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quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:37 -!- haibane_rakka [~rakka@BYOD-NATout-129-174-182-90.byod.gmu.edu] has quit [Quit: haibane_rakka] 18:19 -!- fenn [~fenn@unaffiliated/fenn] has quit [Quit: brb] 18:32 -!- fenn [~fenn@unaffiliated/fenn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:41 < kanzure> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/gmaxwell_sfbitcoin_2015_04_20.pdf 19:45 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:41 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:50 -!- sheena2 [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:18 < fenn> "the number of people recommending something is inversely correlated with the rigorousness of its development - it's easier to offer lots of whiz-bang features if you don't care about being secure" 21:21 < fenn> i'm glad that he is dubious about the possibility of cryptography in general 21:22 < fenn> i've had the same thought myself, but i don't know nearly as much about cryptography as gmaxwell 21:27 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.39] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:30 < andytoshi> fenn: welll, P ≠ NP has a lot of evidence behind it 21:30 < andytoshi> it's certainly true that "can crypto exist?" is an extremely subtle question and its proof either way will be very difficult 21:31 < andytoshi> which probably has the same implications for its fragility and implementation difficulty as it being simply false 21:38 < fenn> cute 5 axis desktop CNC http://www.pocketnc.com/ 21:41 < fenn> "maker culture has shifted from a utopia where everyone could learn to make their own durable and useful objects instead of buying into mass-production, planned obsolescence and consumerism, to a bunch of people manufacturing mostly useless plastic trinkets." 21:45 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:54 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:03 < nmz787_i> hmm http://www.androidauthority.com/zenfone-2-multitasking-602509/ 22:03 < nmz787_i> .title 22:03 < yoleaux> Video: here’s what 4GB of RAM can do for your multitasking 22:03 < nmz787_i> .title https://youtu.be/dpBNVS_Ie7g 22:03 < yoleaux> ZenFone 2/4GB RAM - Multitasking Test (running intensive games) - YouTube 22:03 * nmz787_i wonders about more practical uses... but only seems to think that Android would be the main limitation 22:03 < nmz787_i> is that wrong to think? 22:09 < fenn> no, android sucks 22:12 < fenn> also, phones are a terrible UI in general 22:13 < fenn> so maybe if you had a phone with HDMI out and hooked it up to a monitor it would be OK 22:13 < fenn> still waiting for a decent head mounted display 22:15 < nmz787_i> no HDMI :( 22:15 < nmz787_i> micro USB 2.0 22:16 < nmz787_i> maybe WiDi? 22:17 < nmz787_i> but probably not... there's that other wireless video thing that I found my phone had 22:17 < nmz787_i> I can't remember its name though 22:18 < nmz787_i> I don't know if it's my phone or Android in general that lacks showing the TIME a call was placed or received or missed 22:18 < nmz787_i> it doesn't help 10 days later when I'm trying to remember what time it was when someone called and said it was too late to call back because someone else there would wake up due to the ringer 22:24 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:26 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 22:48 -!- Souljack [souljack@shell.xshellz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:54 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:54 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:55 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- Souljack [souljack@shell.xshellz.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:04 -!- AlkahestRain 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what kind? 23:43 < fenn> for example this is a pretty slick CNC gantry router i just found, selling for $1300 https://www.inventables.com/technologies/x-carve 23:45 < fenn> technologies allow you to do things, but the best technology allows you to improve technology better 23:45 < AngryKarma> this is tru.. 23:45 < AngryKarma> weapons of mass creation, rather than destruction 23:45 < fenn> so intelligence enhancement technologies are pretty high on the list 23:45 < fenn> followed by technology enhancement technologies 23:46 < fenn> and then just tools to do stuff 23:46 < fenn> like, everyone needs a house, but it isn't particularly "transhumanist" 23:46 < fenn> but a snail shell system, maybe that's transhumanist 23:47 < fenn> http://www.n55.dk/manuals/snail_shell_system/sss.html 23:48 < fenn> because it's adding to your "self" instead of being just a box of sticks sitting on the ground somewhere 23:48 < AngryKarma> its always good to know 23:49 < fenn> what brings you to this dank warren of conspirators? 23:49 < AngryKarma> i am a black sheep looking for my own kind 23:53 < fenn> why would anyone use grabcad instead of just github or just a file host... bleh 23:54 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-24-21-52-83.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-24-21-52-83.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:55 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:55 -!- AlkahestRain [~sudonym@71-219-132-54.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:57 -!- zadock [~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Apr 21 00:00:28 2015