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04:12 < FourFire> kanzure, people think that creating interspecies chemæra would be beneficial for health?
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04:36 < kanzure> FourFire: not sure
04:36 < kanzure> haven't heard that
04:39 < FourFire> from yesterday:
04:39 < FourFire> <kanzure> "Live cell therapy is the practice of injecting processed cells from organs or fetuses of nonhuman animals (e.g., sheep) into human recipients (1). It is advertised to treat a variety of health conditions. This practice is unavailable in the United States; however, persons can travel to foreign locations to receive injections."
04:39 < FourFire>  "The five New York patients had traveled in a group of 10–15 persons to the state of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany to receive intramuscular injections of fetal sheep cells from a German physician on May 30, 2014."
04:39 < FourFire> "Second WHO Global Consultation on Regulatory Requirements for Xenotransplantation Clinical Trials" http://www.who.int/transplantation/xeno/report2nd_global_consultation_xtx.pdf?ua=1
04:40 < FourFire> If that isn't chimærism then I must misunderstand the terminology.
04:42 < kanzure> hmm wikipedia claims that organ transplanting qualifies the recipient as a chimera
04:43 < kanzure> crispr-cas9 anti-patent stuff https://bostonreview.net/books-ideas/yarden-katz-who-owns-molecular-biology
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05:00 < JayDugger> Woo-hoo! Then the first xenotransplant recipient can serve as a test case for non-human citizenship.
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05:37 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdAUiyeJMFQ
05:37 < yoleaux> 「スター・ウォーズ/フォースの覚醒」予告編2 - YouTube
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06:43 < kanzure> "the first xenotransplant recipient can serve" that happened decades ago
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07:37 < kanzure> adhesive tape gun for prototyping and art reasons http://robertkovax.com/protopiper-physically-sketching-room-sized-objects-at-actual-scale
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08:10 < kanzure> "I used 400 Mb of NSF Research Awards abstracts 1990-2003 for learning this char-RNN with 3 layers and size 1024." https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60518165/Lepra/rnn/nsf-awards.txt
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09:21 < poppingtonic> so what did it do after that?
09:24 < kanzure> nothing.
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09:42 < JayDugger> Baby Faye was much too young to try to escape paying her taxes on the basis of "no longer entirely human."
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10:24 < kanzure> sci-hub is also up at http://www.sci-hub.io/
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11:22 < nsh> .tw https://twitter.com/johnpoverington/status/662196194815381504
11:22 < yoleaux> This could be an exciting advance for cheminformatics https://lucatrevisan.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/laci-babai-and-graph-isomorphism/ (@johnpoverington)
11:22 < nsh> .t
11:22 < yoleaux> Fri, 06 Nov 2015 19:22:43 UTC
11:22 < nsh> .title https://lucatrevisan.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/laci-babai-and-graph-isomorphism/
11:22 < yoleaux> Laci Babai and Graph Isomorphism | in theory
11:24 < nsh> 'The problem is self-reducible in such a way that an algorithm that answers the yes/no question can be converted, with polynomial slow-down, to an algorithm that outputs an isomorphism if one exists'
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11:31 < nmz787_i> "In 2001, Michael Jordan and others resigned from the Editorial Board of Machine Learning. In a public letter, they argued for less restrictive access; a new journal Journal of Machine Learning Research (JMLR) was created to support the evolution of the field of machine learning."
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12:09 < kanzure> 11:57 <+msy> .t http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/11/06/454853229/did-the-language-you-speak-evolve-because-of-the-heat
12:09 < kanzure> 11:57 <+saxo> Environment May Have Influenced How Languages Sound : Shots - Health News : NPR
12:09 < kanzure> 12:01 <+nsh> certainly, the glasgow east-end accent is nasalized due to industrial pollution
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12:30 < kanzure> FourFire: i recommend solidworks inside of a virtual machine. freecad just crashes too often.
12:31 < FourFire> kanzure, ok, thanks, I don't know what solidworks is, but my hackerspace gave me a free course in freeCAD
12:31 < FourFire> nnow it's my CAD hammer...
12:32 < kanzure> freecad's ui is nice, but it crashes all the time.
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12:32 < kanzure> this isn't freecad's fault, but rather opencascade (the underlying cad kernel that freecad is using)
12:35 < kanzure> *opencascade's
12:35 < kanzure> no point in losing all your work every 15 minutes
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12:55 < kanzure> backwards time travel can be done with global reset plus carefully placed forward-only time machine
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12:57 < kanzure> (in that hypothetical scenario you would use smolin-like cosmological natural selection constants and edit in your forward-only time machine) ((but those constants did not seem like a vector for injecting arbitrary energy/matter) (besides also being completely unverified and unverifiable))
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13:01 < kanzure> you could also do backwards time travel if you simulate everyone ahead of realtime. then when they want to go back in time you just stop the simulation when real clock time says it's the correct time.
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13:32 < nmz787_i> kanzure: did that GDF11 guy stop taking it? (it says 1.5 years, can't tell if ongoing)
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13:40 < kanzure> dunno
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13:44 < nmz787_i> also he said he was alread in his 50s
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13:45 < nmz787_i> I wonder what it would do for me
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13:52 < nmz787_i> anyone know of a good set of screw-thread-on-a-keyring ? I always seem to need to test what screw is appropriate for some random hole... and I figure someone has made a few keyrings full of labelled screws.... SAE, metric... other weird ones I might not know but are common?
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18:17 < kanzure> why haven't any of you machine learning people ran machine learning things against the logs?
18:21 < kanzure> health insurance companies (if they continue to exist in the future, bleh) should have customer blood banking on-premises so that they can save on costs of future healthcare blunders for their customers.
18:21 < kanzure> and we should really be convincing people to gather stem cells from miscarriages
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18:40 < kanzure> i wonder if veins/arteries develop prior to implantation and umbilical cord development. you know, for needle insertion.
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18:47 < kanzure> you might be able to get one of those to get stuck in a developmental phase where production of stem cells is plentiful and easily harvested
18:47 < kanzure> and other cell lines and tissue of interest
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22:36 < JayDugger> nmz787_i, I think what you want is a thread checker. http://www.threadtoolsupply.com/thread-checker.html
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