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00:53 < nmz787_i> if this would only get easier to do and figure out pinouts faster/semi-automatically https://hackaday.io/project/4177-lvds-laptop-display-interfacing
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06:59 < ParahSailin> apparently one can get through a CS program in uni without learning touch type
06:59 < ParahSailin> and IIT
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07:05 < kanzure> hehe
07:06 < ParahSailin> ... just when im feeling like an imposter
07:10 < kanzure> you feel like an imposter?
07:11 < kanzure> i will keep this in mind when i am browbeating you in the near future
07:11 < ParahSailin> not really
07:12 < kanzure> you can also sometimes get through comp sci without programming
07:12 < ParahSailin> well presumably getting through without learning to type is a fortiori can't program
07:13 < ParahSailin> unless you are the guy with the ij in his name
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08:21 < kanzure> https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/cell-line-infections-or-my-dog-has-no-bones/
08:27 < kanzure> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/10/nasa-posts-huge-library-space-sounds-youre-free-use/
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09:19 < ParahSailin> what --target does one use for android-32 jni so's
09:19 < ParahSailin> in objdump for instance
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09:32 < kanzure> armv8a?
09:34 < ParahSailin> whatever it is, apparently gnu binutils doesnt carry it
09:35 < kanzure> and here i thought you were above making fart apps
09:38 < ParahSailin> fart app?
10:07 < kanzure> just guessing
10:07 < chris_99> Did someone here make an x,y,z stage for a microscope, i thought i remember someone talking about one
10:08 < chris_99> *an automated one
10:11 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: I talked about it, basing it largely on the success of this http://openlabtools.eng.cam.ac.uk/Instruments/Microscope/
10:12 < chris_99> aha, i'm thinking of rigging up some steppers to my microscope, possibly just via bands, to see how it goes
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10:15 < nmz787_i1> yeah getting a motor hooked up stumped me when I last really thought of it about a year and a half ago (maybe 2 years)
10:15 < nmz787_i1> though i've been getting more comfortable with CAD and modelling and how to get thinks hooked up
10:15 < chris_99> i'm planning on trying to do some chip decapping/photographing
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10:16 < ParahSailin> these guys really put a lot of work into obfuscation
10:17 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: cool, I've been wanting to do that with the FIB... the guy who runs it said he'd show me how to do it... he uses boiling nitric acid
10:17 < nmz787_i1> or warm at least
10:17 < chris_99> yeah i think my dads got fuming nitric hopefully for it
10:18 < chris_99> i'd like to try some microprobing, i saw a nice webpage somewhere where they made a 200nm tipped needle
10:18 < chris_99> iirc
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11:05 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: do you have a link for the 200nm microprobes?
11:05 < nmz787_i1> were they cheap? conductive or just pipettes?
11:06 < chris_99> oh they made them, it was just a needle tip i mean
11:06 < chris_99> let me see if i can find it
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11:07 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: wait, have you thought to just use an CO2 NIR sensor?
11:08 < nmz787_i1> Even if it couldn't see the alcohol, it would be implied by CO2 levels right?
11:08 < nmz787_i1> something from these folks maybe? http://www.co2meter.com/collections/co2-sensors
11:08 < chris_99> yeah i've seen people doing that
11:08 < chris_99> but yeah i want actual alcohol
11:08 < chris_99> or SG
11:09 < nmz787_i1> mmm
11:09 < nmz787_i1> did you think about using a breathalyzer?
11:09 < chris_99> yes i spoke to a company
11:09 < chris_99> about that
11:09 < nmz787_i1> just put it past your airlock
11:09 < chris_99> you need a very small volume
11:09 < chris_99> and specific temps
11:10 < nmz787_i1> guess it depends on how volatile the alcohol is at fermentation temps
11:10 < nmz787_i1> volume doesn't seem like it would matter... concentration is what would matter it seems
11:10 < chris_99> breathalyzers are very sensitive
11:10 < chris_99> so volume of it is important
11:10 < chris_99> so you don't max out them
11:10 < chris_99> with too much alcohol
11:10 < nmz787_i1> ummm
11:10 < nmz787_i1> they are just fuel cells though
11:11 < chris_99> yeah but they're aimed at a specific sensitivity range i guess
11:11 < nmz787_i1> so if they waver, it would be because the gas isn't well mixed, i'd think, or temperature variations in the gas
11:11 < chris_99> that's what they mentioned anyhow
11:11 < nmz787_i1> hmm
11:11 < chris_99> about keeping the volume small
11:11 < nmz787_i1> so just use a smaller feed tube?
11:12 < chris_99> it's temp and volume they said to control very importantly
11:15 < chris_99> grrrr
11:16 < chris_99> i can't seem to find that needle
11:16 < chris_99> thing
11:16 < chris_99> i really want to see it as well
11:16 < chris_99> again
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11:26 < nmz787_i1> what's the engineering decision matrix table thing?
11:26 < nmz787_i1> with like pros and cons
11:26 < nmz787_i1> and points
11:27 < nmz787_i1> oh, i guess it's decision matrix method
11:27 < nmz787_i1> .wik decision matrix-method
11:27 < yoleaux> "Invented by Stuart Pugh the decision-matrix method, also Pugh method, Pugh Concept Selection is a quantitative technique used to rank the multi-dimensional options of an option set." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision-matrix_method
11:39 < chris_99> nmz787_i1, https://siliconpr0n.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:tutorial_on_etching_tungsten_probes :)
11:48 < kanzure> that guy was in here a while back
11:48 < kanzure> was azonenberg's roommate
11:49 < chris_99> ah :)
11:50 < thundara> 23:34:19 < Suyer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYh8R8H2_M
11:50 < thundara> Woops, ignore^^
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11:55 < chris_99> oh i got a message from that guy nmz787_i1 seems he'll only sell 5+
11:55 < chris_99> am waiting to see how much that would cost
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12:15 < kanzure> wireless communication and privacy http://www.paralelnipolis.cz/pp-congress-2014/WWPP.pdf
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12:53 < kanzure> cpopell7: greetings
12:53 < cpopell7> yo
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13:25 < justanotheruser> https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition
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13:41 < kanzure> "It's worse than for a million years: it's likely that no significant fossil fuel amounts will ever be formed again on earth. At some point the fungi evolved to eat the dead trees. So they can not become coal, oil or gas anymore.
13:43 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_invested
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15:16 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: so we just need to make sure to kill all the fungi?
15:16 < nmz787_i1> problem solved
15:17 < kanzure> agreed
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16:06 < nmz787_i> congrats nickjohnson! http://hackaday.com/2015/04/10/review-reload-pro/
16:06 < nmz787_i> that's at least two ppl who hang out in here in the last week or two ;)
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16:16 < Adlai> alternatively, others (mckenna) would have us learn the ways of the fungi, and become a civilization of decomposers rather than harvesters... and others yet would say that the former group are batshit crazy
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16:30  * andytoshi clears throat, waves his "vancouver mycology society 2012" card around
16:30 < andytoshi> who's saying bad things about fungi?
16:31 < kanzure> they're going to eat all the trees
16:31 < andytoshi> fungi are better than trees. that's a scientific fact
16:32 < andytoshi> where is that quote about fossil fuels from? i don't see it on the wiki page, that's really interesting..
16:32 < Adlai> all the *dead* trees
16:36 < kanzure> was from some random hacker news thread
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16:54 < maaku> I sometimes feel sad for all that fossil evidence being burnt away. Who knows what we could learn from the coal fields.
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17:04 < nmz787> Adlai: no that is also a valid answer, I guess the former is more "if humans can't have the planet, no species can can" attitude
17:05 < nmz787> jrayhawk: is there a psychological term for that attitude ^
17:06 < nmz787> .title http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17022349
17:06 < yoleaux> "If I can't have you, no one can": development of a Relational Entitlement and Proprietariness Scale (REPS). - PubMed - NCBI
17:06 < nmz787> s/partner/fungi/
17:16 < kanzure> render pages in terminal with colored text https://github.com/bevacqua/hit-that
17:16 < kanzure> maaku: what sort of fossil evidence are you thinking of?
17:18 < chris_99> nmz787, got a quote 200$/pc for 5pc minimum
17:18 < chris_99> and i got my sensors of that dude today :)
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17:56 < nmz787> ah
17:56 < nmz787> cool!
17:57 < nmz787> .tell chris_99: ah, cool! what are you gonna use to control the CCD?
17:57 < yoleaux> nmz787: What kind of a name is "chris_99:"?!
17:57 < nmz787> .tell chris_99 ah, cool! what are you gonna use to control the CCD?
17:57 < yoleaux> nmz787: I'll pass your message to chris_99.
17:58 < nmz787> .tell yoleaux what kind of name is yoleaux yo?
17:58 < yoleaux> nmz787: Thanks for the message.
17:58 < nmz787> hi yoleaux
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22:42 < fenn> hmm.. thinking about getting that jyetech $23 oscilloscope
22:43 < fenn> it has stupid mini-USB and 9V power though
22:45 < fenn> it's amazing how easy hobby electronics is becoming
22:45 < fenn> used to have to buy a surplus boat anchor if you wanted a cheap oscilloscope
22:49 < nickjohnson> nmz787_i: sweet!
23:01 < fenn> "I have noticed
23:01 < fenn> for a while that each successive book by Vernor Vinge is twice as
23:01 < fenn> well-written as the previous one.  In 2009, I expect him to win the Nobel
23:01 < fenn> Prize for Literature.
23:02 < JayDugger1> Heh.
23:02 < fenn> that other vingean singularity
23:08 < fenn> nmz787: most fish have a line of electric field sensors (capacitive sensors) along the side of their body
23:09 < fenn> it's not radio but it's pretty close
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