--- Log opened Thu Mar 12 00:00:19 2015 00:32 -!- Panko_ [~Panko@p2216-ipngn100104sinnagasak.nagasaki.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:59 -!- zadock [~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:20 -!- _TK_ [~TK@82.131.63.68.cable.starman.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- Panko_ [~Panko@p2216-ipngn100104sinnagasak.nagasaki.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33 -!- Shannon [~Shannon@unaffiliated/shannon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:08 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:20 < archels> haha, we're doing a "One Sentence Summary" now in papers? 03:20 < archels> lazy crowd 03:22 < archels> pretty pictures of dendritic spines http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2015/03/11/016329.full.pdf 03:23 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 -!- Shannon_ [~Shannon@unaffiliated/shannon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:44 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@pool-151-200-31-189.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46 -!- Shannon [~Shannon@unaffiliated/shannon] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:47 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:50 -!- Shannon_ is now known as Shannon 04:01 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:55 -!- _TK_ [~TK@82.131.63.68.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:56 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgcrunasnzvuvjlc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:47 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-54-98.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@5351D0D2.cm-6-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:09 < andytoshi> fenn: "argument of knowledge" because it's only computationally sound, or because "proof" is a bullshit word regardless? 06:09 < andytoshi> fenn: ah, because A is what's in the acronym ... yeah, you're right 06:16 -!- yorick_ is now known as yorick 06:19 -!- Shannon [~Shannon@unaffiliated/shannon] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:52 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@pool-173-74-74-250.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:05 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@5351D0D2.cm-6-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 07:19 < kanzure_> beep boop 07:42 -!- _TK_ [~TK@85.253.81.51.cable.starman.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:56 < nickjohnson> So, I'm about to launch my next Kickstarter, for an Arduino-compatible DDS signal generator and frequency counter. I'd really appreciate some feedback on the page and video before I launch. Any thoughts? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nickjohnson/1243692410?token=8bd558fb 08:06 < chris_99> looks cool, i was looking at the AD5932 recently 08:08 < nickjohnson> IIRC, I evaluated that, but picked the AD9838 because it's a lot cheaper, and the frequency sweep features can be reproduced by the microcontroller 08:10 < chris_99> yeah it looks like its around ~4x cheaper 08:12 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgcrunasnzvuvjlc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:21 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kqmfqoppkngovbre] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:16 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:03 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 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controlled oscillator, and adjusts the voltage according to temperature 11:45 < chris_99> aha neat 11:46 < chris_99> i've got some of those archels, they glow a nice purple colour i found after opening them up 11:46 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:49 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:51 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBlDGX95eys 11:51 < yoleaux> Kanzi An Ape of Genius Part 1 - YouTube 11:52 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d75-156-90-64.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:24 < delinquentme> kanzure, ||= equivalent in pythong 12:26 < ParahSailin> write it out 12:32 -!- Beatzebub_ [~beatzebub@d75-156-90-64.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:32 < kanzure> blah = blah or 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16:08 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@46.156.176.52.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:35 -!- TK_ [~TK@85.253.81.51.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:41 < fenn> 34% of gamma ray emission sources are unknown http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/10_Gev_graph.html 16:43 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 < kanzure> hmm 17:05 < fenn> google shutting down google code :( 17:05 < fenn> gitorious was paid to shut down last week 17:05 < fenn> what's left 17:06 < fenn> i don't want github to turn into facebook 2.0 17:07 < fenn> it's crap like this that makes me want people to use IPFS 17:11 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12 < jrayhawk> i host git repos 17:15 < fenn> if you're serious about it, now would be a good time to advertise 17:15 < fenn> even just a comment on hacker news would likely get a lot of interest 17:15 < fenn> i'm more concerned with links breaking and the half life of web pages and links rapidly falling 17:16 < fenn> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html has comments from the CEO of gitlab and (ex-) CEO of gitorious 17:16 < fenn> (not like it matters) 17:17 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 < fenn> wtf is wrong with chris dibona, "open source advocate" heartily recommending gitlab, who just paid to shut down the major AGPL open source code repository 17:19 < catern> fenn: what AGPL repository? 17:20 < fenn> gitorious 17:20 < archels> he must be an open source advocate rather than a free software advocate 17:20 < kanzure> dibona posted a comment on hacker news and the gitlab purpose was like "thanks, i'm stealing that" 17:20 < kanzure> *gitlab person 17:21 < archels> afaik the main point of gitlab is to let people set up their own, local repositories 17:21 < kanzure> nah they have some enterprise product 17:22 < archels> so this is not so much a step towards monoculture 17:22 < archels> yeah, well, they have to make money somehow 17:22 < fenn> they sell crippleware, fuck them 17:22 < fenn> also, they shut down gitorious, so fuck them again 17:22 < fenn> also their mascot is creepy as hell 17:25 < kanzure> well at least nasa keeps their papers online 17:25 < archels> hehe yes 17:25 < kanzure> archels: they don't 17:25 < fenn> huh? no they didn't 17:26 < fenn> there are huge swaths of nasa technical reports server data missing for no particular reason 17:29 < archels> kanzure: I wouldn't trust them to, no 17:29 < archels> maybe archiveteam or other internetpersons have a chunk 17:30 < fenn> i doubt it 17:30 < fenn> archiveteam didn't really exist until geocities was shut down 17:31 < fenn> oops i might have some dates wrong 17:31 < fenn> nasa NTRS goes offline 2013-03-21 17:32 < fenn> geocities shut down 2009-04 17:33 < fenn> the difference is that geocities stayed online for a few months before disappearing completely, so there was time to copy some of it 17:34 < catern> fenn: is gitlab actually crippleware? I set it up once, seemed to work 17:35 < fenn> https://about.gitlab.com/features/#compare 17:37 < fenn> no git-annex, no hooks, no group membership in "community edition" 17:37 < catern> ah, well, all these web uis are trash anyway. that does look pretty bad though 17:44 < archels> I use a local GitLab install almost daily and am pretty happy with it--as far as web UIs go though, yeah 17:45 < fenn> i had actually never heard of gitlab until they shut down gitorious out of the blue 17:48 < kanzure> fenn, you might know gitlab as gitlabhq 17:48 < kanzure> they are the same people 17:51 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:20 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.71] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 * nmz787_i was just idling in ##hplusroapmap... total bore in there 18:21 < nmz787_i> .title http://www.omscs.gatech.edu/ 18:21 < yoleaux> OMSCS - Georgia Institute of Technology 18:21 < nmz787_i> "The Georgia Institute of Technology, Udacity and AT&T have teamed up to offer the first accredited Master of Science in Computer Science that students can earn exclusively through the Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) delivery format and for a fraction of the cost of traditional, on-campus programs." 18:23 < nmz787_i> 'under 7k' 18:31 < heath> nmz787_i: old news 18:31 < heath> that was last year's news, are they just now opening it up? 18:45 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-48-26-82.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:53 < heath> http://img.pandawhale.com/gr0lEm-how-small-bitcoin-miners-lose-hxPj.jpeg 19:03 < fenn> he should be nude, because it's actually a nude beach/cruising spot 19:03 < fenn> also the first place i saw an in-the-wild aerial drone 19:06 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:14 < fenn> branch-level write access control makes a lot of sense for code repositories 19:19 < fenn> hmm.. "I'm expecting Google to purchase GitHub next" hmm.. 19:20 < fenn> really not looking forward to having plus linked to everything everywhere all the time mandatory 19:22 < fenn> "So basically this is our 5 year warning on GitHub closing down" 19:22 < fenn> it would be funny, but it's probably true 19:23 < kanzure> i don't see the humor here 19:23 < kanzure> what's so bad about google code shutting down? doesn't everyone compulsively archive the shit that matters to them? 19:24 < nmz787_i> http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/27wjrp/scanning_electron_micrographs_of_a_used_8_shaves/ 19:24 < fenn> kanzure: link rot, and abandoned projects that you can't find because the hosting had shut down 19:25 < fenn> and no, everyone doesn't compulsively archive anything 19:25 < fenn> they all so "oh it's in the cloud, google will take care of it" 19:25 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:25 < kanzure> well maybe those people deserve to be wrong 19:26 < fenn> also most people don't know how to search archive.org for database dumps 19:26 < fenn> hey it would be great if when people's shit disappeared they learned their lesson, but usually it's someone else who has the difficulty with the thing having been disappeared 19:27 < kanzure> maybe the nsa has a copy 19:27 < fenn> like, "hey i can't download this code to do the thing i'm trying to do" but there's no way to contact the author and no other copies online 19:27 < fenn> git should have solved this since every chunk is uniquely hashed and it should all just go into a big pile of hashes like freenet 19:28 < fenn> but that hasn't happened for some reason 19:28 < fenn> like, why can i download a random movie by googling its hash, but i can't download a random commit by its hash? 19:28 < kanzure> because nobody exposes .git directories 19:29 < kanzure> also, google indexes git commits when http servers render those commits 19:29 < fenn> even if they had been exposed nobody would be mirroring them in an accessible way 19:29 < fenn> you can't git-clone a google cache result :( 19:30 < fenn> this is such a stupid problem 19:30 < fenn> you can store all code ever written on a single hard drive 19:31 < kanzure> facebook has 50 gigabytes of source code not including history 19:31 < fenn> whatever 19:31 < kanzure> don't underestimate a million monkeys on a million and one typewriters 19:31 < fenn> .wa 50 gigabytes / 6 terabytes 19:31 < yoleaux> (50 GB (gigabytes))/(6 TB (terabytes)): 0.008333 19:32 < fenn> also i am really skeptical of that figure 19:45 < kanzure> hmph 19:57 < kanzure> hmmppph 19:58 < fenn> .g ievan polka 19:58 < yoleaux> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ievan_Polkka 20:09 < fenn> ha finally someone mentioned repo.or.cz 20:10 < fenn> orthodoxy to the rescue! 20:13 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:17 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@58.182.38.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:17 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@58.182.38.58] has quit [Changing host] 20:17 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:31 < kanzure> why does ralph merkle always look like he's stuck in 1968? 20:34 < eudoxia> not reaaally 20:34 < eudoxia> there's a picture of him in front of a computer when he looks kinda not 1968 20:55 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-48-26-82.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:28 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:49 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-166-59-66.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-144-212-208.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:56 -!- nmz787_ii [86868b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.134.139.77] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:56 < nmz787_ii> http://www.scs.illinois.edu/burke/index.php?p=research1 21:56 < nmz787_ii> .title 21:56 < yoleaux> The Burke Laboratories >> research 21:57 < nmz787_ii> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6227/1221 21:57 < nmz787_ii> .title 21:57 < nmz787_ii> Synthesis of many different types of organic small molecules using one automated process 21:57 < yoleaux> nmz787_ii: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. 21:57 < nmz787_ii> uses MIDA boronate handles 21:58 < nmz787_ii> all 'That study employed a synthesis platform analogous to iterative peptide coupling that sequentially assembles bifunctional N-methyliminodiacetic acid (MIDA) boronates (Fig. 1B) (14). Iterative cycles of coupling and deprotection are enabled by the MIDA ligand, which attenuates the reactivity of boronic acids and thus prevents undesired oligomerization.' 21:59 < kanzure> "it's almost like chemical synthesizers never existed" 22:02 -!- nmz787_ii [86868b4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.134.139.77] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:16 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:17 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 22:19 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21 -!- Burn_ [~Burn@pool-173-66-5-164.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:25 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:41 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-71-241-254-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:01 < delinquentme> "Burke says the hard part was figuring out the new cleanup method that happens after each chemical reaction" 23:01 < delinquentme> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a14528/the-chemistry-3d-printer-can-craft-rare-medicinal-molecules-from-scratch/ 23:10 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:59 < fenn> 1D printer --- Log closed Fri Mar 13 00:00:10 2015