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04:59 < fenn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPAZ_nuclear_reactor "first flown in 1987 on the experimental Plazma-A satellites Cosmos 1818 and 1867, which were intended to test both the TOPAZ reactor and the Plasma-2 SPT electric engine. ... July 4, 2008, either Comos 1818 was hit by an object or a coolant tube cracked due to thermal stresses by repeated solar heating. The US Space Surveillance Network
04:59 < fenn> reported that about thirty objects were formed."
04:59 < fenn> is it just me or is that fucking awesome
05:01 < fenn> there's a leaking nuclear reactor in orbit for the past 7 years and nobody cares
05:01 < kanzure> "but safety!!!"
05:03 < fenn> "Zolotukhin said the Cosmos-1818 is expected to come down in 2045. He insisted the satellite would not cause radioactive contamination on Earth because it was designed to burn on re-entry."
05:03 < fenn> wow heh
05:05 < fenn> anyway the TOPAZ reactor is pretty cool
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05:11 < kanzure> great now we just need all nuclear reactors to launch upon failure
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05:47 < pasky> so it will burn *to what*?
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06:09 < JayDugger> Fairly neat, yes.
06:23 < cpopell4> I'm generally unconcerned about nuclear reactors >_>
06:24 < kanzure> nuclear reactors don't concern the empire
06:24 < cpopell4> kanzure : overton window counterpush
06:24 < kanzure> hm?
06:24 < cpopell4> people always freaking out about nuclear
06:25 < cpopell4> so I try to be more nonchalant than it deserves >_>
06:26 < eudoxia> i maintain a cavalier 60's attitude to nuclear, because i like to imagine i'm evening-out some hippie
06:32 < kanzure> "Police and the Drug Enforcement Agency use infrared technology to monitor the illegal growth of cannabis. As cannabis leaves have higher reflectivity in infrared wavelengths than other crops, they shine more brightly, even when planted among other vegetation meant to hide the cannabis plants. Police helicopters fitted with IR cameras can fly over fields and national forest areas to detect any illegal cannabis crop growth from the air."
06:32 < kanzure> hmm i think that could be fixed
06:33 < poppingtonic> .title https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
06:33 < yoleaux> Overton window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:34 < kanzure> .wik overton window
06:34 < yoleaux> "The Overton window, also known as the window of discourse, is the range of ideas the public will accept. It is used by media pundits. The term derives from its originator, Joseph P." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
06:35 < poppingtonic> "In 2010, conservative talk-show host and columnist Glenn Beck published a novel titled The Overton Window"
06:35 < kanzure> ray kurzweil is a bitcoiner http://www.kurzweilai.net/ask-ray-renowned-economist-and-author-george-gilders-new-information-theory-of-money
06:36 < kuudes> nuclear use would save lives... :-(
06:37 < kanzure> you frown like that is bad?
06:38 < kuudes> yeah, I would prefer we would use more nuclear so that we would lose less life as we currently do
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06:40 < kuudes> water power kills more people per watt than nuclear power iirc, and wind power is about equal because there are deaths of builders of windmills etc
06:40 < kuudes> coal power kills much more people than any of those
06:43 < kanzure> https://theoverspill.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/searches-average-mobile-google-problem/
06:43 < kanzure> the reason why nobody on their phone is searching is probably because phones suck for search
06:44 < cpopell4> phones suck for a lot of things but we're stuck with the expanding mobile paradigm
06:45 < kanzure> using a phone for search is like sucking in information through a straw
06:45 < kanzure> even if you do find something, not like you want to setup copy-paste infrastructure to send it to your actual machine
06:45 < kanzure> webpages don't load timely, don't render well, and touchscreen is brutal for any sort of precise interaction (doesn't work)
06:46 < cpopell4> you're preaching to the choir, lol
06:46 < kanzure> and then there's the single-task thing.... no i don't want to cache swap just for alt-tabbing to another activity.
06:47 < kanzure> maybe phone-display-as-augmented-device-for-search would work (in tandem with desktop search), e.g. as second input or display device.
06:50 < kuudes> well if you had a phone that would be a desktop with usb keyboards and external viewscreen...
06:50 < kuudes> n9 sort of was toward that
06:50 < kuudes> and oqo was that but no phone
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07:06 < kanzure> http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/doctors-barred-from-discussing-safety-glitches-in-us-funded-software-213553
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07:14 < cpopell4> kuudes : my cousin was one of the oqo founders iirc
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07:27 < fenn> the motherboard in my netbook is actually small enough to fit in a pocket, and it's the screen that draws most of the power, so i figure any realistic mobile information device will include a head mounted display if only for power usage reasons
07:27 < fenn> tiny screens don't scale
07:29 < fenn> even if someone comes up with a roll-up color e-ink or mirasol type display, it won't be practical because you have to either set up the screen somewhere or hold it or be limited by screen size
07:31 < fenn> the main limitation as far as "processing power" is that mobile stuff is very ram limited, for reasons i can't figure out
07:31 < kanzure> i wrote my comments down here too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10419090
07:31 < fenn> .title
07:31 < yoleaux> Using a phone for search is like sucking in information through a straw. Even if... | Hacker News
07:32 < Stskeeps> fenn: personally i'm more a believer in multisensory ux; ie, for many purposes, bone conducted spatial sound will do a lot
07:32 < Stskeeps> HMDs are fun but people really like their faces and other people's faces for some reason..
07:32 < fenn> Stskeeps: we've had 50 years to come up with an audio based operating system and still nothing has materialized...
07:33 < cpopell4> Hmmm
07:33 < kanzure> faces are overrated
07:33 < Stskeeps> fenn: because people look like idiots trying to speak commands :)
07:33 < cpopell4> I actually don't know what the limiting lower bound optics wise for HMDs
07:33 < cpopell4> *is for HMDs
07:33 < fenn> i'm not even talking about voice recognition
07:33 < Stskeeps> fenn: http://www.ingenic.cn/en/?newton/id/1.html is smaller than your netbook can be, btw
07:34 < Stskeeps> that's almost pendant size
07:34 < fenn> whatever
07:34 < fenn> how many tabs can it keep open?
07:34 < Stskeeps> hehe
07:34 < Stskeeps> 512mb ram, so i guess 1 with flash enabled :P
07:34 < fenn> lame
07:35 < fenn> there's no shortage of tiny underpowered SoC thingies
07:36 < fenn> gumstix has been around forever
07:38 < Stskeeps> still, it's about how you use that power
07:38 < fenn> anyway, i'd like to see a nice audio based file browser and system to access data from databases purely through audio
07:39 < fenn> it doesn't seem entirely different from using a command line
07:39 < Stskeeps> which can be a bit of a pain in the ass at times for that purpose
07:40 < fenn> yeah it's surprising how terrible command line database interfaces are
07:40 < Stskeeps> what i don't like about command line is that it's quite synchronous, while our thoughts really go all over the place and memories return asynchronously..
07:40 < fenn> i have no idea what that means
07:40 < Stskeeps> fair
07:41 < fenn> usually when typing commands i am thinking about what i am trying to do, but when pointing and clicking i am focusing on hitting the correct area on the screen
07:42 < fenn> brl-cad has a nice essay about learning curves, and how an expert user interface should be more like learning to play violin than a hurdy-gurdy
07:42 < Stskeeps> well, what i'm trying to say that with standard thought of command line you make a command, wait for answer, but in practice you'll often want to 'make a new tab' and do something meanwhile
07:43 < Stskeeps> fenn: got a link to that?
07:43 < fenn> it's called screen, or tmux
07:43 < fenn> or just learning to use job control the way it was intended
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07:47 < kanzure> i don't think touchscreen benefits us at at all
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07:50 < fenn> sorry stskeeps i can't find it
07:50 < Stskeeps> fenn: ok, thanks for looking
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07:55 < kanzure> wonder if textblade is shipping yet
07:57 < kanzure> https://forum.waytools.com/t/firmware-updates-19-oct/1115
08:02 < fenn> brl-cad was first written in the 1970s and after that graphical point and click interfaces got really popular, so they had to justify why they kept the old interface
08:03 < fenn> i'll admit i don't know how to effectively use brl-cad, but i don't know how to use blender either
08:03 < fenn> they're both expert-oriented interfaces
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08:06 < Stskeeps> fenn: sounds a bit like one of the arguments doug engelbart made (metaphor of a bicycle and tricycle. The tricycle is easier to learn, but a bicycle does more)
08:07 < fenn> oh, yeah maybe it was engelbart who started the meme
08:10 < fenn> "in order to achieve the best human-computer symbiosis – an objective that is central to his Augmenting Intellect philosophy – users need to be trained to use the most efficient computer artifacts (e.g. pointing devices, keyboards, etc.). Engelbart did not believe that computers should be easy for novices to use; he believed that people would require lengthy training in order to be truly
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08:10 < fenn> effective. Specifically, he wanted computer interactions to be based on systems that, with considerable training, were the most efficient – not the easiest to use."
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08:13 < fenn> gah
08:14 < fenn> i hate when i'm reading a particularly interesting comment on a blog i've never seen before and the comment was written by me :\
08:18 < cpopell4> lolol
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08:27 < kuudes> cpopell4, oh, my thanks for your cousin. oqo worked wonderfully to me until its battery went bad
08:27 < kuudes> it still would work, but without battery it is not very mobile. :-/
08:28 < kuudes> but the tech was really good, I am sad that it went down :-(
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08:29 < kuudes> I have pondered if it would be feasible to have an ui where the output would come by voice but input would be done by keyboard, even if small
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08:29 < kuudes> there have been some attempts to phone uis where the voice speaks options for different numbers, of which one selects from
08:30 < fenn> terrible
08:30 < fenn> "press 1 to be put on hold indefinitely"
08:30 < kuudes> well I have used them for banking some times and they were ok for my purposes
08:30 < fenn> now they have a weird AI that tries to talk to you
08:31 < fenn> it even dodges the question of whether it's human
08:32 < kuudes> like "please input your userid and press #": "please input your pin and press #" "please input otp from A11" "0 saldo 1 transfers 2 messages..." "please input target account number" "please input sum of cents" "the amount x will be trasferred to account y. please input otp b22" "transfer complete. 0 saldo 1 transfers..."
08:32 < kuudes> it didn't have any ai, just number inputs
08:33 < fenn> that's far too straightforward to ever happen in the US
08:33 < kuudes> that was 80s tech here
08:35 < kuudes> I guess some 2x20 keys could be enough for two thumb keyboards, one to each pocket
08:36 < kuudes> that would give 26 keys to alphabet, 10 keys to numbers and 4 keys extra
08:36 < fenn> i like the design of perky http://homepage2.nifty.com/perky/index.htm
08:37 < fenn> http://homepage2.nifty.com/perky/belt.htm
08:37 < kuudes> nice! :D
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08:42 < fenn> there are some good ideas in how stenography maps key inputs to compressed phonemes to word stems and suffixes
08:43 < fenn> but i find it odd how every stenographer reinvents the wheel, each with its own idiosyncrasies
08:43 < kuudes> :-/
08:43 < fenn> and that's the official way to do it
08:46 < fenn> heh i'm mirroring/archiving the perky webpage and they have a zillion gifs for mapping key inputs to individual dictionary words
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08:46 < fenn> http://homepage2.nifty.com/perky/elegance.gif so easy!
08:47 < fenn> http://homepage2.nifty.com/perky/easy.gif
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09:21 < poppingtonic> Yay for optogenetics: http://news.mit.edu/2015/brain-controls-sleep-1013
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09:32 < poppingtonic> whoa that's a fluffy bag
09:46 < kanzure> for stenography i think we are going to be basically stuck with the default plover dictionary for a long time
09:46 < kanzure> https://gist.github.com/morinted/55426f851831e87d239d
09:47 < kanzure> warning large file https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstenoproject/plover/master/plover/assets/main.json
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10:19 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5g1xubyuVs
10:19 < yoleaux> Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie Trailer - YouTube
10:22 < kanzure> modafinil lawsuits https://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca3/15-3475
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10:22 < kanzure> .title
10:22 < yoleaux> In Re: Modafinil AntiTrust, et al, et al :: Justia Dockets & Filings
10:22 < kanzure> .title http://pastebin.com/GXFuFXkn
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10:46 < maaku> fenn: "how terrible command line database interfaces are" <-- they have a REPL! that's a step above everything else
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12:48 < nmz787_i> sup
12:50 < FourFire> trying to figure out Vcarve without knowing what I'm doing
12:51 < nmz787_i> so apparently grbl doesn't necessarily synchronize movements with turning on the laser, from what I've read online yesterday
12:52 < chris_99> nmz787_i, out of interest did you get the '600 l/mm 365 - 1100 nm 3 nm' grating for your spectrometer
12:55 < nmz787_i> http://www.ocpp.org/media/uploads/pdf/2015/04/silicon-forest-universe.pdf
12:55 < nmz787_i> chris_99: lemme check
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12:55 < chris_99> cheers
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13:01 < nmz787_i> chris_99: yes I got the 600 l/mm
13:01 < chris_99> cheers, i'm sort of contemplating it, as i cancelled a KS spectrometer
13:02 < nmz787_i> chris_99: "We custom build each of the units, so we don't have them in stock per-se, but I can send you an invoice for one if you like. The unaligned DIY kits are $300, and the aligned units are $500. The lead time is approximately 2 weeks."
13:02 < nmz787_i> and "The prices are the same as listed on the website, but you requested a quote for the 600/900 l/mm gratings installed in the spectrometer. The 1800 l/mm kit is $200. The others are more expensive because we need to purchase a replacement grating and then install it."
13:02 < chris_99> how much did you pay?
13:02 < kanzure> .title https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6856
13:02 < yoleaux> Do not allow block file pruning during reindex. by morcos · Pull Request #6856 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:02 < nmz787_i> info@science-surplus.com
13:03 < nmz787_i> chris_99: $315 with shipping (but within the US)
13:03 < chris_99> ah interesting, thats a bit much for me atm alas
13:03 < kanzure> .title http://journal.siddhesh.in/posts/malloc-per-thread-arenas-in-glibc.html
13:03 < yoleaux> Malloc per-thread arenas in glibc
13:04 < nmz787_i> chris_99: what are your spectral needs?
13:04 < chris_99> 900nm
13:04 < chris_99> for alcohol
13:04 < nmz787_i> chris_99: you interested in finishing up the CCD spectrometer project I have going?
13:05 < chris_99> yeah quite possibly as a i have 5 of those CCDs
13:05 < chris_99> just no ADC yet
13:05 < nmz787_i> last think I did was get PCBs made, but then realized I used the wrong footprint for the LDO power supply, and also that the LDO I chose went out of production :/
13:05 < nmz787_i> the ADC I was using was I think like $3
13:05 < nmz787_i> the board should be pretty clean analog-wise
13:06 < nmz787_i> I made sure no digital signals or ground loops would pass over analog related stuff
13:06 < chris_99> cool
13:06 < chris_99> did you ever try it out?
13:07 < nmz787_i> nah, because the LDO footprint was wrong and I didn't have a lot of time when the PCBs came in... it wasn't as easy as just soldering the components and trying it out... I'd have had to do some minimal rework (or just skip the LDO and use a lab supply)
13:07 < nmz787_i> which would have worked fine for proving the rest of the board
13:08 < nmz787_i> chris_99: you're in england right? any idea how much a small padded packet would cost to ship over?
13:08 < chris_99> yeah i am
13:08 < nmz787_i> I got 3 of those boards, so wouldn't mind parting with 1 and a set of BOM
13:08 < chris_99> hmm not sure, shouldn't be too much i guess
13:08 < nmz787_i> even easier since you have the CCDs
13:09 < chris_99> what ADC did you use?
13:09 < chris_99> oh i can check you HaD
13:09 < chris_99> thing
13:10 < nmz787_i> wolfson WM8253
13:10 < nmz787_i> ya this is better than the github info-wise https://hackaday.io/project/1342-open-spectrometer
13:11 < chris_99> cheers, i'll have a look
13:11 < nmz787_i> github has the board file with the incorrect LDO
13:11 < nmz787_i> in kicad
13:11 < nmz787_i> but the schematic screenshot is too low res to see the part names clearly
13:13 < poppingtonic> what is utACK?
13:13 < chris_99> oh yeah you used the propeller
13:13 < poppingtonic> I see it in many comments in the bitcoin repo's issuses and PRs
13:14 < nmz787_i> chris_99: yeah, and the CCD stuff is done... just needs the ADC core and then USB/serial/sd-card
13:14 < nmz787_i> so CCD will output data with the firmware as-is
13:14 < nmz787_i> which is visible with an o-scope
13:15 < chris_99> neat
13:17 < kanzure> poppingtonic: utACK is "untested ACK", see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6100
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13:21 < chris_99> oh that adc is 16 bit, that's better than i thought nmz787_i
13:22 < poppingtonic> huh.. thanks
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13:22 < nmz787_i> chris_99: yup!
13:23 < chris_99> will 16bit be enough for most things you think
13:23 < chris_99> i've not used a spectrometer before
13:24 < nmz787_i> yeah I think so, any more and you move up about an order of magnitude in design difficulty
13:24 < nmz787_i> I think some of the commercial ones using that sensor are either 12 or 16 bit
13:24 < chris_99> yeah that's a good point, i've used a 24bit ADC, but that was only for a _very_ low sample rate
13:25 < chris_99> ah that's cool if commercial ones use that res
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13:45 < justanotheruser> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14VZY98PZzE&feature=youtu.be&t=18s
13:45 < justanotheruser> .title
13:45 < yoleaux> Резка металла водой - YouTube
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13:59 < poppingtonic> .title http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/theres-a-mystery-machine-that-sculpts-the-human-genome/411199/?single_page=true
13:59 < yoleaux> There’s a Mystery Machine That Sculpts the Human Genome - The Atlantic
14:00 < poppingtonic> .title http://dx.doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1518552112
14:00 < yoleaux> Error: DOI Not Found
14:00 < poppingtonic> hmmm...
14:01 < maaku> fail
14:01 < poppingtonic> .title https://youtu.be/Tn5qgEqWgW8
14:01 < yoleaux> How does DNA fold? The loop extrusion model - YouTube
14:02 < poppingtonic> "The genome totally behaves as if the extrusion complex was a thing.
14:02 < poppingtonic> Rao and Sanborn created a simulation that predicts the structure of
14:02 < poppingtonic> the genome on the basis that the complex is real and works they way
14:02 < poppingtonic> they think it does.
14:02 < poppingtonic> These predictions were so accurate that the team could even re-sculpt
14:02 < poppingtonic> the genome at will. They started playing around with the CTCF landing
14:02 < poppingtonic> pads, deleting, flipping, and editing these sequences using a powerful
14:02 < poppingtonic> gene-editing technique called CRISPR. In every case, their simulation
14:02 < poppingtonic> predicted how the changes would alter the 3-D shape of the genome, and
14:02 < poppingtonic> how it would create, move, or remove the existing loops. And in every
14:02 < poppingtonic> case, it was right."
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15:22 < kanzure> "This is modelled off a reading group where we would meet to discuss once a week in person. I personally find face-to-face meetings motivationally important and look forward to such meetings, but don't expect everyone to want to attend, so we will take down public meeting notes (I plan to rotate note-taking between the kind souls who volunteered to help) and the mailing list is for general discussion and coordination."
15:22 < kanzure> (about a nurbs reading group or something)
15:22 < kanzure> face-to-face is a plague
15:24 < kanzure> why would i expect to find motivation in **anyone's** face?
15:24 < kanzure> "truly your grimace is inspiring"
15:24 < kanzure> "well done team"
15:28 < kanzure> "your terrible posture has suddenly relayed to me the importance of learning some linear algebra to solve this surface-surface intersection problem, totes wow"
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15:31 < nmz787_i> well sometimes ppl are bad at speaking their feelings, so body language plays a big role
15:31 < nmz787_i> also snacks
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15:46 < nmz787_i> 'his cousin, jar.jar, appears frequently in Android.'
15:59 < kuudes> c3po.jar.jar ?
16:00 < QuadIngi> kanzure, something to do with the psychological effects of filling your dunnbarian number with (people who signal hard workingness)
16:01 < QuadIngi> I imagine, I don't observe such effects and am not very productive.
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16:24 < maaku> nurbs reading group? what's there to read?
16:24 < maaku> you're talking about the spline equations, right?
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16:45 < kanzure> maaku: nurbs for surface-surface and curve-curve intersection. cad kernel reasons.
16:45 < kanzure> there's a bunch of academic research about these algorithms and efficient representation
16:45 < kanzure> but not as much (clean) code
16:45 < kanzure> cleanest i have seen so far has been https://github.com/pboyer/verb
16:48 < kanzure> http://verbnurbs.com/
16:48 < kanzure> http://verbnurbs.com/examples/surfaceIntersection.html
16:48 < kanzure> awesome he finally has a surface-surface intersection example
16:49 < kanzure> welp time for the apocalypse to begin
16:49 < kanzure> res = verb.geom.Intersect.surfaces( srf1, srf2, 1e-6 );
16:51 < kanzure> cadquery person should switch to wrapping verbnurbs instead of freecad http://parametricparts.com/parts/featured
16:52 < kanzure> "adjustable right angle stepper mount" http://parametricparts.com/parts/j9kw9j93/
16:53 < kanzure> "A cow bone is stripped of all living material and milled down to the precise size and shape needed for the transplant. Stem cells are added and over weeks gradually grow within their host into a physical and genetic replica of the patient’s own bone. EpiBone has successfully tested its idea in pigs, and human trials are next, with approval from the Food and Drug Administration expected in the next few years."
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17:05 < kanzure> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/us/egg-donors-challenge-pay-rates-saying-they-shortchange-women.html
17:05 < kanzure> something something, claims about price fixing a $10k price limit on eggs but not for sperm
17:09 < abetusk> kanzure, communicating ideas in person or in video chat can be higher bandwidth than a single email
17:09 < kanzure> yes because it's impossible to encode nuance and subtlety in text -_-
17:11 < kanzure> it's low-bandwidth. much lower wpm, way less precise, way slower, and a form of synchronous communication so you generally have to not be doing 10 other things at the same time.
17:12 < abetusk> different people learn in different ways. I think for the majority of people communicating in person is much more effective at knowledge transfer than written text
17:15 < kanzure> because the quality of inferences generated when reading text is lower than the quality of inferences generated when looking at someone's face?
17:17 < kanzure> maaku: more specifically re: what is there to read, see http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/cad/
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18:05 < kanzure> genehacker: greetings. what's new in your alternate universe?
18:06 < genehacker> A lot of debugging
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18:07 < genehacker> Chemists in our group are gonna try to make a new MOF
18:10 < kanzure> yup lots and lots of debugging, fun times
18:10 < genehacker> Oh and I think if this material works we could maybe make respirocytes
18:11 < genehacker> * if a few assumptions are made
18:15 < ryankarason> i like text.. people mumble.. and i have to translate accents..
18:15 < genehacker> Current MOFs can probably store oxygen and co2 at similar densities to diamonoid respirocytes
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18:40 < kanzure> genehacker: you might find this one fun, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Designing%20scalable%20biological%20interfaces%20-%20Marblestone.pdf
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19:47 < drethelin> man
19:47 < drethelin> 15 percent error rate is pretty absurd when your machine is handling stuff that's 400 dollars a ml
19:50 < kanzure> broke your coffee maker?
19:54 < kanzure> .title http://wechoosethemoon.es/2015/10/08/landsat-ndvi-leaflet/
19:54 < yoleaux> Satellite crop health: open source toolchain
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20:17 < kanzure> bloop
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20:26 < drethelin> kanzure: dispensing fugene hd
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21:15 < kanzure> i think geneh is same geneh as hacker news geneh
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21:32 < nmz787_i> genehacker?
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21:35 < justanotheruser> It's so exciting when the top post on hacker news is one-word that and the URL is one-word.io
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23:44 < maaku> kanzure: nurbs are extensively used in the CGI and game industry
23:44 < maaku> I'm very surprised there's not better code out there
23:45 < maaku> I seem to recall there being better curves for those purposes though ... but that was 10 years ago. I can't remember the tradeoffs involved
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23:48 < maaku> kanzure: wht's the MOF genehacker is referring to?
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