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06:31 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marooned_in_Realtime
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07:02 < archels> good read?
07:12 < kanzure> dunno
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08:27 < ParahSailin> cell-free fetal dna test should not be $3k http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/04/why-so-many-babies-are-still-being-born-with-down-syndrome/254869/
08:28 < ParahSailin> or are the existing inhibin a tests cheap and effective enough, but its xtians not aborting like decent humans
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09:01 < dingo> man oh man
09:01 < dingo> am i glad i quit
09:02 < dingo> i just learned a new manager of my previous beleives in crazy pseudo-science, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
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09:08 < archels> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0Sq_WvsHk
09:08 < yoleaux> Shoot The Moon - Teaser - YouTube
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10:03 < kanzure> dingo: so he was going to apply nlp to the source code?
10:03 < kanzure> ParahSailin: xtians?
10:20 < ParahSailin> christians
10:20 < kanzure> doh
10:22 < ParahSailin> maybe cell-free fetal dna is so randomly fragmented that the only way to use it is shotgun sequencing and calculating average coverage by chromosome
10:22 < ParahSailin> it would be a lot easier to test if you could throw a few probes in and measure hybridization
10:23 < kanzure> http://blog.andrewcantino.com/blog/2014/09/04/demasking-google-users-with-a-timing-attack/
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11:58 < kanzure> jrayhawk_: would isolation tanks work for providing healthcare to ebola patients?
11:59 < kanzure> seems like flushing is more convenient than all the other kinds of washing and cleaning that non-water-based isolation environments require
11:59 < kanzure> also would require less hazmat suits in general
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12:12 < kanzure> ParahSailin: kickstarter for hazmat suits at hilariously high markup? y/n
12:14 < kanzure> hm https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1070936311/zen-float-tent-first-affordable-isolation-tank-for
12:15 < streety> that ebola thread has gone weird - perhaps useful for treating the handful of victims that reach the developed world but complete non-starter for use in the epidemic area
12:15 < kanzure> haha
12:15 < kanzure> a little weird shouldn't be too bad there, he was asking for unusual ideas
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12:17 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/518473587410612225
12:17 < yoleaux> Received 10 BTC from @dakami txid d8ec84bb163b11ac4d57fec2a55ec4aac2efbe4e692e0b96cef1e155cc48222a and (@jgarzik)
12:17 < streety> "So, how can we as DIYbio community contribute to the fight?" <- seems to be how the thread started
12:17 < kanzure> yeah, possibly a bad idea
12:17 < streety> the bin bags idea seems to have been the only useful idea so far and it was from a nurse in africa
12:17 < kanzure> i mean, education or somtehing maybe, dunno
12:18 < kanzure> oh, is that the goal?
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12:19 < streety> I would say basic hygiene supplies are going to be massively more useful than any of the options discussed so far
12:19 < streety> I suppose I should reply to the thread as well
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14:06 < delinquentme> kanzure, im at sci hack dey
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14:13 < kanzure> delinquentme: gimme scoops on things
14:15 < delinquentme> github has nice location
14:15 < delinquentme> trudat
14:15 < delinquentme> also there was a flying baby
14:15 < kanzure> that's not much of a scoop
14:16 < kanzure> i need names, email addresses, phone numbers, street addresses, and the last 4 of their social
14:17 < delinquentme> fuck. i've been collecting home addresses and CC #s
14:17 < delinquentme> =/
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14:17 < kanzure> that's a start
14:18 < delinquentme> idk dude. more I think that big things are supposed to come less from the face to face and more from distributed
14:18 < delinquentme> WHY ARENT THEY MORE WORRIED ABOUT US KANZ
14:18 < kanzure> because i spend a great deal of effort making sure they aren't worried
14:18 < delinquentme> discuss ?utm_content=buffer95112&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
14:18 < kanzure> people who are bad at ad tracking
14:19 < kanzure> and link campaigns
14:19 < kanzure> "i know, i'll use a system designed 12 years ago because i can't figure out modern javascript"
14:19 < kanzure> you know they don't even track those links server-side? it's totally pointless to be in the url, really
14:19 < kanzure> they almost always have referer data
14:20 < jrayhawk_> javascript can do neat stuff like report the resolution of <body>
14:21 < jrayhawk_> mind you ~10% of browsing is done without javascript, so it's not really good for coverage
14:22 < kanzure> in general you don't want to sell to the people who have javascript turned off anyway
14:22 < kanzure> they tend to not have money
14:22 < kanzure> it's just how it happens
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14:22 < jrayhawk_> i resent your accusations!
14:22 < jrayhawk_> (oh god so poor)
14:23 < jrayhawk_> also i don't think it's true; noscript folks are usually pretty high-functioning technical types
14:23 < jrayhawk_> so it just depends on what you're selling
14:23 < kanzure> aren't technical types like that supposed to be pennypenchers
14:23 < kanzure> er.. what's the right term.
14:23 < jrayhawk_> pinchers
14:23 < jrayhawk_> but no, usually they're the types to buy giant piles of electonics
14:23 < kanzure> hey i was close
14:23 < kanzure> .title http://tacit.livejournal.com/591963.html
14:23 < yoleaux> Franklin Veaux's Journal - Sex Tech: Adopting the Brain's Plasticity
14:24 < kanzure> via bodyhacking@lists.caughq.org
14:24 < kanzure> "Within two hours of that blog post going live, I was contacted by two people offering to help fund the development of such a device, so I'm now[1] working on setting up a company to do the development, and I've contacted the prototyping house again."
14:25 < jrayhawk_> i like it, though combining mechanical stress+silicone+solid parts does not make for product longevity
14:26 < kanzure> the pitch was more interesting than the actual article,
14:26 < kanzure> "Inspired by the interesting hack where some folks connected a camera to an array of electrodes that go on the tongue, and discovered that blind people can learn to 'see' with their tongues, I mused a while ago that it might be possible to exploit the brain's plasticity for purposes less G-rated. What if, I mused, it were possible to equip a strap-on with an array of analog tactile sensors, wired to a series of electrodes worn in the vagina? ...
14:26 < kanzure> ... I blogged about it at:"
14:26 < kanzure> although i don't appreciate how he calls plasticity an exploit
14:26 < kanzure> what a moron
14:27 < jrayhawk_> that said Feeldoe/FF Share type products are already plenty good at inducing female orgasm, so this is moreso for experimentalists
14:27 < ThomasEgi> jrayhawk_, matter of dimensioning stuff right. pretty easy to calculate the lifetime of such parts
14:27 < kanzure> right, seems more like a nice way to get fellows interested in electronics or something
14:27 < kanzure> or clever gags
14:29 < jrayhawk_> man, the Share is not very googleable
14:29 < jrayhawk_> i guess Share XL works
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15:37 < kanzure> paperbot: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2423461
15:37 < kanzure> .title
15:37 < yoleaux> Bitcoin Financial Regulation: Securities, Derivatives, Prediction Markets, and Gambling by Jerry Brito, Houman B. Shadab, Andrea Castillo :: SSRN
15:37 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Bitcoin%20Financial%20Regulation%3A%20Securities%2C%20Derivatives%2C%20Prediction%20Markets%2C%20and%20Gambling.pdf
15:44 < kanzure> hmph
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18:26 < jrayhawk_> “@Jambler24: Insanity is trying the same thing over and over, expecting different results. Which is pretty much the protocol for a PCR.”
18:31 < kanzure> ah but you don't expect different results
18:31 < kanzure> you just write the results down anyway
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20:04 < justanotheruser> 23:01 < kanzure> many have suspected that i am an ai http://heybryan.org/mac.html
20:04 < justanotheruser> Weren't you a markov bot not too long back?
20:05 < kanzure> i hope not
20:06 < justanotheruser> I think so
20:07 < justanotheruser> IIRC, you met some girl that was into dog training or something and uploaded some markovish stuff to your git server
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20:12 < kanzure> the second half of that i'm really unsure about
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20:13 < kanzure> gradstudentbot?
20:13 < justanotheruser> no
20:14 < justanotheruser> kanzure: cat irclogs/fn/##hplusroadmap | grep markov bot
20:14 < justanotheruser> kanzure: cat irclogs/fn/##hplusroadmap | grep "markov bot"
20:14 < justanotheruser> if you actually want the context...
20:19 < kanzure> 17:51 < kanzure> i should do a markov bot that generates random garbage stories like that
20:19 < justanotheruser> thats it?
20:19 < justanotheruser> maybe me saying markov
20:19 < justanotheruser> idk
20:19 < justanotheruser> it was like 2-3 months back I think
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20:54 < kanzure> "And why can't full-scale helicopters use electric motors like the small ones? The reason is that when you scale an airfoil up, the lift it produces increases with its area, which grows with the second power of size, but its weight increases with volume, which grows with the third power of size. Therefore models have much more lift for weight and can afford simple but relatively heavy batteries while full-size aircraft need propulsion systems ...
20:54 < kanzure> ... with higher power density."
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