--- Log opened Mon May 25 00:00:21 2015 00:06 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:06 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:12 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:24 < JayDugger> So as soon as humans have language they have stories? 00:24 < JayDugger> I suspect an elastic definition of "story." 00:26 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:47 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:12 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:25 < archels> one recent definition of intelligence I came across recently is the ability to reveal hidden affordances of the world 02:26 < archels> like the crow realizing it can use a twig to get at a nut 02:26 * archels 's intelligence appears to be at a local minimum presently 02:27 < sheena> archels: don't be too hard on yourself :P 02:28 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:28 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:28 < JayDugger> No where to go but up. 02:37 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:38 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@57-57-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:30 -!- jdolan_ [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:09 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhdqcszwoifqemlr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:55 < nsh> kanzure, have you used selenium for browser-driving? 04:55 < nsh> or does anyone have any idea how to deal with google account registration's annoying birth-month dropdox 05:00 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:01 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@57-57-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@57-57-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:36 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- jdolan_ [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:07 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhdqcszwoifqemlr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-129-175.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:58 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 < kanzure> nsh: 1) i have used selenium but i don't recommend it. try phantomjs. 2) use https://github.com/kanzure/googleplay-api 07:14 < kanzure> https://telescoper.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/how-loud-was-the-big-bang/ 07:15 < kanzure> "I think a better approach would be to consider how an animal would perceive human intelligence. We do incomprehensible or arbitrary things - generate some odd sounds, move stuff about, handle objects - and then big outcomes occur for often no obvious reason - food, images or rooms appear, other humans just do things as if they knew what we were thinking. Sometimes the point becomes somewhat clear far in retrospect, but most of the time ... 07:15 < kanzure> ... there is no discernible link. And of course, many of the things that humans worry or enthuse about are things the animals simply do not get - why would a human get sad over a piece of paper with scribbles on? So I would expect superintelligences to be like this. They do stuff, stuff happens, and sometimes we can see that some desire and goal seems to have been met. If they are human-derived we can sometimes see the similar drives, ... 07:15 < kanzure> ... but also totally alien interests and drives. In many ways they would be confusing and boring, except when they decide to play with us." 07:18 < kanzure> "live video rap competitions" http://rapt.fm/ 07:19 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9598918 07:19 < yoleaux> Show HN: Parse and output TODOs and FIXMEs from comments in your files | Hacker News 07:19 < chris_99> i saw that, but doesn't grep do that? 07:21 < kanzure> looks like it 07:23 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxnconnldcmqbcyy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:29 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@57-57-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:39 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:52 < archels> kanzure: was there a reason for that juxtaposition of superintelligence and live rap competition? =) 07:53 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:53 < kanzure> not a good reason, at least 07:53 < kanzure> the superintelligence thing was a quote from an email from anders sandberg that i was reading 07:53 < kanzure> the other was something else i was looking at 07:56 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 08:13 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:14 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:24 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@c-71-225-87-180.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:26 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@c-71-225-87-180.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0/20150511103946]] 08:30 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 08:59 < maaku> kanzure: that is such loose and imprecise reasoning it makes me sad :( 08:59 < yoleaux> 14 May 2015 00:50Z maaku: what was the name of that nasa software that did resource allocation and scheduling and stuff? 08:59 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@49-187-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 < maaku> kanzure: Europa was the one I used. http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/tech/asr/planning-and-scheduling/ 09:00 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:03 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 < kanzure> maaku: which reasoning? 09:14 < maaku> your sandberg quote 09:14 < kanzure> ah 09:15 < kanzure> sick of sidechain programming yet? 09:15 < kanzure> must be a mad rush over there 09:15 < maaku> i flamed out on lesswrong recently regarding that sort of bad thinking 09:16 < maaku> yeah we're in crunch mode, not sick of it yet though 09:17 < kanzure> maaku: http://i.imgur.com/bYuZwpt.jpg 09:17 < maaku> thanks :) 09:18 < kanzure> but really he should be asking for a forklift 09:18 < maaku> lol 09:21 < eudoxia> but he's holding the world up on his hands not on his back 09:21 < kanzure> this europa stuff is pretty nice 09:34 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: last repository kernel update for ubuntu 10.04 ever.] 09:41 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:44 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrm/podcasts/index.html 09:44 < yoleaux> Podcasts : Archive : Nature Reviews Molecular Cell Biology 09:44 < kanzure> oh even better, 09:44 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/archive.html 09:45 < kanzure> holy shit they even have transcripts THEY EVEN HAVE TRANSCRIPTS 09:46 < kanzure> er.. that was not supposed to be upcased. was supposed to be pasted link. 09:46 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/v517/n7535/nature-2015-01-22.html 09:47 < kanzure> oh... their science fiction podcasts don't have transcripts? >:( 09:58 -!- Adlai [~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 < kanzure> "Research at Haskin’s Laboratories in the 1960s showed that listeners forgot the beginning of a sentence before reaching its end when arbitrary acoustic signals were used in place of speech (Liberman et al., 1967)." 10:07 < pasky> oh awesome! i've finished the thinkingmachines podcast so far 10:08 < pasky> and most of radiolab and stuff 10:08 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@49-187-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:10 < JayDugger> IIRC, you can get a published collection of Nature's sci-fi shorts. 10:12 < JayDugger> Or a selection of them at http://www.concatenation.org/futuresindex.html 10:18 -!- CthulhuMermaid [~CthulhuMe@70-89-159-238-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d75-155-236-222.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Beatzebub] 10:48 -!- 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from neonatal and adult peripheral blood using single-factor OCT4 reprogramming. Unlike fibroblasts that share molecular hallmarks of neural crest, OCT4 reprogramming of blood was facilitated by SMAD+GSK-3 inhibition to overcome restrictions on neural fate conversion. Blood-derived (BD) iNPCs differentiate in vivo and respond to guided differentiation in vitro, producing glia ... 21:39 < kanzure> ... (astrocytes and oligodendrocytes) and multiple neuronal subtypes, including dopaminergic (CNS related) and nociceptive neurons (peripheral nervous system [PNS]). Furthermore, nociceptive neurons phenocopy chemotherapy-induced neurotoxicity in a system suitable for high-throughput drug screening. Our findings provide an easily accessible approach for generating human NPCs that harbor extensive developmental potential, enabling the ... 21:39 < kanzure> ... study of clinically relevant neural diseases directly from patient cohorts." 21:41 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:50 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:08 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:22 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-162-24-140.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-166-43-39.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:34 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@2601:3:8200:11a7:791b:8fb1:515f:6492] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:59 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@2601:3:8200:11a7:791b:8fb1:515f:6492] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:59 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue May 26 00:00:22 2015