--- Log opened Sun Jan 25 00:00:34 2015 00:19 -!- phm42 [~l@2001:8b0:856:1:7895:9da8:df6a:8d71] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:36 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:42 < nmz787> .title http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/ 00:42 < yoleaux> CPI Home 00:42 < nmz787> Consumer Products Inventory An inventory of nanotechnology-based consumer products introduced on the market. 00:47 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:48 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:27 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:43 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nslagjvqkgatyvpy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- Boscop__ [me@188.126.90.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:38 -!- FourFire [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:c0a0:4a54:9dd0:d13d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- Boscop [~me@e102.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- Boscop [~me@e102.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Changing host] 05:51 -!- Boscop [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:58 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:58 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:01 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@167.56.20.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:06 < kanzure> beep 06:17 < FourFire> boop 06:18 < eudoxia> i wonder if some day we'll post an particular combination of boops and beeps that will trigger some dead man's switch 06:18 < eudoxia> BEEP BOOP BEEP RECEIVED DELETING ALL LOGS 06:27 < kanzure> he's on to me 06:28 < FourFire> I think you just have a very high ping, kanzure 06:33 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-209.elisa.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:44 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nslagjvqkgatyvpy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:51 < narwh4l> kanzure has been rooted. He is not really kanzure. Replaced body and all, he is now only a remotely controlled shell 06:53 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 -!- balrog [~balrog@discferret/developer/balrog] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-209.elisa.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:c0a0:4a54:9dd0:d13d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:27 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:c0a0:4a54:9dd0:d13d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27 -!- FourFire [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:c0a0:4a54:9dd0:d13d] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:29 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:52 -!- balrog [~balrog@discferret/developer/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:53 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfzntviyjvfmzwbz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjaijntlxcbhjedn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- cursive [~sqrt@unaffiliated/cursive] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- QuadIngi is now known as FourFire 08:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@167.56.20.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-146-24-127.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- erasei [erasei@x.kaw.cc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- pasky_ [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:15 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-146-24-127.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:15 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: chris_99, erasei_ 09:22 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- jaboja [~Thunderbi@host-79.173.2.223.tesatnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-146-24-127.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:33 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-80-124-115.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:3984:5bca:6642:554d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10 < kanzure> hmm mitragynine is a stimulant apparently 11:10 < kanzure> found in mitragyna speciosa 11:11 < kanzure> mild stimulant, at least 11:21 < kanzure> fenn: cubespawn could possibly be useful as an interchangeable parts system, specifically for automation rather than just widgets and screws. 11:21 < kanzure> (i saw in the logs the other day that nobody had figured out a plausible excuse or motivation for cubespawn) 11:23 < nmz787> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCaHI4NyhSI 11:23 < yoleaux> CH427 ExptAnion2 Fluor Quench - YouTube 11:31 < kanzure> "Sort of like a giant chicken tractor in water" man i like eric 12:06 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:33 -!- jaboja [~Thunderbi@host-79.173.2.223.tesatnet.pl] has quit [Quit: jaboja] 12:34 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjaijntlxcbhjedn] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:44 -!- strages [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vlzyihcjerwkdurl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:45 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iacawxyyuwagecjd] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:09 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:ec46:8a5c:223:16cc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:13 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:3984:5bca:6642:554d] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:17 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBiOqX6ycp4 13:17 < yoleaux> OpenBuilds Nema 23 Lead Actuator Example Build - YouTube 13:30 < kanzure> this is a good sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w98B-SKhVRI 13:31 < kanzure> (someone's lead screw actuator thingy) 13:34 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:43 -!- tastybuds [2ebe25b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.190.37.179] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 < kanzure> title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgVUd3-FBE 13:45 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgVUd3-FBE 13:45 < yoleaux> Magnetic Lead Screw Prototype - AAU - YouTube 13:47 -!- tastybuds [2ebe25b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.190.37.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:52 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:53 < nmz787> .title http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/29/dolphin-assisted-births-are-a-thing/ 13:53 < yoleaux> Dolphin-Assisted Births Are a Thing | TIME.com 14:02 -!- delinquentme [a2f516a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.245.22.166] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:03 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:06 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:16 < kanzure> http://www.wsj.com/articles/first-u-s-bitcoin-exchange-set-to-open-1422221641 14:19 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bepzvdrtlnqkaubj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:ec46:8a5c:223:16cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:32 -!- strages [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzelqwojbqubjsdq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:34 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqrymijoewuxyqxf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:48 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:04 -!- ivan`_ [~ivan@192.241.198.49] has quit [Changing host] 15:04 -!- ivan`_ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:04 -!- ivan`_ is now known as ivan` 15:25 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.17.191.178.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- Burnin8 is now known as Burninate 15:45 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.17.191.178.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:53 -!- poohbear [~tigger@unaffiliated/tigger] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Palaver http://palaverapp.com/"] 16:00 < kanzure> "Even if a compact binary encoding is a high priority, there are more "standard" choices than Google Protocol Buffers. For example, ASN.1 is a very rigorously defined standard that has been around for decades, and ASN.1 even has an XML encoding (XER) that is directly convertible to/from the binary encoding (BER/DER), given the schema. In practice, I'm mostly agnostic about what encoding is actually used in BIP70, and I wouldn't fault ... 16:00 < kanzure> ... BIP70 for choosing Google Protocol Buffers, but the very existence of Protobuf perplexes me, as it apparently re-solves a problem that was solved 40 years ago by ASN.1. It's as though the engineers at Google weren't aware that ASN.1 existed." 16:00 < kanzure> hrm 16:00 < kanzure> https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/faq https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/protobuf/eNAZlnPKVW4 16:00 < kanzure> welp there you go 16:04 < yorick> ASN.1 is horrible, though 16:04 < yorick> (to read, as a standard) 16:06 < kanzure> http://mixmin.net/nymserver.pl 16:06 < kanzure> http://mixmin.net/draft-mimix-01.html 16:06 < kanzure> http://mixmin.net/draft-sassaman-mixmaster-XX.html 16:08 < kanzure> .title http://mixmin.net/pimix/ 16:08 < yoleaux> Mixmaster on Raspberry Pi 16:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@71-34-200-163.omah.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 < kanzure> "anonget facilitates browsing the Internet with strong anonymity via urlmixnym.net [1]. Given a list of URLs, anonget encrypts the list and a fresh random key and formats it for mailing by mixmaster [2] to urlmixnym.net through a chain of anonymizing remailers. The request contains nothing to identify you or your site, and the outgoing mail is indistinguishable from other remailer traffic that you may generate. urlmixnym.net ... 16:27 < kanzure> ... then gets the requested information from the Internet, encrypts it to the fresh key, and broadcasts it worldwide on Usenet newsgroup alt.anonymous.messages. The fresh key (saved by anonget) is used to recognize and decrypt the reply. No one, not even the mixnym.net administrator, is able to link content being fetched with any particular user, or with other requests." 16:27 < kanzure> "Of course, you are taking a full feed of a.a.m at all times without interruption, separating wheat from chaff only after it's all behind closed doors. Otherwise, the world is informed about which articles you find interesting. Remember, long random latency is part of the price of anonymity. It can't be done with TOR or any other low-latency method." 16:28 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:37 -!- delinquentme [a2f516a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.245.22.166] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:45 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:47 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:52 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:54 < kanzure> backwards compatible back to python1 https://github.com/mixminion/mixminion/blob/35b33d945afb89a0a7438219c2e89906e0191e61/lib/mixminion/Main.py 16:57 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:30 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@71-34-200-163.omah.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:40 -!- voidfire [~voidfire@shellie.darchoods.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:41 -!- voidfire [~voidfire@shellie.darchoods.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:45 -!- delinquentme [a2f516a6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.245.22.166] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:45 -!- voidfire [~voidfire@shellie.darchoods.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:46 -!- voidfire [~voidfire@shellie.darchoods.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:47 -!- narwh4l [~michael@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56 < kanzure> the opening comments in the preface here are surprisingly weak for someone claiming to be writing an article called "why i am not an austrian economicist" http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm 17:57 < kanzure> er, *economist 18:03 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:07 < kanzure> the8thbit|work: btw, openworm people are responsive by email e.g. https://groups.google.com/group/openworm-discuss 18:14 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:39 < kanzure> "A high-bandwidth electromagnetic MEMS motion stage for scanning applications" http://iopscience.iop.org/0960-1317/22/10/105012 18:39 < kanzure> "This paper presents the design, fabrication methods and experimental results for a MEMS-based out-of-plane electromagnetic motion stage for scanning applications. The combination of electromagnetic actuation and a flexure-supported platform provides linear bidirectional motion with high precision. A planar microcoil and a permanent magnet are used to generate a Lorentz force, which drives the flexure-supported platform. The copper ... 18:39 < kanzure> ... microcoil is electroplated on a silicon substrate and the platform is fabricated through silicon bulk micromachining of a silicon-on-insulator wafer. The resonant frequency of the fabricated motion stage is approximately 2.0 kHz, which results in an open-loop control bandwidth greater than 500 Hz. Experimental results verify that the stage has highly linear bidirectional motion with negligible hysteresis and nonlinearity over a ± ... 18:39 < kanzure> ... 2.7 µm range. Additionally, excellent high-frequency tracking performance is demonstrated using open-loop control, with a tracking error below 6.5 nm RMS for scan rates up to 200 Hz." 18:40 < kanzure> three-axis mems motion http://iopscience.iop.org/0960-1317/24/7/075009 18:41 < kanzure> "With these features, the presented XYZ stage is successfully fabricated and demonstrates the range of motion of 53.98, 49.15, and 22.91 µm along X, Y, and Z axes, respectively. The coupled motion errors among the engaged stages can be reduced to be less than 1 µm with the proposed compensation method." 18:41 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14 < kanzure> "Design of fluidic obstacles for maximized shear forces to induce cell lysis" http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/DiCarloGulati.PDF 19:15 < kanzure> http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/cadtools/sugar/ 19:15 < kanzure> "SUGAR is a simulation tool for MEMS devices based on nodal analysis techniques from the world of integrated circuit simulation. Beams, electrostatic gaps, circuit elements, etc. are modeled by small, coupled systems of differential equations." 19:16 < kanzure> sugar manual http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/cadtools/sugar/Paper/user.pdf 19:17 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:19 < kanzure> .to genehacker "Achieving motion in a plane orthogonal to the substrate" (in mems) http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/DungaSatyanarayana.pdf 19:19 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to genehacker. 19:20 < kanzure> .to genehacker "Method for attaching fluidic interconnects using resistively heated gold" http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/Edd.pdf 19:20 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to genehacker. 19:22 -!- Boscop_ [me@178.73.223.92] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:22 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:26 -!- Boscop [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:26 < kanzure> .to genehacker "An electrostatically-actuated rotational micromirror" http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/JaasmaSanchez.pdf 19:26 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to genehacker. 19:27 < kanzure> .to genehacker air bubble array http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/JonesYu.pdf 19:27 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to genehacker. 19:43 < kanzure> .to genehacker cmos micromirror method http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/NgOo.pdf 19:43 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to genehacker. 19:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.161.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:59 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-181.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:01 < nmz787> MP3H6115A6U http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~pister/245/project/DiCarloGulati.PDF 20:01 < nmz787> whoops 20:14 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:15 < nmz787> "The Consolidated Micromechanical Element Library (CaMEL) is alibrary of MEMS cels and is imilar to standard cel libraries that proliferate in VLSI design. The CaMEL library consits of two independent parts; the nonparameterized cel database and the parameterized micromechanical element library." 20:18 < nmz787> 15 dies, $5800 http://www.memscap.com/products/mumps/metalmumps/pricing 20:18 < nmz787> 45 for $8800 20:19 < kanzure> that's doable, but a little annoying i guess 20:19 < nmz787> "MUMPs® is low-cost with quick turnaround. The processes are Standard Processes so the properties and layer-to-layer dynamics are well-understood and documented. Using MUMPs® supports the pragmatic design strategy utilized by MEMSCAP's commercial customers, where the designer starts with a fixed process and then creates a design optimized for that process. This approach is superior to a design-first strategy because it leads to fewer ... 20:19 < nmz787> ... design iterations, lower- and fixed-cost development, and less potholes in the road to both functionality and volume production." 20:21 < kanzure> sounds right 20:21 < kanzure> design iterations are the worst 20:22 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/MUMPS_process.pdf 20:23 < nmz787> 8800/45 = 195.55 which isn't disposable, so it's life would have to be pretty long, or prototype-short 20:25 < nmz787> some ~$2 mini air pumps... too bad pressure sensors for PDMS valves (3 to 20 psi) would be around $11 each http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY-DC-3V-air-Pressure-Pump-400-ma-micro-air-pump-Wrist-Blood-Pressure-Monitor-FOR/2054885658.html 20:27 < nmz787> so a pump, pressure cylinder, and single regulator and the ~$6 pneumatic valves may or may not beat that depending on how many valves are needed. They are still large enough to want to limit their use. The resistive-heater bubble valves seem very promising to me. 20:28 < kanzure> i am not familiar with bubble valves 20:46 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:13 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 22:16 -!- phm42 [~l@2001:8b0:856:1:a91f:9c9a:69b5:a757] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:21 < Qfwfq> https://github.com/nmathewson/mixminion/blob/master/TODO 22:21 < justanotheruser> Is there an actual roadmap I can find? 22:28 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:28 -!- Genestealer [Genesteale@130.85.202.243] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- Genestealer [Genesteale@130.85.202.243] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:14 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35 -!- phm4242 [~o@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:48 < nmz787> "location: USA" $482 http://www.ebay.com/itm/CO2-LASER-ENGRAVING-MACHINE-FDA-COMPLIANT-W-COOLING-FAN-SAFE-DURABLE-USE-GREAT-/111215845517?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e4fb208d 23:48 < nmz787> .title 23:48 < yoleaux> CO2 Laser Engraving Machine FDA Compliant w Cooling Fan Safe Durable Use Great | eBay --- Log closed Mon Jan 26 00:00:35 2015