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06:58 < cpopell7> sup eudoxia
06:58 < eudoxia> hey cpopell, what's up
07:04 < cpopell7> werk
07:06 < eudoxia> are you still at that company you made that demo for
07:07 < cpopell7> yeah
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07:20 < eudoxia> so what have you been up to
07:27 < cpopell7> eh
07:27 < cpopell7> building demos and apps
07:27 < cpopell7> writing
07:27 < cpopell7> reading
07:27 < cpopell7> lifting :P
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07:30 < kanzure> waiting
07:35 < CaptHindsight> anyone know how they just target the retina? needle and syringe?  http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/uw-scientists-biotech-firm-may-have-cure-for-colorblindness/  http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090916/full/news.2009.921.html
07:36 < CaptHindsight> oh never mind
07:36 < CaptHindsight> adeno-associated virus
07:41 < kanzure> stop reading the news
07:41 < kanzure> also here's some other fun things
07:41 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Emergence%20of%20novel%20color%20vision%20in%20mice%20engineered%20to%20express%20a%20human%20cone%20photopigment.pdf
07:42 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Chlorophyll%20derivatives%20as%20visual%20pigments%20for%20super%20vision%20in%20the%20red.pdf
07:44 < CaptHindsight> what news? Did someone start reporting news again?
07:45 < kanzure> you linked to the news
07:45 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090916/full/news.2009.921.html
07:45 < kanzure> .title
07:45 < yoleaux> Colour blindness corrected by gene therapy : Nature News
07:45 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnews.2009.921
07:50 < CaptHindsight> the point was that it's early and I missed the sentence about the vector used (adeno-associated virus)
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08:23 < archels> visiting the Waag Society DIYbio lab tomorrow, does anyone want me to take pictures of their DropBot project?
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08:25 < kanzure> surewhynot
08:25 < chris_99> DropBot?
08:25 < archels> because people taking photos are usually mildly to severely obnoxious
08:26 < archels> http://microfluidics.utoronto.ca/dropbot/
08:27 < chris_99> ooh interesting
08:42 < CaptHindsight> archels: what DMF device are they using? I only noticed the controls, connector a software on the wiki
08:52 < CaptHindsight> http://microfluidics.utoronto.ca/dropbot/media/workshop_2014/presentations/DMF%20Overview.pdf  more info on the actual DMF here
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09:16 < CaptHindsight> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adma.201305168/abstract
09:17 < CaptHindsight> they link to 3 papers about inkjet printing the paper DMF's but I don't see where DropBot shows the users how to print them
09:18 < CaptHindsight> is there layout software and design info somewhere?
09:21 < CaptHindsight> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/dropbot-dev/AQjokDad-5w  here's an example dxf of a 90 channel device
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09:31 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adma.201305168/pdf
09:32 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/529c77ff6efbc4daf1c1ad258c2c801d.txt
09:32 < nmz787_i> brlcad has DXF converters I believe
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10:38 < nmz787_i> what's the word on http://www.tidesdk.org/
10:39 < kanzure> .title
10:39 < yoleaux> TideSDK | Create multi-platform desktop apps with HTML5, CSS3 and JavaScript
10:39 < kanzure> generally it is more productive to create native applications using native frameworks
10:40 < kanzure> for extremely simple applications you can sometimes get away with making web applications and single-page applications
10:40 < kanzure> however, there is quite often an enormous perfrmance penalty (for example, phonegap button clicks used to add 250ms to the user experience, which is widely considered to be completely unacceptable)
10:40 < kanzure> *performance
10:41 < kanzure> (note: button clicks in phonegap are probably faster these days. i haven't checked in a few years.)
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12:09 < kanzure> luke iseman is now a ycombinator partner
12:10 < kanzure> he used to be here in austin, i ran into him because of open source hardware reasons
12:11 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/apl/102/19/10.1063/1.4807118
12:12 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1063%2F1.4807118
12:12 < nmz787_i> .title http://microfluidics.utoronto.ca/dropbot/
12:12 < yoleaux> DropBot
12:12 < heath> "For many people, twenty years of experience is really one year of experience repeated twenty times"
12:13 < nmz787_i> CaptHindsight: know anything about influences the electric field puts on reactions/enzymes?
12:13 < nmz787_i> or cells
12:15 < chris_99> Does anyone have any opinion on these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271834586084?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=570665657937&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT to use to attach to the microscope x,y,z knobs
12:17 < nmz787_i> chris_99: do you think these would be powerful enough? 28BYJ-48     https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/blob/master/examples/output/motor_28BYJ_48__example.stl
12:18 < nmz787_i> chris_99: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5X-Stepper-Motor-28BYJ-48-ULN2003-Driver-Test-Module-Board-for-Arduino-/131410728499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e98b09633
12:19 < nmz787_i> i thought they would be great for the lithography stuff since they were so geared down
12:19 < chris_99> oh i did see those actually
12:19 < chris_99> recently
12:19 < chris_99> maybe they would be powerful enough
12:19 < nmz787_i> i have arduino code to control them and even microstep them
12:19 < nmz787_i> using the PWM circuitry and lookup tables for the sine wave vaues
12:20 < chris_99> neat
12:20 < chris_99> its a shame those boards it comes with, seem to be for 5V logic
12:21 < nmz787_i> just need a shifter
12:21 < nmz787_i> but you're not aiming for battery powered right ? :)
12:22 < chris_99> no heh
12:22 < chris_99> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281558127095?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT look pretty cool for the NEMA 14 one
12:25 < kanzure> falcon9 launch is today
12:26 < chris_99> oh yeah i was just linked to - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
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12:54 < nmz787_i> chris_99: also checkout easydriver
12:56 < chris_99> they seem expensive alas
12:56 < chris_99> the chinese one can handle more current  too
12:57 < nmz787_i> ah cool
13:00 < CaptHindsight> nmz787: back in the 80's we talked about that a lot since the concern by some was those newfangled microwave ovens
13:03 < chris_99> damn i can't use that one, as the min. voltage for the motor is 8.2V
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13:12 < CaptHindsight> nmz787: I'm not sure what studies have been done but think about how long polar molecules must change shapes or get twisted by strong fields or charges
13:22 < nmz787_i> chris_99: usually voltage on motors that are PWMed isn't really an issue... you can often overvoltage quite a ways from the labelled DC-voltage rating
13:22 < nmz787_i> PWMed/stepper-driven
13:32 < chris_99> ah, so you think maybe i could drive them @ 8.2, when it says 7.4
13:40 < nmz787_i> yeah, if they're steppers, it's common
13:41 < nmz787_i> you could prob drive at 15
13:44 < chris_99> cool
13:58 < CaptHindsight> the dropbot needs an imaging system for closed loop operation
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14:36 < kanzure> me defeating some bitcoin FUD from pocoo https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9370348
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14:40 < nmz787_i> FUD?
14:43 < kanzure> fear, uncertainty, doubt
15:12 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhnt1huVEc
15:12 < yoleaux> Cosmithex - Enigma (Original Mix) - YouTube
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16:05 < nmz787_i> .title https://hackaday.io/project/4689-improve-the-bosch-haber-process
16:05 < yoleaux> Improve the Bosch-Haber process • Hackaday.io
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16:13 < chris_99> using sonoluminescence apparently?
16:13 < chris_99> i bought some transducers to play with that
16:14 < chris_99> a while ago
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16:42 < chris_99> nmz787_i, did you ever get your laser cutter
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17:00 < nmz787_i> .tell chris_99 nope, they kept telling me they sent it and to wait, and then that they sent a second (and maybe a third) and eventually I had to dispute the sale and got my money back.... not sure how realistic their claims were or if it was just some ebay scam where I essentially loaned them $130 for a few months...
17:00 < yoleaux> nmz787_i: I'll pass your message to chris_99.
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19:24 < nmz787_i> sold out already: .title http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883800003&cm_re=intel_compute_stick-_-83-800-003-_-Product
19:24 < nmz787_i> .title
19:24 < yoleaux> Boxed Intel Compute Stick STCK1A8LLC, Single Pack (Linux) - Newegg.com
19:48 < kanzure> http://engineeringblog.yelp.com/2015/04/true-zero-downtime-haproxy-reloads.html
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