/20/article-2117417-12349DA8000005DC-228_468x312.jpg
20:50 < kanzure> music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGCxlu9lis
21:09 < mokstar> music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko7rmygHI9Q
21:09 < kanzure> muuusic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8IkyXv_do
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21:30 < kanzure> "Perhaps I am missing something with respect to what 'OCE_BUILD_SHARED_LIB' actually does. I am happy to provide my toolchain file if someone would like to try this. More generally, I am concerned that porting OCE to PNaCl is even possible. I know that OCE has been successfully ported to multiple platforms, and I am hoping that porting to PNaCl is just a matter of compiling and linking everything correctly. Does anyone have any thoughts on ...
21:31 < kanzure> ... this matter?"
21:31 < kanzure> nacl plugin of opencascade? ewwww
21:46 < nmz787> paperbot: http://hackaday.com/2014/08/31/thp-semifinalist-fnir-brain-imager/
21:46 < nmz787> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4613-4529-9_30
21:46 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/48441ea3d11428c0e7788519d18508bf.txt
21:47 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/64f582f9552bb6824c7b783a77d2447f.txt
21:52 < nmz787> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0042682272903947
21:53 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Inhibition%20of%20M13%20phage%20synthesis%20by%20rifampicin%20in%20some%20rifampicin-resistant%20Escherichia%20coli%20mutants%0A%20.txt
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22:53 < nmz787> paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.mi.26.100172.001215
22:53 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1146%2Fannurev.mi.26.100172.001215
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