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01:25 < archels> http://www.evolvedmachines.com/
01:25 < archels> these guys have some really pretty videos on their site, but not apparently much other information
01:25 < archels> also their last news post is from March 2010
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08:00 < kanzure> you guys are boring
08:00 < kanzure> you even bored jgarzik out of the channel
08:00 < kanzure> great, now who the hell is going to launch satellites for us?
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08:30 < QuadIngi> I'm sorry for not being extremely interesting Kanzure, I thought people should make progress out of their own merit, not by being helped into it
08:30 < QuadIngi> (ok that was rather sarcastic)
08:30 < kanzure> go on?
08:30 < QuadIngi> I'm busy with things
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10:05 < kanzure> soviet moon lander http://imgur.com/y92n1y0
10:06 < kanzure> whoops i mean http://imgur.com/a/m9rYB
10:07 < kanzure> here have an art http://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWastelands/top/?sort=top&t=all
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11:12 < delinquentme> kanzure how do: type faster
11:12 < delinquentme> shoudl I keep my fingers closer to the keys?
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11:28 < delinquentme> favorite diff tool?
11:32 < kanzure> my fast typing technique was deveoped back when i was doing 40-50 separate chat conversations at the same time
11:32 < kanzure> *developed
11:32 < kanzure> so... find a lot of really bored people.
11:32 < kanzure> also it helps if they are not aware of your other conversations
11:33 < kanzure> lots of people just assume that you can only have 2 or 3 conversations at the same time
11:36 < delinquentme> im assuming your error rate is pretty low?
11:36 < delinquentme> do you have metrics on this?
11:36 < kanzure> recently my error rate has been higher because my key are falling off (new keyboard is in the mail...)
11:36 < kanzure> *keys
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11:37 < kanzure> a long time ago i was going to track all of my typing stats
11:37 < kanzure> but then i realized i was about to install a keylogger, and i proceeded to rethink my life
11:38 < delinquentme> hahahahahaha
11:39 < kanzure> hey man at least girls are all over this http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/19pa2g/girls_what_kind_of_situations_made_you_get/c8qawhq
11:39 < delinquentme> HAHAH
11:39 < delinquentme> Yeah dude I could totally see that being arousing
11:40 < delinquentme> I think its sick just in we're talking such a MASSIVE bandwidth coupling between human / machine
11:40 < delinquentme> kanzure we're SO fucking privlieged man.
11:40 < delinquentme> we wield the fucking black magic of tech
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12:05 < kanzure> delinquentme: i can't reply to https://www.facebook.com/clinton.mielke.5/posts/1574766589444559?comment_id=1574784886109396
12:06 < kanzure> his loss i guess
12:07 < delinquentme> "Holy shit! What am I going to do with these 29,000 PDF documents? ... unsure emoticon
12:07 < delinquentme> Anyone do fulltext indexing before? I used Xapian back in the day to build my own private search cloud, but that was in 2006 and now we've got lucene and solr and sphinx getting a lot of attention. What do people like? Driven from a python interface is strongly desired."
12:09 < kanzure> no, i mean i literally cannot reply because he's blocked replies from me or something
12:09 < delinquentme> do you know him?
12:10 < delinquentme> hes probs got his profile locked down bc he enjoys going emo about women
12:10 < delinquentme> ~30% of his emotional expenditure
12:10 < kanzure> don't know him, but i see that matt goodman has replied
12:10 < kanzure> ah he sounds whiny
12:10 < delinquentme> matt goodman......
12:10 < kanzure> matt goodman from 3scan and langton labs
12:10 < delinquentme> I think i was supposed to move keith causeys stuff with him
12:11 < delinquentme> yeap! cool know the guy
12:11 < kanzure> also dan kaminsky
12:11 < delinquentme> know ish.
12:11 < delinquentme> what does goodman specialize in?
12:12 < kanzure> http://craneium.net/
12:12 < delinquentme> and yeah cosmo can be whiny sometimes =/
12:13 < delinquentme> hes smart and pretyt motivated but idk thats a pretty rough character flaw imo =/
12:13 < kanzure> matt should have joined this channel years ago but he never does
12:14 < kanzure> bunch of people are just farts like that
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12:17 < kanzure> stuff cameron ruggles is up to https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php https://bitwasp.co/
12:19 < delinquentme> ^ noots blog?
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13:16 < delinquentme> kanzure
13:17 < delinquentme> your opinion on large prop guns
13:17 < delinquentme> I was just thinking I'd love to have some gratuitous weaponry hanging on my walls ... like some sniper rifle from halo or some shit.
13:19 < kanzure> like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Robot-Robotic-Celtic-Bronze-Skull-Sculpture-Techno-Head-/271657765536?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f40108aa0
13:20 < chris_99> heh that does look pretty cool actually heh
13:20 < yoleaux> 03:40Z <nmz787> chris_99: you need something like a kinematic mount, or mirror mount... this one has 3 adjusters, there are also 2-adjuster types https://www.thorlabs.com/images/TabImages/Differential_Adjuster_Mount_A1-780.jpg
13:20 < chris_99> oh cheers nmz787
13:25 < FourFire> "<kanzure> lots of people just assume that you can only have 2 or 3 conversations at the same time" Yeah, normal people
13:25 < FourFire> of which most are
13:30 < delinquentme> kanzure motivation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0MDY9fl-IA
13:30 < delinquentme> idk if nutso japanese kids w expensive cars do anything for you
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13:33 < cluckj> oh boy my poor internet can't handle the 4k :<
13:33 < carissa> ddNTPs vs dNTPs **
13:34 < carissa> Concerning PCRs, when do you use dNTPs vs ddNTPs? My understanding of it was you would use both during the elongation process but not sure this is correct
13:35 < kanzure> carissa: i really haven't seen ddNTPs used except in dna sequencing
13:35 < cluckj> I don't think you want to use ddntp in PCR
13:36 < cluckj> they will break polymerases
13:39 < kanzure> .wik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanger_sequencing
13:39 < yoleaux> "Sanger sequencing is a method of DNA sequencing based on the selective incorporation of chain-terminating dideoxynucleotides by DNA polymerase during in vitro DNA replication. Developed by Frederick Sanger and colleagues in 1977, it was the most widely used sequencing method for approximately 25 years." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanger_sequencing
13:39 < kanzure> "The classical chain-termination method requires a single-stranded DNA template, a DNA primer, a DNA polymerase, normal deoxynucleotidetriphosphates (dNTPs), and modified di-deoxynucleotidetriphosphates (ddNTPs), the latter of which terminate DNA strand elongation. These chain-terminating nucleotides lack a 3'-OH group required for the formation of a phosphodiester bond between two nucleotides, causing DNA polymerase to cease extension ...
13:39 < kanzure> ... of DNA when a modified ddNTP is incorporated. The ddNTPs may be radioactively or fluorescently labeled for detection in automated sequencing machines."
13:40 < cluckj> sanger sequencing would be cooler if margaret sanger invented it
13:40 < kanzure> "The DNA sample is divided into four separate sequencing reactions, containing all four of the standard deoxynucleotides (dATP, dGTP, dCTP and dTTP) and the DNA polymerase. To each reaction is added only one of the four dideoxynucleotides (ddATP, ddGTP, ddCTP, or ddTTP), while three other nucleotides are ordinary ones. Putting it in a more sensible order, four separate reactions are needed in this process to test all four ddNTPs. ...
13:40 < kanzure> ... Following rounds of template DNA extension from the bound primer, the resulting DNA fragments are heat denatured and separated by size using gel electrophoresis."
13:40 < kanzure> anyway.... dNTPs. you want dNTPs.
13:41 < carissa> Cool, dNTPs it is.
13:41 < cluckj> ^
13:47 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/239/3/5/the_astronaut_by_devin_francisco-d6k0vk4.jpg
13:48 < kanzure> hah what http://i.imgur.com/LUzuxmr.jpg
13:49 < delinquentme> I dig that jawline / toothing of that dead space man
13:50 < kanzure> feng zhu seems to draw some okay things
13:51 < kanzure> this is what waking up in the morning is like http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0YuAnvDxJso/S6va1aj2LwI/AAAAAAAAABg/j55H4zRANeg/s1600/Untitled_Fin_NK.jpg
13:52 < kanzure> suffers from naval fleet syndrome but otherwise ok http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/234/0/6/chaos_reigns_by_columbussage-d47izzn.png
13:52 < kanzure> http://lightfarmstudios.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/5815_LFS_Astronaut_MainImage1_2000px1.jpg
13:54 < kanzure> http://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryStarscapes
13:55 < kanzure> http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/265/c/4/c412ab4a60d0159751940ab675e8bd51-d6nd56d.jpg
13:56 < cluckj> the baby likes all of those
14:01 < kanzure> good kid, shame we're going to have to cook it
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14:05 < kanzure> http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/066/e/1/meet_the_agent_by_nkabuto-d5x987t.jpg
14:07 < kanzure> "why does your city have lightning bolts going everywhere?" http://shue13.deviantart.com/art/Down-Town-368817049
14:08 < kanzure> http://shue13.deviantart.com/art/Welcome-To-Karrora-City-477792549
14:09 < kanzure> workstation http://i.imgur.com/yoM0284.jpg
14:11 < kanzure> http://www.leewiart.com/userfiles/6214/87e67dd5bcae4882895a921a2abdb752.jpg?635414490684628750
14:11 < kanzure> http://static.tumblr.com/p4xqot8/NkWlnwkpq/portfolio_slug_by_fealasy-d3fq3d2.jpg
14:12 < streety> those consoles look too far away to reach comfortably
14:15 < kanzure> http://nkabuto.deviantart.com/art/Hacking-the-Wolfgang-Corp-358189474
14:16 < kanzure> hmm
14:16 < kanzure> yes
14:18 < kanzure> in the future everyone will be mistaken for daft punk http://nathantwist.deviantart.com/art/Cyberpunk-20somethin-358384388
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14:19 < kanzure> http://www.johnliberto.com/pix/mech_final.jpg
14:20 < kanzure> http://dxthpu4318olx.cloudfront.net/assets/images/images/000/036/382/large/Mecha-collab.jpg?1394170879
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14:21 < kanzure> https://cdn.artstation.rocks/p/assets/images/images/000/326/701/large/jakub-rozalski-1920-most1-small.jpg?1417308825
14:23 < kanzure> http://josearias.deviantart.com/art/The-age-of-Giants-433329845?q=favby%3Alordjimbob01%2F57339135&qo=405
14:24 < kanzure> ehh i think big dog is more likely to work http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vijbDXOJEsU/UheLH0MIvRI/AAAAAAAADcE/5u3-28DCHNY/s1600/GOR_render_02b.jpg
14:25 < kanzure> legs are overrated http://resh1.deviantart.com/art/a-mech-424824687
14:28 < kanzure> i'm starting to regret looking at the robots section
14:30 < kanzure> apparently marcin jakubowski does some art http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptships/2012/balloontree/balloontree_06.jpg
14:31 < kanzure> "dieselpunk" http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/wp-content/files_mf/1293571092_magicfields_gallery_image_4_1.jpg
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14:35 < kanzure> boba fett http://cgimg.s3.amazonaws.com/p/g08/241208/241208_1156346728_orig.jpg http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/boba-fett--star-wars-the-card-game-ryan-barger.jpg
14:35 < kanzure> https://cdn.artstation.rocks/p/assets/images/images/000/409/448/large/darek-zabrocki-xwings-destroyed7.jpg?1421355272
14:36 < kanzure> sith propaganda http://www.vandersteltstudio.com/images/starwars/vader_cel2europe.jpg
14:39 < kanzure> more sith propaganda http://daroz.deviantart.com/art/Imperial-March-452076544
14:42 < kanzure> sarlaac escape http://livioramondelli.deviantart.com/art/Boba-Fett-Sarlaac-Escape-225476674
14:42 < kanzure> some hangar http://alexson1.deviantart.com/art/Star-Wars-hangar-452050742
14:46 < kanzure> http://der-reiko.deviantart.com/art/Spider-shroom-469868222
14:47 < kanzure> http://lordnetsua.deviantart.com/art/RED-WHIP-THRESHER-494220840
14:49 < kanzure> i got stuck doing this once http://i.imgur.com/2FM0qcO.jpg
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14:58 < kanzure> oh right that's the same image
14:58 < kanzure> and even the same link
15:05 < maaku> that last image is f'ing awesome
15:05 < maaku> i want to climb that mountain
15:06 < chris_99> haha
15:40 < kanzure> large hadron collider dashboard http://op-webtools.web.cern.ch/op-webtools/vistar/vistars.php
15:40 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9323542
15:42 < kanzure> "Most adult men can reach a 400 pound deadlift in less than 2-3 years of lifting (that's <5h/week)." huh. okay.
15:46 < delinquentme> kanzure . python: passing around exceptions intra-method ... bad practice?
15:47 < kanzure> raising an exception and then catching the exception is acceptable
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16:18 < kanzure> "As the chief goes on to observe in his report, the Supreme Court was unimpressed. It waited almost 40 years, until 1931, to even propose installing pneumatic tubes at the high court for the benefit of the press. The “hand down” protocol, put into practice in 1935, allowed journalists sitting in the courtroom when decisions were announced to dispatch copies of those opinions, pneumatically, to their colleagues downstairs in the ...
16:18 < kanzure> ... pressroom. And somewhere that year, George Jetson would earn his jetpack-wings, if George Jetson had been invented yet. Roberts’ whimsical foray into communications history ends with the observation that the court was both late to the magic of pneumatic time travel and also wedded to it for decades after it had become obsolete, quoting John P. MacKenzie, the Supreme Court reporter for the Washington Post, in 1968 describing the ...
16:18 < kanzure> ... court’s process of transmitting decisions as “perhaps the most primitive ... in the entire communications industry.” Three years later, Chief Justice Warren Burger ordered the pneumatic tube system dismantled."
16:19 < kanzure> http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/year-end/2014year-endreport.pdf
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17:04 < heath> http://kivy.org
17:04 < heath> .title
17:04 < yoleaux> Kivy: Cross-platform Python Framework for NUI Development
17:07 < kanzure> meh
17:07 < kanzure> i've used kivy in the past, was not particularly impressed
17:08 < kanzure> heath: there's really no way around developing apps for multiple platforms. and you shoud just do that; the performance is better, the results are better, it's not too hard to maintain, and it forces you to have realistic timelines and software development lifecycles.
17:08 < kanzure> *should
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17:17 < heath> kivy looks neat because it's python, that is all
17:17 < heath> right now i'm using ionic
17:17 < heath> in about a year i'll use react native, whenever they support android
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17:18 < kryptonic56> anyone in here tried addium as a nootropic?
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17:24 < kanzure> .g site:longecity.org addium
17:24 < yoleaux> http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/77523-whats-in-a-mattress-comfort-layer/?k=880ea6a14ea49e853634fbdc5015a024&settingNewSkin=31
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17:27 < kryptonic56> :/ not able to view it without becoming a member
17:33 < kanzure> .g site:reddit.com/r/nootropics addium
17:33 < yoleaux> http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/wiki/faq
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17:38 < kryptonic56> thank you kanzure
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19:17 < fenn> the fact that addium doesn't list the quantities of each ingredient means it's almost certainly bullshit. however the ingredients it contains are ok and helpful (caffeine, gaba, bacopa, alpha-GPC, theanine, phosphatidylserine, tyrosine, vinpocetine, huperzine, niacin, pyridoxine)
19:17 < fenn> basically you are paying for marketing and the privilege of being ignorant
19:18 < fenn> who am i talking to...
19:19 < cluckj> the aether
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19:25 < kanzure> this guy is busy thinking, "oh shit why is my civilization so stupid, we have the worst architects" http://shue13.deviantart.com/art/Les-11emes-Rencontres-de-L-Imaginaire-492352059
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19:42 < kanzure> cute advertisement (whiskey + ice cube milling) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAAnyUjiNGs
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21:19 < kanzure> various fermi drake equation filter stuff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9324566
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21:41 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673682909217
21:41 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20CONCORDANCE%20OF%20X-LINKED%20GLYCEROL%20KINASE%20DEFICIENCY%20WITH%20X-LINKED%20CONGENITAL%20ADRENAL%20HYPOPLASIA%0A%20.txt
21:42 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(82)90921-7/fulltext
21:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ef4466ff527c46c576dff986f291a5a7.txt
21:43 < n_bentha> :(
21:43 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0022-3476(86)80980-5
21:44 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5b380376904ea29bb90245df2a21e55a.txt
21:52 < kanzure> try2fix https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
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22:29 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://jcn.sagepub.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=20110216
22:29 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/25/10/1269.full.pdf
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22:33 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20Diagnostic%20Difficulties%20of%20Complex%20Glycerol%20Kinase%20Deficiency.pdf
22:34 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c295751de68c1c2c58bfd83003b4c7fb.pdf
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23:15 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.karger.com/?DOI=18077.pdf
23:16 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9017e01b515acfbfc9e1ffe2d216796b.txt
23:17 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.karger.com/?DOI=18077
23:18 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fcdbf9f2b3287710426e1802b5996b8e.txt
23:20 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/18077
23:20 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/18077.pdf
23:21 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5170cd7bfd528b700ebd4ebf03c9d4ab.txt
23:21 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/944e9d58d0465eabdfe08ff9fba59b96.txt
23:22 < n_bentha> paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/51098491_Glycerol_kinase_deficiency_in_adult_hypoglycemic_acidemia
23:22 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a49a1afd9dd3a4466d270d27a86f1211.txt
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23:28 < nmz787> reworked my rs232 sniffer and screwed around debugging for a few hours before realizing that I had some ENABLE or ON type pins not turned on :O    http://imgur.com/ZxrTJ5V
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