--- Log opened Sun Nov 08 00:00:19 2015 00:42 < Hercules> Hello 00:42 < Hercules> I am trying to setup an RC Transmitter and Receiver on my Quadcopter of my RPi 00:42 < Hercules> How do I setup it on it? 00:47 < fenn> please ask in ##electronics 00:56 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-obhgflqztlpdfjyx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:05 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:07 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:07 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has quit [Quit: Powered off :-)] 01:22 -!- Emmel [~Emmel@101.162.162.156] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:00 -!- Emmel [~Emmel@101.162.162.156] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 02:13 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:22 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@50.141.118.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@50.141.117.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:33 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bprgieabfnqdgpxu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:28 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cimmspmvcsynlrwk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 < kanzure> nah on second thought let's just wait for the singularity 03:48 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjwbkmbvkzintopt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:03 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:22 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:25 -!- Hercules [Hercules@117.237.44.238] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:25 -!- Hercules [Hercules@117.237.44.238] has quit [Changing host] 04:25 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:35 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:36 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axhqvmurbfrtccri] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:37 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 05:09 < kanzure> http://offers.p212121.com/ does reagent price tracking comparative shopping things.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10526618 05:14 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseconomies_of_scale 05:32 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-semzfltnnodqywjh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 -!- drethelin [drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:58 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:18 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.14.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:26 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.14.95] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:42 < kanzure> ">30 billion 45 μm diameter droplets per hour" http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/lc/c5lc01025j#!divAbstract 07:46 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- _hanhart [~hanhart@static.101.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 07:56 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:57 < kanzure> FourFire: smaug should be told about copenhagen suborbitals. 08:08 -!- _hanhart [~hanhart@static.101.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 08:30 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:30 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:38 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:09 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:15 -!- Fausta [~Fausta@2606:a000:482a:8f00:f154:8900:a2a6:16b9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 < Fausta> yayyyyyy 09:16 < Fausta> so happy to be here 09:18 < kanzure> sup 09:20 < FourFire> greetings Fausta 09:20 < FourFire> what brings you here? 09:21 < Fausta> I support transhumanism 09:21 < Fausta> someone told me about this channel just now 09:21 < kanzure> you support? 09:22 < Fausta> I think it is a good thing which should and will happen 09:23 < FourFire> ok 09:24 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 09:24 < FourFire> We here in the channel (attempt to) actively work towards making it happen. 09:24 < FourFire> For example, I'm trying to make a user configurable BCI, short term, and longterm ... other things 09:24 < poppingtonic> welcome 09:26 < FourFire> kanzure, did you read that tDCS paper I linked earlier? 09:27 < kanzure> nope. which one? 09:27 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s063r/what_are_bitcoins_most_important_differentiating/ 09:28 < Fausta> thx 09:28 < Fausta> what is a BCI 09:30 < kanzure> brachiosaurus-computer interface 09:31 < kanzure> 09:30 < c0rw1n> hello cuddly cultits and huggy heretits 09:31 < kanzure> 09:30 < kanzure> howdy 09:31 < kanzure> 09:30 -!- #lesswrong Cannot send to channel 09:31 < kanzure> c0rw1n: :| 09:32 < c0rw1n> yeah. that is why #lesswrong needs a modbot. 09:32 < c0rw1n> i'm going to ##lw-meta to ask that they unquiiet you 09:34 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4582:9cd9:26b:788c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:43 -!- kuudes [~kuudes@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:53 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axhqvmurbfrtccri] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:57 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@108.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 10:11 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@108.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:12 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:22 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.14.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:48 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvadwewfdexsozyv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- kuudes [~kuudes@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:08 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:13 < cluckj> beep 11:14 < c0rw1n> boop 11:17 < kanzure> cluckj: see popper stuff in http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-11-07.log 11:18 < cluckj> kk 11:19 < cluckj> I should be able to share a copy of my dissertation in a couple weeks when I finish the necessary revisions 11:26 < cluckj> I defended it on Friday and passed 11:27 -!- kuudes [~kuudes@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:29 < kanzure> congrats 11:29 < kanzure> so do i have to salute you when you enter the room now...? 11:30 < kanzure> how does this work 11:34 -!- kuudes [~kuudes@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:35 < cluckj> I think it just means that if you want to pay me to do something, it now costs a lot more than it did last Thursday 11:37 < kanzure> pfft you and i both know a phd is worthless in that respect :-) 11:37 < cluckj> ;) 11:39 < Fausta> congrats cluckj 11:39 < Fausta> what is your area 11:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:40 < cluckj> science and technology studies, but I am at base a historian/anthropologist of the life sciences 11:40 < kanzure> he is specialist in epistemic warfare and observing amateur science 11:40 < cluckj> that is a much cooler way of putting it 11:40 < cluckj> but I'm not just an observer 11:41 < kanzure> everyone's a critic, hrm. 11:42 < kanzure> "scientist trapmaker" 11:43 < cluckj> I document what I see happening amongst "amateur" science in the course of participating in it 11:43 < kanzure> he does a lot of this https://xkcd.com/356/ 11:44 < cluckj> lol 11:46 < Fausta> amateur science? 11:46 < kanzure> non-institutional 11:46 < kanzure> not really amateur 11:46 < cluckj> some of that stuff that you link to in your popper chat, especially on lesswrong, is really rough 11:46 < kanzure> rough as in wrong? 11:47 < cluckj> sort of? the boundaries that they set up to make their arguments are really quite small 11:47 < Fausta> that was the first funny one I've een 11:47 < cluckj> and make a lot of assumptions 11:47 < Fausta> seen from xkcd 11:48 < cluckj> also not non-institutional either, Genspace has some institutions there 11:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 < kanzure> genspace is institutional, community biology lab thing 11:48 < cluckj> I either cop out and say "amateur" or "DIY biologists" or come up with a crazier term "parascientists" 11:50 < cluckj> biohacker too, I guess 11:50 < kanzure> so how much of this is wrong? http://fallibleideas.com/ 11:51 < cluckj> I only briefly looked at the "avoiding coercion" post 11:51 < kanzure> was one of the links from the lesswrong threads from yesterday 11:51 < kanzure> hm. 11:52 < cluckj> oh that page is much more interesting 11:52 < cluckj> it says to go read ayn rand at the bottom 11:52 < kanzure> yeah i'm not sure why it says that 11:53 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 < cluckj> "In conclusion, it is possible for people to get through everyday life with no coercion at all, with no need to be especially creative, if they want to, just using a small subset of common decency, a trivial, mechanical method, and a moderate amount of reason." == if everyone was (like) me, things would be so much better 11:54 < kanzure> i suspect his method can work even if the other side is using something else that is roughly compatible 11:54 < kanzure> there's no reason to force compatibility when there's none 11:55 < cluckj> I dunno 11:56 < kanzure> he was claiming this is good "summary" of popper stuff. yes/no? 11:56 < kanzure> e.g. his explanation for recursive justification of arguments and why that is a bad strategy 11:56 < cluckj> what he was saying about recursive justification of arguments seems to be based on falsifiability from popper 11:57 < kanzure> cool 11:58 < cluckj> popper was talking specifically about science, not necessarily about how to live in the world, or make arguments 11:59 < cluckj> he (popper) suggests that falsifiability isn't a good measure of what counts as truth, because it's impossible 12:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:01 < cluckj> I'm not sure of the value of porting that into the practice of talking to, or trying to cooperate with, people on an everyday basis 12:14 < kanzure> sounds like you're talking with the wrong people :-) 12:15 < cluckj> oh? 12:17 < kanzure> hehe 12:17 < kanzure> (bbl) 12:32 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-81-228-70.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:33 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-87-113-117.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4582:9cd9:26b:788c] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:07 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 41.0.2/20151014143721]] 13:36 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@err210.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:49 < kanzure> review of all star wars games from 1982-2008 (3h video) http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/kwzpy7/gt-retrospectives-star-wars-retrospective--complete-collection 13:54 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@50.141.118.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:58 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJUVJAUY8o 13:58 < yoleaux> Pteromys: Interactive Design and Optimization of Free-formed Free-flight Model Airplanes - YouTube 14:00 < kanzure> http://www.nobuyuki-umetani.com/GliderDesign/2014_siggraph_GliderDesign.pdf 14:00 < kanzure> http://www.nobuyuki-umetani.com/GliderDesign/2014_siggraph_GliderDesign.html 14:01 < kanzure> "This paper introduces novel interactive techniques for designing original hand-launched free-flight glider airplanes which can actually fly. The aerodynamic properties of a glider aircraft depend on their shape, imposing significant design constraints. We present a compact and efficient representation of glider aerodynamics that can be fit to real-world conditions using a data-driven method. To do so, we acquire a sample set of glider ... 14:01 < kanzure> ... flight trajectories using a video camera and the system learns a nonlinear relationship between forces on the wing and wing shape. Our acquisition system is much simpler to construct than a wind tunnel, but using it we can efficiently discover a wing model for simple gliding aircraft. Our resulting model can handle general free-form wing shapes and yet agrees sufficiently well with the acquired airplane flight trajectories. Based on ... 14:01 < kanzure> ... this compact aerodynamics model, we present a design tool in which the wing configuration created by a user is interactively optimized to maximize flight-ability. To demonstrate the effectiveness of our tool for glider design by novice users, we compare it with a traditional design workflow." 14:02 < kanzure> "Instead of expensive fluid dynamics simulation, Pteromys utilizes a simpler but much faster approach called "wing theory"." 14:02 < kanzure> "Our approach tries to apply wing theory for free-formed airplane. To acquire parameter necessary for this application, we use machine learning techniques in the preparation stage." 14:02 < kanzure> wonder if they did symbolic regression to pull out some equations for this 14:12 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@err210.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15 < kanzure> someone is doing 70 nm slices of brain tissue for ~150 donated brains that had iq tested in 1930s and 1940s https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22830450-400-my-brain-collection-could-help-us-all-thrive-in-old-age/ 14:15 < kanzure> (er, the brains aged in the mean time) 14:18 -!- Fausta is now known as Fausta|afk 14:39 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpgfqwkjrtsseddd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 < QuadIngi> interesting for BCI: http://blog.jfrey.info/2015/02/04/openbci-p300-coadapt/ 14:56 < kanzure> are we still talking about brachiosaurus-computer interfaces? 14:56 < QuadIngi> This overlaps substantially with what I wanted to do, I'll have to contact him and improve on it with increased simplicity of setup, and better usability features 14:56 < QuadIngi> kanzure, I'm interested because I hate fondleslabs 14:58 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvadwewfdexsozyv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:01 < kanzure> haven't been impressed by eeg 15:01 < kanzure> i also haven't seen theoretical speculation about limits of eeg, or at least any limits that look interesting 15:02 < kanzure> but i haven't looked in a while. maybe people are getting more than a few bits/minute out of people's heads with eeg. 15:04 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:20 < kanzure> essentially this hangout is a feed where internet people watch mit people eating food talking about papers. whatever. 15:26 < kanzure> in 6 15:26 < kanzure> fijoiewqjq 15:48 -!- kuudes is now known as sanitywaterline 15:48 -!- sanitywaterline is now known as kuudes 15:49 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grasshopper_3D 15:53 < kanzure> (from the opennurbs rhino people) (but really brlcad's use of opennurbs is more useful at this point) 15:54 -!- Fausta|afk is now known as Fausta 15:56 -!- c0rw1n is now known as GreenBat 15:57 -!- GreenBat is now known as c0rw1n 17:06 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:14 -!- Mariu [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:14 -!- Mariu [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:24 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oewxgbgjektneesi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:43 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpgfqwkjrtsseddd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:53 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@184.250.187.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@184.250.187.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@184.250.187.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:01 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@184.250.187.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:43 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cimmspmvcsynlrwk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:07 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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