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05:47 < fenn> "i wonder if there's an excess of low-priced high-end gpus now" not really because they're still in use for mining altcoins
05:49 < FourFire> heh
05:49 < FourFire> yeah did they ever make a litecoin ASIC?
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08:22 < kanzure> yes they made a scrypt asic
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09:44 < kanzure> "python exploit development assistance for gdb" https://github.com/longld/peda
09:44 < kanzure> "ropsearch -- Search for ROP gadgets in memory"
09:44 < kanzure> "shellcode -- Generate or download common shellcodes"
09:46 < chris_99> peda is pretty good
09:47 < chris_99> have you done much RE stuff, i'm trying to think how best to hook to an x11 module
09:49 < kanzure> well i would say my largest reverse engineering project has been https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal and https://github.com/iimarckus/pokered
09:49 < chris_99> :)
09:50 < chris_99> oh i can probably just attach to X hmmm, although if i break on stuff, that would presumably freeze stuff
09:54 < kanzure> do it in a container, chroot or vm
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09:55 < justanotheruser> What website has the most "scrapable" synthesis instructions
09:56 < kanzure> synthesis of whatnow
09:56 < justanotheruser> chemicals in general
09:56 < kanzure> chempub
09:56 < kanzure> erm, pubchem
09:56 < kanzure> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
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09:57 < kanzure> hmm no.
09:57 < chris_99> well yes debugging X with a single computer doesn't work too well
09:58 < justanotheruser> OCCURS IN PETROLEUM (0.5-1.0%). OBTAINED IN DISTILLATION OF PETROLEUM OR BY HYDROGENATION OF BENZENE. IN DISTILLATION OF PETROLEUM THE C4-400 DEG F BOILING RANGE NAPHTHAS ARE FRACTIONATED TO OBTAIN C5-200 DEG F NAPHTHA CONTAINING 10-14% CYCLOHEXANE WHICH ON SUPERFRACTIONATION YIELDS AN 85% CONCN ... FURTHER PURIFICATION /OF 85% CONCENTRATE CYCLOHEXANE/ NECESSITATES ISOMERIZATION OF PENTANES TO CYCLOHEXANE, HEAT CRACKING ...
09:58 < justanotheruser> ... FOR REMOVING OPEN CHAIN HYDROCARBONS AND SULFURIC ACID TREATMENT TO REMOVE AROMATIC CMPD.
09:58 < kanzure> lots of them dump all their steps into stupid diagrams http://www.organic-chemistry.org/Highlights/2014/13October.shtm
09:58 < justanotheruser> I wonder what the error rate parsing this would be
09:58 < kanzure> who has time for diagrams
09:58 < justanotheruser> ikr
10:01 < justanotheruser> kanzure: you know anything I wouldn't need to use machine intelligence to parse? Like A) add 2ml methylene chloride to centrifuge tube B) centrifuge C) ...
10:01 < justanotheruser> I want to try and make a large synthesis tree
10:02 < kanzure> .title http://88proof.com/synthetic_biology/blog/archives/290
10:02 < yoleaux> Don’t Train the Biology Robot: Have the Machine Read the Protocol and Automate Itself – 88 Proof Synth Bio Blog
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10:03 < justanotheruser> kanzure: pls don't crush my dreams
10:03 < kanzure> you're asking something pretty big, you know
10:03 < justanotheruser> ya
10:04 < kanzure> this rabbit might not be in my hat
10:04 < justanotheruser> it may be easier to crowdsource it (not that that is trivial)
10:05 < justanotheruser> just have a defined format: <action> <item> to <characteristic> like transfer contents of test tube C to test tube D
10:05 < kanzure> there was an xml format that someone proposed for pcr.. trying to find it
10:05 < justanotheruser> yes, that would be great
10:05 < kanzure> kjskjskjs: here are things you may be interested in https://github.com/kanzure/skdb/tree/master/doc
10:07 < justanotheruser> I wonder if I could hire a chemistry mechanical turk :P
10:08 < kanzure> hrm well maybe this xml file doesn't exist anymore
10:08 < justanotheruser> D:
10:08 < kanzure> 17:57 < kanzure> hm i wonder where http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/protocols/pcr.xml went
10:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/pcr.xml
10:08 < kanzure> 21:07 < kanzure> those <step>s are just english :/
10:08 < kanzure> too bad
10:10 < kanzure> anyway there's often very little incentive for science-people to write down steps in a software-friendly way
10:10 < kanzure> except for some bullshit altruistic reasons :(
10:23 < justanotheruser> heh
10:24 < justanotheruser> kanzure: regardless of how well documented things currently are using that XML format, don't you think its sufficient?
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10:53 < kanzure> justanotheruser: no, because the steps shouldn't be written in english
10:53 < kanzure> it is hard to parse that
10:54 < justanotheruser> kanzure: well the steps could just be an easy to parse language, right?
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11:57 < kanzure> hm? english?
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12:01 < chris_99> english is rather ambiguous
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13:28 < ParahSailin_> expecto english
13:29 < ParahSailin_> er attempto
13:30 < drethelin> what kind of lame harry potter spell is that
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14:48 < kanzure> nmz787: there are way more neurochemicals than those two.
14:48 < kanzure> *those few
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15:03 < nmz787> eah
15:03 < nmz787> yeah
15:04 < nmz787> i wasn't really sure how to respond actually, since there are realistically so many
15:04 < nmz787> but
15:04 < kanzure> well, nobody has called him out on it
15:04 < nmz787> i guess you have to reduce the complexity to get people to be interested
15:04 < kanzure> everyone else already does that though
15:04 < nmz787> i think someone said something about hormone
15:04 < nmz787> is there an open-source instructables?
15:05 < nmz787> platform
15:05 < kanzure> didn't you already ask this a few weeks ago
15:05 < nmz787> i don't think so
15:05 < nmz787> :/
15:06 < nmz787> i've been a bit under-the-weather lately with some kind of cold type thing
15:06 < nmz787> so maybe I've forgotten
15:06 < kanzure> could've been someone else
15:06 < kanzure> it was in here
15:06 < kanzure> there were a few ocw-style mooc stuffs but otherwise no
15:28 < kanzure> python type vaidation stuff http://www.teleport-json.org/ (meh)
15:47 < kanzure> "Towards reliable storage of 56-bit secrets in human memory" (using spaced repetition) https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity14/sec14-paper-bonneau.pdf
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18:21 < kanzure> "The workings of the immune system are rather like the workings of metabolism: the present vast knowledge, the stuff that takes years to learn and which encompasses many disciplines as no one person can know enough of all of it to make a career of that, is actually basically just a sketch of how things work... [Instead of pursuing that endlesssly], and because the immune system has so many ways of running awry due to malprogramming, there ...
18:21 < kanzure> ... really should be more work done on more gentle ways to reboot it - strip out all immune cells and start over with the patient's stem cells to repopulate it. Aggressive reboot methods involving chemotherapy have been pretty effective when trialed, but that's not something you'd want to do unless there was no alternative."
18:33 < kanzure> https://github.com/trending?l=verilog
18:37 < kanzure> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/18/citizenfour_edward_snowden_review/
18:39 < kanzure> http://opencores.org/websvn,filedetails?repname=btc_dsha256&path=%2Fbtc_dsha256%2Ftrunk%2Frtl%2Fvhdl%2Fsha256core%2Fsha_256_chunk.vhd
18:41 < kanzure> hah it looks like "reason" (i think fightaging.org's reason) has taken to web development and moved to austin https://www.exratione.com/consulting/
18:46 < kanzure> "PO Box 66923, Austin TX 78766"
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22:13 < kanzure> "Preparing to replace google-chrome-unstable 31.0.1650.8-1 (using .../google-chrome-unstable_40.0.2188.2-1_amd64.deb)"
22:13 < kanzure> wasn't this a thing that chrome claimed to auto-update on its own
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22:24 < kanzure> ecdsa stuff http://blog.chain.com/post/95218566791/the-math-behind-bitcoin
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