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My headaches seem to be related to insufficient/poor energy intake. Intensive learning is very demanding. It exacerbates any mistakes in feeding. 06:41 < FourFire> Feeding? 06:42 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-81-223-159.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-86-72.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 < FourFire> TMA energy intake as in metabolic (blood sugar content), or blood flow to the brain, or what? 06:47 < TMA> FourFire: I have not measured it rigorously to the level of blood sugar content. I have observed, that subsisting on certain types and quantities of foodstuffs has strong relation to next-day headache. 06:47 < FourFire> Ok. 06:50 < TMA> FourFire: as a concrete example: fish consumed in quantity just sufficient to feel sated but not full makes the next-day mental performance "feel" better; however the 'just sated' amount is not adequate for sustained mental effort -- I am burning the calories faster than I am acquiring them via eating to the just sated state. 06:51 < FourFire> Ok, I tend to overeat, every time 06:52 < FourFire> trying to become more vegetarian, by way of DIY soylent, not sure to what extent I can succeed. 06:58 < TMA> FourFire: the second observation: mental effort is not reflected in raising apetite, while physical effort is. It is easier for me to get starved while thinking than while exerting myself physically. 06:58 < FourFire> I have noticed the same. 06:59 < FourFire> isn't there a disproprotionate amount of some energy carrier molecules utilized by the brain (glucose?) 07:00 < TMA> FourFire: the composition is important too. fast carbohydrates (sugars, white bread, ...) do not tend to last long enough to sustain mental effort; while the brain's prefference for glucose would suggest otherwise 07:01 < FourFire> so hunger signalling mechanims could depend on all levels of say fat metabolites, protein metabolites, and glucose metabolites going down, whereas mental extertion only exhausts one of them 07:01 < FourFire> well peaks in blood sugar content just get turned into fat right? 07:01 < FourFire> better to have regular, even hills of nourishment? 07:02 < FourFire> soylent isi nteresting because I tend to just munch on it throughout the day while working 07:04 < TMA> dried meat (jerky/biltong) is doing the trick for me (alas it tends to be on the pricey side) 07:05 < TMA> the other component to headaches is insufficient water intake 07:06 < TMA> similarly to hunger, thirst is not stimulated by mental effort as it is by physical effort. 07:07 < streety> hunger is also going to be driven by stomach emptying 07:08 < TMA> it indeed is. that's why constricting the stomach to split it into two parts is helpful in reducing the voracity of some of the morbidly obese 07:08 < streety> your muscles and liver also convert glucose into glycogen 07:09 < streety> part of the reason, there are some weird unexpected effects we still don't really understand 07:11 < streety> perhaps we should be aligning the mental and physical loads and doing air squats and pushups during those breaks we take every 20 minutes without fail 07:13 < FourFire> streety, we take breaks every 20 minutes without fail? 07:13 -!- ak_ [~ak@65.78.54.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:13 < streety> lol, I don't know anyone who does. 07:17 -!- ak_ [~ak@65.78.54.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < streety> FourFire: what's the recipe you're using for the DIY soylent. I hadn't realized there was such a crazy array of options 07:47 < FourFire> streety, it's this one, excpet i use mulkpowder and gelain (for consistency): http://www.cookingfor20.com/2013/11/16/all-natural-soylent-recipe/ 07:47 < FourFire> coconut sugar was odd, and costs way too much 07:48 < FourFire> next batch is going to be normal brown cane sugar 07:48 < streety> I'll take a look 07:49 < FourFire> about a year ago I made a cheap as possible subsituted version of that site's older soylent recipe, I didn't stick with it. this time I wanted to go as high end and see if it was more enjoyable, it is. 07:49 < streety> just been browsing diy.soylent.com 07:49 < FourFire> yeah, warning: recipe I linked is not chocolate milk, if you drink it thinking it is, you'll get a disgusting suprise 07:49 < FourFire> it's food, not dessert. 07:53 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzifaudftnhaiahf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:00 < streety> I'm not sure 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known as blueskin 18:32 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:38 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 18:39 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 18:43 < kanzure> words in http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-wizards/2015-11-29.log 18:44 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:46 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 18:56 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- smeaaagle 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21:54 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@unaffiliated/checkdavid] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:05 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:14 < kanzure> why did everyone die 22:18 -!- proofoflogic_ [uid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:20 -!- proofoflogic [uid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:20 -!- proofoflogic_ is now known as proofoflogic 22:23 < drethelin> it was fate 22:33 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@2001:41d0:1:9185::1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@2001:41d0:1:9185::1] has quit [Changing host] 22:33 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:39 -!- yash [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:51 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:59 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:03 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-50-16-125-35.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:07 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:07 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-235-7-139.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:17 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:24 < fenn> probably thanksgiving 23:26 < maaku> did I miss something? 23:29 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 -!- smeaaagle_ [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:30 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:30 -!- smeaaagle_ is now known as smeaaagle 23:32 -!- blueskin 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