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03:34 < streety> their second stretch goal is a little strange
03:34 < streety> I would not have mounted the wing where they do
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07:42 < wrldpc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluma_Zeigarnik#The_Zeigarnik_effect
07:42 < kanzure> .wik
07:42 < yoleaux> Search for an article on Wikipedia
07:43 < kanzure> .wik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluma_Zeigarnik#The_Zeigarnik_effect
07:43 < yoleaux> "Bluma Wulfovna Zeigarnik (Russian: Блю́ма Ву́льфовна Зейга́рник; 9 November 1901 – 24 February 1988) was a Soviet psychologist and psychiatrist, a member of Berlin School of experimental psychology and Vygotsky Circle. She discovered the Zeigarnik effect and contributed to the establishment of experimental psychopathology as a separate  …" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluma_Zeigarnik
07:43 < wrldpc> oic
07:43 < wrldpc> Thorsteinn died recently.  Protege of Bucky’s: http://032c.com/2007/model
07:44 < wrldpc> .title http://curbed.com/archives/2015/05/06/einar-thorstein-olafur-eliasson.php
07:44 < yoleaux> Architectural Mad Scientist Einar Thorsteinn Passes Away at 73 - Einar Thorsteinn - Curbed National
07:52 <@fenn> pentapodia as the key insight
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09:05 < sheena> i want to use my arduino uno to make a super simple noisy crappy ecg
09:05 < sheena> anyone have any ideas?
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09:25 < archels> lots of schematics out there, just google for it
09:25 < archels> and don't include "arduino" in your search terms
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09:32 < sheena> have looked at a few, all are complex and want amplifiers for better quality etc
09:44 < archels> if you want to be lazy and build a circuit that doesn't work, be my guest
09:44 < sheena> thanks ..
09:45 < archels> just sayin' it like it is
09:46 < archels> the amplifiers are there for a reason
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10:13 < archels> oh, also the usual warnings apply for anything that's going to be hooked up to a human body
10:14 < archels> probably most crucially, don't hook yourself up to anything that is hooked up to mains power
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11:18 < archels> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nnhUCtcO8
11:18 < archels> see also http://fusion.net/story/139703/self-parking-car-accident-no-pedestrian-detection/
11:18 < archels> "Meanwhile, the people in the video seem to ignore their instincts and trust that the car assumed to be endowed with artificial intelligence knows not to hurt them. It is a sign of our incredible faith in the power of technology, but also, it’s a reminder that companies making AI-assisted vehicles need to make safety features standard and communicate clearly when they aren’t."
11:26 < eudoxia> somebody fucked up
11:26 < eudoxia> but tbh i'm glad because i got a semi watching two journalists get run over by a car
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11:27 < eudoxia> thank you volvo
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11:53 < maaku> wtf
11:53 < maaku> aparantly someone got into a car, purposefully drove it at two other people, expecting the car to stop
11:53 < maaku> why would you even do that?
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11:54 < nmz787_i> howdy
11:55 < nmz787_i> http://www.brain-map.org/tutorials/index.html
11:55 < nmz787_i> .title
11:55 < yoleaux> Allen Brain Atlas - Tutorials
12:02 < archels> .t http://www.meetup.com/Dutch-DIY-Bio/events/222811153/?a=ea1_grp&rv=ea1
12:02 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, I don't know a timezone by that name.
12:02 < archels> .title
12:02 < yoleaux> Tuning the Brain - Transcranial Ultrasound (TUS) experiment - Dutch DIY Bio Group (Amsterdam) - Meetup
12:10 < kanzure> "Epigenetic regulation of the nuclear-coded GCAT and SHMT2 genes confers human age-associated mitochondrial respiration defects" http://www.nature.com/srep/2015/150522/srep10434/full/srep10434.html
12:13 < maaku> kanzure: resolve me this confusion, if you can: mutations and/or epigenetic regulation of mitochondrial dna causes some ageing related ill health. however mitochondria have been ticking away in eggs since the moment a girl is born. certainly there must be some process in the production of gametes that restores mitochondria?
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12:14 < kanzure> "Here, we show that reprogramming of elderly fibroblasts restores age-associated mitochondrial respiration defects, indicating that these aging phenotypes are reversible and are similar to differentiation phenotypes in that both are controlled by epigenetic regulation, not by mutations in either the nuclear or the mitochondrial genome. Microarray screening revealed that epigenetic downregulation of the nuclear-coded GCAT gene, which is ...
12:14 < kanzure> ... involved in glycine production in mitochondria, is partly responsible for these aging phenotypes. Treatment of elderly fibroblasts with glycine effectively prevented the expression of these aging phenotypes."
12:15 < kanzure> maaku: that question sounds like it could be asked for almost any organelle or cellular component
12:17 < kanzure> and, to be more specific, you are not born from a single gamete with all the organelles or other components that you will eventually grow
12:17 < kanzure> er, but having said that, yes gametes age
12:23 < nmz787_i> maaku: also some mutations or epigenetic modifications can be beneficial, to the organism or its future progeny
12:24 < nmz787_i> (the one 'classic' example of epigenetics is famine conditions in parents causing fat/diabetes/nutritional absorbtion/retainment related effects in the offspring)
12:24 < nmz787_i> (even after the famine went away in the parents, and before they had kids)
13:01 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGS1JlfRXdE
13:01 < yoleaux> Stergios - Katharsis (Andres W Remix) - YouTube
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14:25 < archels> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWoZg9ie80A
14:25 < yoleaux> Maluns - Afterburner Second Boost [Temporal Extent] - YouTube
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15:39 < pasky> slides of my (cursory) lightning talk today on distributed representations http://pasky.or.cz/pres/distrepr.pdf
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17:39 < kanzure> "It is curious to note that most simulations have demonstrated that agents always succeed in developing a working communication system (except for Levin, 1995; Noble, 1998; Grim et al., 1999; Wagner, 2000; Reggia et al., 2001). There is a clear need for careful studies of when communication will not emerge. This leads into a second criticism of work in the field: Most of the work that we have reviewed has suffered from a lack of ...
17:39 < kanzure> ... experimental controls (but see Levin, 1995; Noble, 1998; Baray, 1998; Grim et al., 1999; Wagner, 2000; Reggia et al., 2001). The use of controlled experiments would allow the discovery of specific factors responsible for the emergence of some communication system. For example, Wagner used agent and food density to demonstrate conditions under which communication would not be any more useful than remaining silent (Wagner, 2000)."
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17:40 < kanzure> from http://www.life.umd.edu/faculty/wilkinson/Wagneretal03.pdf
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19:16 < kanzure> .to delinquentme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzEyvg2rqf0
19:16 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to delinquentme.
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19:39 < redlegion> oh shit
19:39 < redlegion> i love nootropics
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19:50 < kanzure> hello redlegion
19:51 < kanzure> what brings you here
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20:59 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9614993
20:59 < yoleaux> Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes | Hacker News
20:59 < kanzure> neat. i wonder how many of those are university-connected.
21:02 < catern> kanzure speculates about the fun problem of getting connections within university networks
21:02 < catern> when he already has offers of server time inside university networks and actually needs to do the hard problem of figuring out how to use it
21:02 < catern> :D
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21:04 < kanzure> "Using communication is not the only cooperative strategy that can evolve when organisms need to solve a problem together. This article describes a model that extends MacLennan and Burghardt's [37] synthetic ethology simulation to show that using a spatial world in a simulation allows a wider range of strategies to evolve in response to environmental demands. The model specifically explores the interaction between population density and ...
21:04 < kanzure> ... resource abundance and their effect on the kinds of cooperative strategies that evolve. Signaling strategies evolve except when population density is high or resource abundance is low." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10953252
21:04  * kanzure sleep
21:04  * kanzure sleeps
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21:33 < nmz787_i> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qWmrp6GAs
21:33 < yoleaux> Carbon atoms moving at the edge of a hole in graphene - YouTube
21:35 < nmz787_i> found via http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2009/03/26/atoms-in-action/     , which was via    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Electron_Aberration-Corrected_Microscope     which was via      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-resolution_transmission_electron_microscopy
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