--- Log opened Wed Aug 26 00:00:52 2015
00:38 < delinquentme> catern, it is
00:38 < delinquentme> i've met the guy
00:38 < delinquentme> in my brief chat hes exactly the kind of dude who we should have as a transhumanist rep
00:39 < delinquentme> social presence + a particular grace ... willingness to listen
00:39 < delinquentme> yeah dude hed just make a really good politician and hes got kids
00:39 < delinquentme> people love that shit
00:41 < Adlai> https://media.lanecc.edu/users/borrowdalej/TW/TW.pdf "The Transhumanist Wager" by Zoltan Istvan
00:48 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-58-200.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:00 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:00 -!- seanph [~seanph@69.30.244.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:16 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exonyvlwghdpgrcj] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:10 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
02:25 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
02:38 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:41 -!- seanph [~seanph@69.30.244.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
02:49 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:00 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:05 -!- lelelelelelelele [63f53797@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.245.55.151] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:05 -!- lelelelelelelele [63f53797@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.245.55.151] has quit [Client Quit]
03:25 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n
03:28 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pkldmsuoaqdlrrls] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
03:48 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:48 -!- sandeep is now known as Guest52359
04:00 -!- Guest52359 [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:01 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:09 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
04:13 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
04:23 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:26 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@186.79-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:26 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:27 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@186.79-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
04:28 -!- c0rw1n_ is now known as c0rw1n
04:36 -!- xtalmath [~xtalmath@ip-83-134-139-204.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
04:37 -!- xtalmath [~xtalmath@ip-83-134-139-204.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-17-242.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:01 < kanzure> yes i pointed out how terrible the bus was like a year ago when it was on kickstarter but nobody knew how to stop him
05:05 < kanzure> mark karpeles blames everything on yu yu hakusho https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ifrse/iq_190_versus_japanese_police_mtgox_update_in/
05:08 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:37 < kanzure> thegeekgroup has 26570 members
05:39 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:45ad:3887:add6:34f4] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:39 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:45ad:3887:add6:34f4] has quit [Disconnected by services]
06:35 < kanzure> gross http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/08/resourceminer-toppling-the-tower-of-babel-in-the-lab.html
06:39 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:45ad:3887:add6:34f4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:42 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:42 -!- math3 [uid54897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwqgvrotdkpxsqrv] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:57 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:59 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
07:10 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:24 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:29 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-17-242.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:30 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-157-199.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:33 < kanzure> strange page. seems spammy? http://www.artofwellbeing.com/2015/08/04/integrative-guide-to-growing-younger/
07:33 < kanzure> ok definitely spammy.
07:36 < JayDugger> Not the reaction I expected for that link to radar.oreilly.com. "Gross" seems evocative and vague.
07:45 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
07:47 < kanzure> natural language processing stuff for science just hasn't been impressive or useful to me
07:48 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|awway
07:48 -!- c0rw|awway is now known as c0rw|away
08:10 < JayDugger> Ah. Got it. Thanks.
08:19 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:05 < xtalmath> suppose I have a flexible plastic sheet, like an overhead transparency. I want to cut out shapes with slits and features so it can be bent and attached to itself. what would be the best software to model the resulting rest state under different static loads? loads like pulling 2 strips outwards? I effectively need to model a 2d membrane in 3d...
09:07 < xtalmath> or would it be easier to take any 3d fem modeler, and treat the 2d sheet as what it really is, with a specific thickness?
09:25 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:29 -!- rigel_ [~yourmom@c-24-21-55-24.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:29 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:32 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:53 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
10:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:01 < kanzure> "Via indiegogo, 22k$ were obtained for the "I'm a little mouse" campaign; it has lead a i) a team in Ukraine to perform lifespan tests in mice that when combining drugs. In particular aspirin+metformin+everolimus with lower doses than the ones reported to extend lifespan without combination"
11:01 < kanzure> "ii) a current testing of C60 in mice similarly to what Baati et al in rats. Result may be expected within a year. With that amount of funding those are first results (eg it is not using heterogeneous mouse models)."
11:01 < kanzure> "Via longeCity, similar amounts were raised to help attempt a mitochondrial gene therapy with SENS, reduce toxicity of cryopreservants with JP de Magalhaes, microglia transplant in brains of aged rats in Singapore, study the effect of C60 on cancer growth in nude mice, and a few other projects (perhaps someone will help)."
11:01 < kanzure> http://longevityalliance.org/Projects/MajorMouseTestingProgram
11:01 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tymvxftndeuphlkg] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:10 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:30 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exonyvlwghdpgrcj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
11:52 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-58-200.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:57 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:57 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
12:07 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xiefjgtyllzoahdj] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:10 -!- tallakahath [~tallakaha@dhcp-179-37.materials.ucsb.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:12 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:19 -!- lastfuture [~Peter@HSI-KBW-46-223-1-121.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-157-199.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:33 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:48 < kanzure> "upower will be able to use thorium"
12:48 < dingo> anyone do a whole lot with topology programming?
12:48 < kanzure> from a thread about bussard's electrostatic confinement fusion stuff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10123626
12:48 < gradstudentbot> Wow, I'm definitely not including this data in the paper.
12:48 < dingo> it seems the general format is more or less like a 0-255 bmp scale image, of a given linear black and white value, and whatever the coordinate system is
12:49 < dingo> anyone ever write code to break that into tesselations?
12:49 < dingo> or provide general advice with topology data
12:51 < kanzure> yeah i have done tessellation stuff. for cad reasons.
12:51 < kanzure> your problems will probably be solved by meshlab
13:01 < archels> xtalmath: I guess you could do it as a pure 2D structure, but thinking doing it in 3D might get you to results more rapidly
13:05 < xtalmath> archels: I think you are right, will 3d FEM solvers also handle "hooking" (i.e. a 2D tab, pulled through a slit, a bit like a "button through a loop")? I think I will have to model that as some kind of constraint though...
13:07 < archels> well yeah, that's a collision constraint
13:07 < xtalmath> archels: any specific fem solver you prefer or recommend?
13:07 < archels> Bleder + Bullet might be an option here, but Bullet FEM support is still experimental, so the solution might be a bit ad-hoc/nonphysical
13:08 < archels> if it works at all
13:08 < archels> please do let me know what you end up using, I'd be interested to know
13:10 < xtalmath> Hmm, Im thinking more elmer, or perhaps some python FEM solver
13:24 < kanzure> openfoam has fem solver stuff
13:24 < kanzure> or salome (from the opencascade people)
13:24 < kanzure> the opencascade people also have topology/mesh things, which dingo might look at if meshlab sucks too much
13:26 < dingo> ok, awesome
13:26 < dingo> thanks, yes, its cad-directed, so it works fine
13:27 < dingo> but yeah most solvers are seperated
13:28 < dingo> model setup, analysis/kernel, and output result examiner stages
13:28 < dingo> in fact elmer looks like it has the *exact* same stages i used to program for on abacus/cae
13:29 < gradstudentbot> Where are the thermometers?
13:34 < archels> gradstudentbot: the computational modelling people hid them as a prank
13:34 < gradstudentbot> Did you see that hack?
13:34 < archels> gradstudentbot: perpetrated it, even
13:34 < gradstudentbot> My matlab crashed.
13:36 < archels> hoisted by my own petard
13:43 -!- kish [~oracle@unaffiliated/oracle] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
13:50 -!- kish [~oracle@unaffiliated/oracle] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:06 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xiefjgtyllzoahdj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
14:16 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:48 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
14:50 -!- ryankarason [~rak@opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:53 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
15:09 -!- ryankarason [~rak@opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:28 -!- c0rw|away is now known as c0rw1n
15:29 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:30 -!- drethelin [drethelin@71-87-115-157.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
15:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:39 -!- maaku_ is now known as maaku
15:50 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:54 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:57 -!- xtalmath [~xtalmath@ip-83-134-139-204.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:01 -!- lastfuture [~Peter@HSI-KBW-46-223-1-121.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Bye bye baby]
16:13 -!- xtalmath [~xtalmath@ip-83-134-139-123.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:13 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
16:20 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:21 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:35 < xtalmath> kanzure: yes thanks
16:36 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:37 < xtalmath> who maintains EAN database? theres some companies reselling this information, and there are non-exhaustive incomplete databases.
16:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
16:38 < xtalmath> the reason I think there is a central authority, is because how do I as a manufacturer know the number I make up won't collide with anothers EAN code?
16:38 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168
16:40 < xtalmath> ah its GS1
16:48 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:25 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpktpvdhdfwobfhv] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:40 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz
17:49 -!- math3 [uid54897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwqgvrotdkpxsqrv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
18:08 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-163-50-124.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:08 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-144-79-232.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:09 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:354e:8fae:925a:86a] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:31 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:41 -!- sheena [~home@d108-180-224-190.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:56 -!- drethelin [drethelin@71-87-115-157.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:56 -!- math3 [uid54897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uefcygxguyqzvuzj] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:59 -!- sheena [~home@d108-180-224-190.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:26 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpktpvdhdfwobfhv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
19:58 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tymvxftndeuphlkg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
20:13 < kanzure> beep boop
20:14 < tallakahath> Boop beep
20:23 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.159.180.115] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:24 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.159.180.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:24 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.50.26] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:46 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.50.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:47 < drethelin> sup bros
20:55  * juri_ beeps.
21:03 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-161-231-159.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:08 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:09 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-144-79-232.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:39 -!- seanph [~seanph@112.65.189.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:42 -!- seanph [~seanph@112.65.189.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:43 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:43 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
21:44 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:44 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
21:45 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:49 -!- math3 [uid54897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uefcygxguyqzvuzj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
22:05 < rancyd> hi all
22:13 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
22:41 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:23 -!- rancyd [strtrk@shell.xshellz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
23:24 -!- rancyd [strtrk@shell.xshellz.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:26 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:354e:8fae:925a:86a] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:37 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
23:48 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste	]
--- Log closed Thu Aug 27 00:00:53 2015