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02:45 < FourFire> kanzure, as a member of a hackerspace with one such 30W lasercutter, I argue that they provide a maximum of utility in cutting through plastic materials with a minimum of illegality, but then this country is sortof strict about that sort of thing.
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05:54 < kanzure> bah, everyone should have a 100 kilowatt laser cutter in their house. it is practical necessity for everyday thing.
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06:20 < streety> nothing else balances out the 6-axis cryogenic CNC machines so wonderfully
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06:46 < JayDugger> Goes nicely with the atomic power plant in the sub-basement.
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07:32 < xentrac> FourFire: what is this about illegality?  is it illegal to cut plastic in other ways where you are?
07:33 < FourFire> xentrac, laser power, import regulations, I live in a country so small that nothing of consequence is actually produced here
07:33 < xentrac> oh, and you can't import high-power lasers?
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07:36 < juri_> I like the 3 watt one on my printer. do wish it was a bit beefier tho.
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08:14 < kanzure> ParahSailin: can you help me figure out how to write these names down? https://youtube.com/watch?v=H-ErmmDQRFs&t=19m16s
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09:37 < bjonnh> juri_: why would you use a more beefy laser in your printer?
09:40 < juri_> 3d printer. ;)
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09:43 < bjonnh> oh
09:43 < bjonnh> didn't know people were using lasers for their 3d printers (except for metal ones)
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09:45 < juri_> it's also a lasercutter... now.
09:46 < bjonnh> great
09:46 < bjonnh> what do you cut with 3w?
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09:51 < juri_> right now, self adhesive floor tiles.
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10:02 < bjonnh> oh pretty good already
10:02 < bjonnh> they are in pvc no?
10:07 < juri_> I don't quite know what they're made of. I'm just trying to figgure out how to cut them.
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10:25 < FourFire> careful with the toxicity of what you're cutting
10:25 < FourFire> the smoke, I mean.
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10:30 < bjonnh> I would definitively put a vent outside with a lasercutter
10:30 < bjonnh> whatever you are cutting
10:30 < bjonnh> and I would also use one for a 3d printer
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11:36 < juri_> http://www.ludism.org/mentat
11:41 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@jinglan/how-to-explain-zero-knowledge-protocols-to-your-average-child-eb49feb4a41d#.nimuqrygu
11:43 < bjonnh> and now the smoothie is warm
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12:25 < kanzure> re: cryoselection, you should also select for significantly cryo-maladaptive changes because then you could filter those out by sequencing from future rounds
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12:36 < kanzure> inkjet synthesizer should be named dnaminator
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13:37 < kanzure> "Flooding the East African Rift Valley would create an internal sea. It would also be much cheaper to carry out -- in terms of the actual flooding [than australia]."
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16:02 < kanzure> also, for cryonics-adaptation, i suppose basic limb regeneration stuff would be helpful. and other healing stuff. still don't think that, besides flushing out cryotoxins, that organs and bodies are going to survive much.
16:02 < kanzure> er, survive for long. because systemic damage.
16:07 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/news/digital-chimp-trove-preserves-brains-of-retired-apes-1.18865
16:07 < kanzure> "Austin the chimp was particularly adept with a computer, and scientists have been scanning the animal's genome for clues to its unusual cognitive abilities."
16:08 < kanzure> is that how they are storing chimp brain matter? http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.31842.1448392627!/image/IMG_0254web.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/IMG_0254web.jpg
16:09 < kanzure> "the Foundation for Biomedical Research in Washington DC, which advocates for animal research" cool there's an animal research advocacy group
16:11 < kanzure> publications from that chimp brain preservation group https://cashp.columbian.gwu.edu/laboratory-evolutionary-neuroscience-publications
16:12 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Neuronal%20morphology%20of%20the%20visual%20and%20motor%20cortices%20in%20the%20giraffe%20(Giraffa%20cameloparadalis).pdf
16:13 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Evolutionary%20divergence%20of%20gene%20and%20protein%20expression%20in%20the%20brains%20of%20humans%20and%20chimpanzees.pdf
16:14 < kanzure> cool figures on page 7
16:17 < kanzure> "Analysis of synaptic gene expression in the neocortex of primates reveals evolutionary changes in glutamatergic neurotransmission" http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/6/1596.short
16:18 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Organization%20and%20evolution%20of%20brain%20lipidome%20revealed%20by%20large-scale%20analysis%20of%20human,%20chimpanzee,%20macaque,%20and%20mouse%20tissues.pdf
16:20 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Energetic%20costs%20and%20evolutionary%20implications%20of%20human%20brain%20development.pdf
16:20 < kanzure> "the metabolic requirements of growing human brain [were] unknown" :-/
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16:23 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Modular%20structure%20facilitates%20mosaic%20evolution%20of%20the%20brain%20in%20chimpanzees%20and%20humans.pdf
16:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Exceptional%20evolutionary%20divergence%20of%20human%20muscle%20and%20brain%20metabolomes%20parallels%20human%20cognitive%20and%20physical%20uniqueness.pdf
16:26 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Comparative%20neuronal%20morphology%20of%20the%20cerebellar%20cortex%20in%20afrotherians,%20carnivores,%20cetartiodactyls,%20and%20primates.pdf
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16:28 < kanzure> "NSF workshop report: discovering general principles of nervous system organization by comparing brain maps across species" <-- would be nice to find this
16:29 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Characterization%20of%20human%20cortical%20gene%20expression%20in%20relation%20to%20glucose%20utilization.pdf
16:30 < kanzure> hmm i think we have previously seen some of these, like "New insights in the classification and nomenclature of cortical GABAergic interneurons"
16:33 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Dynamic%20gene%20expression%20in%20the%20human%20cerebral%20cortex%20distinguishes%20children%20from%20adults.pdf
16:33 < kanzure> oops that is wrong. hrm.
16:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Curious%20monkeys%20have%20increased%20gray%20matter%20density%20in%20the%20precuneus.pdf
16:35 < kanzure> fixed.
16:35 < kanzure> ( because of http://www.amyboddy.com/pubs/ )
17:05 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=04b60f4d apoelstra: Change for typos/clarity >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/security-assumptions/
17:06 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=3a8149c5 apoelstra: Change "verification perf" to "signing perf" (I misspoke in the talk, fixing it) >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/security-assumptions/
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17:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=12107eff Bryan Bishop: segregated witness >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
17:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=6c5af240 Bryan Bishop: more qa >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
17:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1f80d82e Bryan Bishop: overview of bips for lightning network >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/overview-of-bips-necessary-for-lightning/
17:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=73f34d44 Bryan Bishop: Merge remote-tracking branch 'master' >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
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18:17 < atomical_> hi
18:18 < atomical_> hi kanzure
18:18 < gaydude> hi :)
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18:29 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=aecdba06 Bryan Bishop: more lightning >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/network-topologies-and-their-scalability-implications-on-decentralized-off-chain-networks/
18:37 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ad609f47 Bryan Bishop: some segwit commentary >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
18:38 < atomical_> hi gaydude
18:40 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=a38b45b3 Bryan Bishop: some abbreviations about segwit >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
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19:13 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8c160254 Bryan Bishop: dag chain stuff with bsmperson >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/braiding-the-blockchain/
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20:12 < kanzure> 20:12 < xiangfu> kanzure: wechat is better. QQ is kind of outdate in China.
20:12 < kanzure> time flies.
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20:18 < gaydude> hi all! ^^
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20:55 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=582445aa Bryan Bishop: jgarzik talk >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/a-bevy-of-block-size-proposals-bip100-bip102-and-more/
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21:30 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4b031d2d Bryan Bishop: maaku talk >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/a-flexible-limit-trading-subsidy-for-larger-blocks/
21:34 < docl> In optical tweezers, a continuous evanescent field can be created when light is propagating through an optical waveguide (multiple total internal reflection). The resulting evanescent field has a directional sense and will propel microparticles along its propagating path. This work was first pioneered by S. Kawata and T. Sugiura, in 1992, who showed that the field can be coupled to the particles in pro
21:34 < docl> ximity on the order of 100 nanometers.[35]
21:34 < docl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_tweezers
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21:49 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f39a8694 Bryan Bishop: validation cost metric >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/validation-cost-metric/
21:51 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=854b3553 Bryan Bishop: fix formatting in validation cost metric >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/validation-cost-metric/
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22:52 < kanzure> transcripts megadump http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011862.html
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23:12 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=071ae916 Bryan Bishop: add jgarzik slides >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/a-bevy-of-block-size-proposals-bip100-bip102-and-more/
23:13 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=b6d69161 Bryan Bishop: add segregated witness sipa slides >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
23:50 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=56c828eb Bryan Bishop: some more segregated witness links >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/hong-kong/segregated-witness-and-its-impact-on-scalability/
23:53 < kanzure> something about giraffe cortex
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