--- Log opened Mon Jun 29 00:00:55 2015 00:01 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1011:3f01:f88b:11cd:9da6:d276] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.247.250] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:04 -!- ant4t [~s3an@50.141.77.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:12 -!- Beatzebub_ [~beatzebub@d172-218-176-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:12 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d172-218-176-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:17 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:19 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@146-135-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:24 -!- knobuddy [~Warv@unaffiliated/knobuddy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:27 -!- ant4t [~s3an@50.141.78.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 00:33 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@33-5-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:37 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.40.154.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@33-5-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:40 -!- QuadIngi is now known as FourFire 00:42 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.40.154.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:07 -!- ant4t [~s3an@50.141.78.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:31 -!- Acty [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrqfvwdmnzqteurb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:44 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:45 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:48 -!- Acty [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mgwyqalbzgyikndn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:26 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.210.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:55 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bwkrsomwcnccpdrs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:16 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.210.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:49 -!- punsieve [~drandomtu@cpe-66-68-66-8.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:12 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llcvfwvzzcleqzew] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:23 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-127-242.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:42 -!- TheBlight [~TheBlight@gatekeeper.bbp.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:42 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v8/n7/abs/nrmicro2392.html 05:42 < yoleaux> Where microbiology meets microengineering: design and applications of reporter bacteria : Abstract : Nature Reviews Microbiology 05:42 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v8/n3/abs/nrmicro2262.html 05:42 < yoleaux> A complex journey: transmission of microbial symbionts : Abstract : Nature Reviews Microbiology 05:44 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v11/n2/abs/nrmicro2937.html 05:44 < yoleaux> Bacteriocins [mdash] a viable alternative to antibiotics? : Abstract : Nature Reviews Microbiology 05:45 < kanzure> "legumes punish nonperforming nitrogen-fixing bacteria" 05:45 < kanzure> .title http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2010.02114.x/full 05:45 < yoleaux> The evolution of mutualism - LEIGH Jr - 2010 - Journal of Evolutionary Biology - Wiley Online Library 05:45 < kanzure> .title http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2010.02084.x/full 05:45 < yoleaux> The danger of applying the breeder's equation in observational studies of natural populations - MORRISSEY - 2010 - Journal of Evolutionary Biology - Wiley Online Library 05:48 < kanzure> .title http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2010.01025.x/abstract 05:48 < yoleaux> EARLY BURSTS OF BODY SIZE AND SHAPE EVOLUTION ARE RARE IN COMPARATIVE DATA - Harmon - 2010 - Evolution - Wiley Online Library 05:49 < kanzure> .title http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2010.00959.x/abstract 05:49 < yoleaux> NOVEL COOPERATION EXPERIMENTALLY EVOLVED BETWEEN SPECIES - Harcombe - 2010 - Evolution - Wiley Online Library 05:50 < kanzure> .title http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2011.01444.x/abstract 05:50 < yoleaux> DIRECTIONAL SELECTION IN TEMPORALLY REPLICATED STUDIES IS REMARKABLY CONSISTENT - Morrissey - 2011 - Evolution - Wiley Online Library 05:53 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7313/abs/nature09342.html 05:53 < yoleaux> Epigenetic memory in induced pluripotent stem cells : Nature : Nature Publishing Group 05:53 < kanzure> "Here we observe that low-passage induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) derived by factor-based reprogramming of adult murine tissues harbour residual DNA methylation signatures characteristic of their somatic tissue of origin, which favours their differentiation along lineages related to the donor cell, while restricting alternative cell fates. Such an ‘epigenetic memory’ of the donor tissue could be reset by differentiation and ... 05:54 < kanzure> ... serial reprogramming, or by treatment of iPSCs with chromatin-modifying drugs. In contrast, the differentiation and methylation of nuclear-transfer-derived pluripotent stem cells were more similar to classical embryonic stem cells than were iPSCs. Our data indicate that nuclear transfer is more effective at establishing the ground state of pluripotency than factor-based reprogramming, which can leave an epigenetic memory of the ... 05:54 < kanzure> ... tissue of origin that may influence efforts at directed differentiation for applications in disease modelling or treatment." 05:54 -!- Beatzebub_ [~beatzebub@d172-218-176-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Beatzebub_] 06:11 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v12/n6/abs/nrmicro3262.html 06:11 < yoleaux> The microbial ecology of permafrost : Nature Reviews Microbiology : Nature Publishing Group 06:13 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v11/n2/abs/nrmicro2939.html 06:13 < yoleaux> Microbial life under extreme energy limitation : Abstract : Nature Reviews Microbiology 06:14 < kanzure> "A great number of the bacteria and archaea on Earth are found in subsurface environments in a physiological state that is poorly represented or explained by laboratory cultures. Microbial cells in these very stable and oligotrophic settings catabolize 10^4 to 10^6 -fold more slowly than model organisms in nutrient-rich cultures, turn over biomass on timescales of centuries to millennia rather than hours to days, and subsist with energy ... 06:14 < kanzure> ... fluxes that are 1,000-fold lower than the typical culture-based estimates of maintenance requirements. To reconcile this disparate state of being with our knowledge of microbial physiology will require a revised understanding of microbial energy requirements, including identifying the factors that comprise true basal maintenance and the adaptations that might serve to minimize these factors." 06:14 < kanzure> cool 06:24 < kanzure> "Other advances in sample collection have occurred outside of the conventional scientific ocean drilling programs that provide new opportunities for collecting deep biosphere samples. For example, revised giant piston coring devices for retrieval of longer (10 s of meters) sediment cores have been developed in both the USA (Røy et al., 2012) and France (Bourillet et al., 2007)." 06:31 -!- justanotherusr [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32 -!- justanotherusr [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:34 < ebowden> http://icb.oxfordjournals.org/content/42/2/369.full 06:35 < archels> .title 06:35 < yoleaux> Partner Choice in Nitrogen-Fixation Mutualisms of Legumes and Rhizobia 06:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:45 < ebowden> http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0093670 06:50 < ebowden> .title 06:50 < yoleaux> PLOS ONE: Evolutionary Dynamics of Nitrogen Fixation in the Legume–Rhizobia Symbiosis 06:53 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 -!- TheBlight 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death rays and kilometer-wide sattelite clouds 14:58 < chris_99> haha 14:58 < chris_99> how hard would it be, to make coloured rain i wonder 15:01 < kanzure> frant: also we need dna synthesis equipment 15:06 < frant> im talking about lowhanging fruit 15:06 < frant> cheap 15:06 < frant> to help accelerate the process 15:06 < frant> make things cheaper for you guys 15:06 < frant> ill be back tomorrow 15:06 -!- frant [~trygar@c-2ec305b4-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:13 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emjogppddcgnwxuj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19 -!- wrldpc1_ [~ben@228.22.150.119.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@133.131.169.216.client.dyn.strong-sf94.as22781.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:20 -!- wrldpc1_ is now known as wrldpc1 16:32 < kanzure> https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/ask-ethan-94-could-dark-matter-not-exist-de5cd810e446 16:43 -!- punsieve [~drandomtu@cpe-66-68-66-8.austin.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:56 < nmz787_i> kanzure: those coasters could only be cooler if it was real brains 16:57 < kanzure> we could probably do that 16:57 < kanzure> slice a brain, then fixate it, then laminate it or put it between two pieces of plastic 16:59 < nmz787_i> those microtome imaging startups could probably actually /make/ some $$$ with coasters like that versus real science 17:05 < kanzure> yeah might be an interesting way to fund their work... but can't put that up on crowdstarter because it's animal matter. 17:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined 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(dang I still didn't come up with a web-based grepper that isn't google) 17:21 < nmz787_i> this shows 6 hits 'site:gnusha.org/logs/ 2015-06 dna' 17:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-06-19.log 17:33 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-06-20.log 17:51 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hyrcjnytmveiymbr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:57 < nmz787_i> fenn: CaptHindsight immune cells modify their own DNA... look up VDJ recombination 17:57 < nmz787_i> .wik VDJ recombination 17:57 < yoleaux> "V(D)J recombination, less commonly known as somatic recombination, is the unique mechanism of genetic recombination that occurs only in developing lymphocytes during the early stages of T and B cell maturation." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDJ_recombination 18:15 < fenn> it's a very limited process 18:17 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20 -!- punsieve [~drandomtu@cpe-66-68-66-8.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:50 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:00 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 < kanzure> hmm 19:20 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wifykiautezlnszg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:27 < CaptHindsight> nmz787: I was wondering how machinery can be supplied by nature vs me 19:37 < kanzure> we should really get back to project "rob all the graves of all the dead smart people to extract their skeletal dna remains" 19:37 < kanzure> e.g. some roadtrip 19:46 -!- rkos [~rkos@228.ip-176-31-189.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9798374 20:22 < yoleaux> Could dark matter not exist? | Hacker News 20:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1011:3f01:50f7:988f:27ca:ea0b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:35 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:11 -!- Acty [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlizximcnklrudhi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:43 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:43 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d172-218-176-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 22:07 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 22:23 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:24 -!- xrr [~xrr@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hyrcjnytmveiymbr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:43 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- Acty [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ehpffhjdbmykqccb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- knobuddy [~Xial@unaffiliated/knobuddy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:24 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:38 -!- xrr_ [~quassel@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- xrr_ [~quassel@gprs-inet-183-94.elisa.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:54 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jun 30 00:00:56 2015