--- Log opened Wed Jan 07 00:00:15 2015 00:30 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:34 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:58 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:04 < fenn> super lame. "Intel also plans to offer a Linux version of the Compute Stick priced at just $89. That model will have a lighter hardware payload, with only 1GB of RAM and 8GB of storage capacity." 01:04 < fenn> its only redeeming feature is it's made by intel 01:05 < fenn> i got an mk802 II for $40 over a year ago 01:06 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@192.122.131.10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-157-206.lns2.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-187-233-200.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:37 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:42 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:00 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@192.122.131.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:13 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:21 < fenn> jeez look at all that empty space http://www.virten.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Intel-NUC-Components.jpg 02:41 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:15 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:22 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:36 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-174-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:28 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:53 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:53 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:58 < fenn> kragen: http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/3x5px_1 06:03 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-157-206.lns2.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:03 < fenn> some stuff from the early macintosh days is pretty good too http://www.kare.com/portfolio/12_fonts.html http://www.fontsner.com/font/KareFiveDots-59123.html 06:04 < fenn> (not the dingbats) 06:10 < fenn> hmm i never knew there was a steve jobs icon http://www.kareprints.com/?p=1423 06:27 < fenn> "the secret was in the spaces between the letters. Chicago was one of the first proportional fonts, which meant that instead of each character straining to fill up pixels in a specified rectangle, the letters were allowed to take up as much or little space as they needed." 06:27 < fenn> with extremely small pixel fonts, kerning becomes hugely important 06:29 < kanzure> hm 06:31 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-jzdjqkxjugpzelce] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xutsishwndgtmsrq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:33 < heath> https://github.com/Russell91/pythonpy/ 06:34 < heath> "command line kung fu with python" 06:34 < heath> py 'expression' ≅ python -c 'print(expression)' 06:34 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-jzdjqkxjugpzelce] has quit [Client Quit] 06:36 < kanzure> blah 06:38 < kanzure> .title http://researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2015/01/cve-2014-7911-deep-dive-analysis-android-system-service-vulnerability-exploitation/ 06:38 < yoleaux> CVE-2014-7911 – A Deep Dive Analysis of Android System Service Vulnerability and Exploitation - Palo Alto Networks BlogPalo Alto Networks Blog 06:39 < kanzure> .title http://thisissecurity.net/2015/01/03/playing-with-signals-an-overview-on-sigreturn-oriented-programming/ 06:39 < yoleaux> Playing with signals : An overview on Sigreturn Oriented Programming | This is Security :: by Arkoon-Netasq 06:39 < kanzure> netasq can't be a real name 06:40 < fenn> .wik netasq 06:40 < yoleaux> "Founded in 1998, Netasq is an information security company based in France. It has designed and markets Unified Threat Management solutions (hardware appliances based on a derivative of FreeBSD) which combine network and application firewall with embedded anti-virus, anti-spam, VPN and content filtering functionality with an integrated …" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netasq 06:40 < kanzure> "Machine learning methods for computer security" (a pile of conference talk abstracts) http://drops.dagstuhl.de/opus/volltexte/2013/3790/pdf/dagrep_v002_i009_p109_s12371.pdf 06:51 < kanzure> there's something missing 06:55 < kanzure> what was the conclusion of the radio transceiver stuff? nobody is bothering, or nobody knows how? 07:02 < heath> .title http://lunrjs.com/ 07:02 < yoleaux> lunr.js - A bit like Solr, but much smaller and not as bright 07:02 < heath> https://github.com/olivernn/lunr.js 07:03 < heath> used by github's help site 07:03 < heath> referenced in https://github.com/blog/1939-how-github-uses-github-to-document-github 07:16 < heath> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2rgsan/i_am_elon_musk_ceocto_of_a_rocket_company_ama/cnfre0a 07:17 < heath> "I do kinda feel like my head is full! My context switching penalty is high and my process isolation is not what it used to be. Frankly, though, I think most people can learn a lot more than they think they can. They sell themselves short without trying. One bit of advice: it is important to view knowledge as sort of a semantic tree -- make sure you understand the fundamental principles, ie the trunk and big branches, before you get into the leaves/d 07:18 < kanzure> "billionaire complains about context switching costs, news at 11" 07:26 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Client Quit] 07:31 < kanzure> "To authorities responsible for the measurement and distribution of time" http://datacenter.iers.org/web/guest/eop/-/somos/5Rgv/latest/16 07:48 < heath> i tend to forget about http://linux.die.net/man/8/tc 07:56 < heath> this is pretty neat if you ever have to deal with vanilla js: http://flowtype.org/ 07:58 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 < kanzure> hi Burninate 08:00 < Burninate> Hello 08:16 < heath> https://github.com/lukasz-madon/awesome-remote-job/ "A curated list of awesome remote working resources." 08:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:19 < heath> http://blog.lfe.io/tutorials/2015/01/01/1215-scientific-computing-on-the-erlang-vm/ 08:19 < heath> .tite 08:19 < heath> .title 08:19 < yoleaux> Scientific Computing on the Erlang VM - LFE Tutorials, News, & Updates 08:20 < heath> https://github.com/lfex/lsci 08:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-174-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-162-3-15.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:41 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-201-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:55 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-xjwdidkjqwtiybhc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xutsishwndgtmsrq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:03 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-xjwdidkjqwtiybhc] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:22 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:22 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:32 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:38 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:39 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:21 < heath> https://github.com/amjith/pgcli 11:22 < heath> "Postgres CLI with autocompletion and syntax highlighting" 12:18 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2.148.125.235.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:31 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:34 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:36 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2.148.125.235.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:47 < nmz787_i> was this posted here recently? 12:47 < nmz787_i> .title http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519314006778 12:47 < yoleaux> The ribosome as a missing link in the evolution of life 12:48 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519314006778 12:48 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20The%20ribosome%20as%20a%20missing%20link%20in%20the%20evolution%20of%20life%0A%20.pdf 12:49 < ParahSailin> wow 12:50 < kanzure> ParahSailin: ? 12:51 < ParahSailin> a bit surprised to see paperbot semi-working 12:51 < ParahSailin> even if all it did was retrieve html and call it a pdf 12:53 < fenn> i'm downloading a big file in case it disappears. plz mention if it causes a slowdown 13:03 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:03 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:15 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.17.26.251.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 < nmz787_i> .wik ok 13:19 < yoleaux> ""OK" (also spelled "okay", "ok", or "O.K.") is a word denoting approval, acceptance, agreement, assent, or acknowledgment. "OK", as an adjective, can also express acknowledgment without approval. "OK" has frequently turned up as a loanword in many other languages." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ok 13:19 < nmz787_i> very muddled etymology! 13:20 < fenn> nmz787_i: it's an old english acronym - "oll klear" 13:22 < fenn> or "oll korrect" 13:23 < kanzure> "OK is slang for ACK" 13:29 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 < ParahSailin> english never had a "correct" spelled with a k 13:47 < kanzure> what about with an f? 13:57 < fenn> fo'rizzle 14:14 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:26 -!- nArkos_ [~rkos@228.ip-176-31-189.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:27 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:43 < nmz787_i> 3-camera 3D on this new 'thinnest' tablet http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/6/7499603/dell-venue-8-7000-available-today-ces-2015 14:43 < nmz787_i> fenn: that wiki says it could have origins in africa or native america 15:08 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:09 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:14 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:22 < kanzure> hi narwh4l 15:28 < narwh4l> hey kanzure 15:28 < kanzure> sup 15:28 < narwh4l> not too much, coding a web service to PCA on large datasets with a GPU 15:29 < narwh4l> v0.2 will come with modeling methods and a system for picking good model candidates 15:29 < narwh4l> but yeah 15:29 < narwh4l> also I'm writing an article in Make! 15:29 < narwh4l> so there's that 15:29 < narwh4l> Coving NVIDIA's Jetson TK1 baord 15:29 < narwh4l> board 15:30 < narwh4l> Main goal is to write something good enough to get their next board for free too ^)^ 15:30 < narwh4l> ^_^ 15:30 < narwh4l> Since you like bitcoin, I'm going to benchmark hashrate vs power 15:31 < narwh4l> since TK1 is marketed as a low power chip 15:31 < narwh4l> let's see just how low :D 15:31 < narwh4l> also, wtf is with the btc price this week? 15:32 < kanzure> bitstamp got hacked yo 15:32 < narwh4l> yeah but it tanked before that 15:32 < kanzure> they say they are rewriting their software and will be done in 48 hours 15:32 < kanzure> yes the hack was known before they knew about it 15:32 < narwh4l> that's nice, I hope they compensate their users as well 15:32 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric/status/552861244714405891 15:32 < yoleaux> We are fully rebuilding our systems from the ground up so that customers can use @Bitstamp with full confidence and trust. (@nejc_kodric) 15:32 < kanzure> "it'll be done by lunch, guys" 15:33 < narwh4l> haha 15:34 < narwh4l> so you're saying I missed a great buy op 15:34 < narwh4l> hack news is always a buying op 15:34 < kanzure> you don't need to buy man just ask me for some 15:34 < narwh4l> haha 15:34 < narwh4l> I'll take 6? 15:34 < kanzure> gimme an address 15:34 < narwh4l> haha, one minute 15:39 < kanzure> there you go 15:41 < narwh4l> Well, anyway if you need some coding done in the future let me know ^_^ 15:41 < narwh4l> I like to repay people for things 15:43 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 < kanzure> hi night 16:01 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.17.26.251.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:11 < nmz787_i> what is bitstamp? and how do they expect people will keep using their site if they just flushed a bunch of ppls money? 16:12 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:13 < nmz787_i> hmm, I could be the first microfab company to accept btc, unless someone beat me to it 16:14 < kanzure> they didn't flush anything, they got hacked 16:14 < kanzure> (or they stole it from themselves) 16:16 < nmz787_i> 'flushed' as in 'down the toilet' as in 'gone to shit' 16:16 < nmz787_i> are they actually going to reimburse? 16:19 < kanzure> nobody knows 16:25 -!- narhw4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-157-206.lns2.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 < kanzure> hmm 16:27 < kanzure> .title http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/potential-signs-ancient-life-mars-rover-photos/ 16:27 < yoleaux> Potential Signs of Ancient Life in Mars Rover Photos - Astrobiology Magazine 16:40 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:45 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:45 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:57 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:13 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:20 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v39/n3/full/npp2013243a.html 17:20 < paperbot> ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='libgen.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /scimag/librarian/form.php (Caused by : [Errno -5] No address associated with hostname) (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 375, in send) 17:21 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/paperbot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21 < kanzure> rip libgen 17:22 < ebowden> Damn, paperbot doesn't work. 17:23 < kanzure> libgen person died 17:23 < ebowden> ? 17:23 < ebowden> What do you mean? 17:26 < kanzure> he dead dawg 17:40 < kanzure> this is the monitor setup i need http://i.imgur.com/sLs5n.jpg 17:51 < narhw4l> kanzure, how many are you at now? 17:51 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:51 < kanzure> i'd rather not say, it's embarrassingly low 17:51 < narhw4l> lower than 2? :) 17:52 < narhw4l> don't answer that 17:52 < narhw4l> Just saying, my number is also pretty low. 6 is probably ideal 17:53 < delinquentme> kanzoo 17:53 < delinquentme> pep talk 17:53 < delinquentme> PEP ME. 17:53 < delinquentme> about to chat w 3d robotics 17:54 < kanzure> wtf their robots should totally operate in four dimensions what are they thinking 17:55 < delinquentme> kanzoo this doesnt halp 17:56 < superkuh> Forget robots. Let's just stick telepresence riding/guiding machines on goats and get some mechanical turks from the Goat Simulator ppol. 17:56 < superkuh> Er, pool. 18:10 -!- narhw4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:14 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmriuxupeyfxhivw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:19 < kanzure> that could be arranged 18:29 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:49 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:49 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 < delinquentme> tre lulz 18:56 < delinquentme> went aweshum 18:56 < delinquentme> welcome to silicon valley 18:56 < kanzure> taco copter should deliver tacos during outdoor music events 18:57 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:04 < delinquentme> kanzure, star's project ! 19:04 < delinquentme> yeah I dont think taco copter is flying anymore 19:10 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:11 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:19 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:25 < ParahSailin> libgen.in works 19:27 < ParahSailin> http://libgen.in/scimag8/10.1038/nature14098.pdf 19:28 < kanzure> checkhas /scimag/librarian/form.php ? 19:29 < ParahSailin> has 19:29 < kanzure> cool 19:33 < ParahSailin> well, the authors didnt bother to post the draft genome they assembled 19:33 < ParahSailin> who'd be interested in that kind of thing anyway 19:34 < kanzure> we need to convince jrayhawk to document more things he thinks should be replaced in human genome 19:34 < ParahSailin> they even claim to have submitted it to genbank under KP006601 but that is totally false 19:34 < kanzure> perhaps they mean korean genbank 19:34 < kanzure> cc faceface 19:35 < kanzure> where is he 19:39 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:51 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- shubhamg_ [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:55 -!- skyraider [uid41097@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yyjkwodlofudcets] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:56 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:57 -!- shubhamg_ [~shubhamgo@nusnet-228-31.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:14 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmriuxupeyfxhivw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:24 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-48-18.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:30 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:34 < jrayhawk_> i am generally A-OK with letting lower lifeforms bear the cost of manufacturing nutrients for me 20:35 < jrayhawk_> start with adult lactase persistence, i guess 20:35 < jrayhawk_> that is an adaptation that seems to be broadly useful 20:37 < kanzure> such bold claim 20:37 < kanzure> (i was expecting a slightly more dangerous statement) 20:40 < ParahSailin> i disagree there, a working GULO gene would probably be pretty beneficial to humans 20:40 < ParahSailin> phytase would be a good one to have also 20:41 -!- poohbear is now known as tigger 20:41 < kanzure> what are you disagreeing with 20:42 < jrayhawk_> what's the metabloic cost of phytase, though 20:42 < jrayhawk_> i mean there was probably a reason it's gone 20:42 < jrayhawk_> it's sortof a ludicrously useful thing to have 20:43 < jrayhawk_> s/metabloic/metabolic 20:43 < ParahSailin> phytase was never a vertebrate gene 20:43 < jrayhawk_> oh, huh 20:43 < kanzure> i suspect that random variations in metabolism between animals is probably partly managed by large-scale homeostasis (besides just micro-scale energy balancing) 20:44 < kanzure> because everything would be doomed if even the most mundane slightest metabolic variation always caused energy imbalance and collapse 20:44 < ParahSailin> the enviropig apparently uses the e coli phytase 20:47 < jrayhawk_> MTHFR genetic defects are probably more important than lactase 20:49 < kanzure> we could maybe manage things like more direct and specific overrides of inflammation 20:57 -!- frege [~frege@unaffiliated/frege] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:02 < jrayhawk_> such as? 21:03 < jrayhawk_> inflammation, broadly speaking, seems useful 21:12 < kanzure> yes but having more specific control over inflammation could be useful as way 21:12 < kanzure> *as well 21:13 < frege> inflamation where? 21:13 < kanzure> such as optogenetic control over transcription factors that upregultae infallmation 21:13 < frege> I got a shin splint, I have to reduce the inflamation 21:13 < frege> how could I do that? 21:13 < kanzure> who are you 21:13 < kanzure> if you remove the leg then you will have zero inflammation of the shin 21:14 < frege> kanzure: I'm a runner 21:14 < kanzure> you can run just fine on a prosthetic 21:15 < frege> kan how old are you? 21:16 < frege> kanzure: what do you do? 21:17 * kanzure sleeps 21:24 < ParahSailin> improve your gait 22:16 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:16 -!- tigger is now known as poohbear 22:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-157-206.lns2.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Jan 08 00:00:16 2015